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One Laptop Per Child.
« on: June 19, 2011, 11:06:06 AM »
One Laptop Per Child.  :)
This project is still alive and doing well.
http://one.laptop.org/

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Re: One Laptop Per Child.
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2011, 11:11:36 AM »
yeah.... and?
I was trying to dereference Null Pointers before it was cool.

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Re: One Laptop Per Child.
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2011, 01:05:02 PM »
yeah.... and?
They want to improve the educational opportunities to children in third world - developing encounters. Here in the rest of the world our kidz  learn to to type with their thumbs and can not master the basic rules of English spelling. So we buy them more expensive toys hoping it will motive them to improve. That is the American Way!

So then, How can the OLPC positivity succeed by lessor children with lessor tools? What? Open their minds? Impossible!
Are you not outraged?   :o

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Of course, anybody who likes what those people are doing could make a donation.
Again, the link is http://one.laptop.org/

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Re: One Laptop Per Child.
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2011, 05:54:12 AM »
I think what BC is getting at is that this is basically the equivalent of announcing that the streets in L.A. are still paved.


I wonder: are those kids still getting in trouble for using their laptops to look up porn?
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Re: One Laptop Per Child.
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2011, 02:02:56 PM »
The project 'One Laptop Per Child.' is not about education in advanced countries.
In many developing countries almost half of the population lives in remote rural areas where basic services are very limited. Including educational resources.

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Re: One Laptop Per Child.
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2011, 05:54:41 PM »
They want to improve the educational opportunities to children in third world - developing encounters.
I hope those "encounters" go well.   :D

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Re: One Laptop Per Child.
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2011, 06:37:19 PM »
I hope those "encounters" go well.   :D
They will, unless somebody tries to teach them English. Or French.

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    Re: One Laptop Per Child.
    « Reply #7 on: August 18, 2011, 06:59:06 AM »
    my 1 year old niece owns a ipad, imagine that! ;D

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    « Reply #8 on: August 18, 2011, 10:41:22 AM »
    my 1 year old niece owns a ipad, imagine that! ;D

    Then her parents have more money than sense, if you are telling the truth, which I doubt.

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    Re: One Laptop Per Child.
    « Reply #9 on: August 18, 2011, 02:29:30 PM »
    The web site link in my first post shows a picture. Look at it carefully. That is not a LA schoolroom. Note even Topeka. That is a real third world classroom and it is not in a major city.

    The mission is to use high tech as a lo-cost way of improving educational experience of teaches and students inn the developing rural area. They  don't have  iPhone. Few have TV. And if they do have TV, maybe one station. And not the native language.

    Those of you that have spent more that a week in the rural area of a developing country understand what I am saying.  These kids are at a disadvantage. Books, maps, crayons, pencils, cardboard have to be bought in the big city. No local Staples in a shaping Mall.

    Once the kids get  these special laptops, they each none  use it to read, write, study, collaborate and explore. Every kid in the classroom gets one. No fooling around. If the kid finds a porn site, it would be what the teacher tole to find.These kids grew up naked most of the time and didn't have underwear until they went to school.  Likely they will find porn sites dull.

    If each laptop can last over three years, it will be more cost-effective that giving them  piles of books, reams of paper and bxs of crayons. Plus it provides Video at a  lower cost than DVDs and projectors and every kid has the best seat. Do the math. It is a great idea.

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    Re: One Laptop Per Child.
    « Reply #10 on: August 18, 2011, 06:27:04 PM »

    The mission is to use high tech as a lo-cost way of improving educational experience of teaches and students inn the developing rural area. They  don't have  iPhone. Few have TV. And if they do have TV, maybe one station. And not the native language.

    Those of you that have spent more that a week in the rural area of a developing country understand what I am saying.  These kids are at a disadvantage. Books, maps, crayons, pencils, cardboard have to be bought in the big city. No local Staples in a shaping Mall.

    Once the kids get  these special laptops, they each none  use it to read, write, study, collaborate and explore. Every kid in the classroom gets one.
    I think the verdict is not in yet on the success of this and, at this point, I am skeptical.  I think computers should not be the primary learning tool for elementary-aged kids.  By the time they reach high school, more computer-based training may well be appropriate and effective, but not for elementary kids.

    No fooling around. If the kid finds a porn site, it would be what the teacher tole to find.These kids grew up naked most of the time and didn't have underwear until they went to school.  Likely they will find porn sites dull.
    Now, those remarks are absurd.  If nudity is more common in poor countries, it's due to poverty and culture.  To associate that with porn is just absurd.  Besides, these kids, at the age portrayed on the website, are too young to have any interest in porn. 

    If each laptop can last over three years, it will be more cost-effective that giving them  piles of books, reams of paper and bxs of crayons. Plus it provides Video at a  lower cost than DVDs and projectors and every kid has the best seat. Do the math. It is a great idea.
    I see a multitude of potential downfalls here.  Lots of dead batteries.  Messed up computers - malware, viruses, and various malfunctions due to kids using devices they have no training to use and probably do not have any significant technical support. 

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    Re: One Laptop Per Child.
    « Reply #11 on: August 18, 2011, 08:31:39 PM »
    In this bit, when I use the tern 'Western', it really means Britain, western Europe and North America. As in 'Western Culture is very popular.'

    I think the verdict is not in yet on the success of this and, at this point, I am skeptical.  I think computers should not be the primary learning tool for elementary-aged kids.  By the time they reach high school, more computer-based training may well be appropriate and effective, but not for elementary kids.
    Your point is well made. Conventional wisdom is to give older kids better tools. But in this case then kids will have material that otherwise would not be available even at a beginners level.

     This not about teaching children in former  colonial countries where the language is English, German,  Dutch, French, Spanish,  Portuguese or any of the major western languages. Little literature is available in the native languages. The translations of  the Western  literature is expensive and clashes with natives concepts. These computers allow the teachers to produce material in a native language quickly and distribute to all the kids. This is very important for younger children.
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    Now, those remarks are absurd.  If nudity is more common in poor countries, it's due to poverty and culture.  To associate that with porn is just absurd.  Besides, these kids, at the age portrayed on the website, are too young to have any interest in porn.

    Yes, I should not have said that.
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    I see a multitude of potential downfalls here.  Lots of dead batteries.  Messed up computers - malware, viruses, and various malfunctions due to kids using devices they have no training to use and probably do not have any significant technical support.
    The laptops can be powered my other energy sources. The have a very light power requirement. These are not really scaled down laptops. They should be called 'smart  slates' because the idea of children writing on an erasable slate is really an old and proven concept for young children. The principal usage is learning to read and writ their own language. And learn to use a keyboard also.

    They are not going to be downloading materials not suitable for the primary classroom. Older children might. The younger children need access to more fundamental things. Yes, it may be a internet type connection, but it really is a WAN limited to sites that have materials for the native languages classroom. The reason for the internet is due to isolation from the major metropolis in such countries. It is not to let little children learn about the whole world before that can read and write their own language.

    To promote the concept, the idea is being presented to  western sponsors in terms that we understand. Internet,  Video,  Wi-Fi. Color display,  Solid sate memory,  WAN and ad-hoc wireless. The little laptops have these features, but the real value is as a teaching instrument every child can use. They are nearly indestructible. NIH -(Not Invented Here)

    BTW; The screen is readable is sunlight. Try that with your laptop or iPad. They are well-designed. Low-cost does not have to be cheap.

    Yes, the project can fail. It will fail if it follows the trail of commercial enterprise. It is not a scheme to make money from the poor or to stratified their society or create political  division.

    It is an honest attempt to help the lessor ones with no selfish gain. But, for many, it is hard to link that concept with modem technology. Computers are to make us aristocrats - Right? :P

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    Re: One Laptop Per Child.
    « Reply #12 on: August 18, 2011, 08:35:21 PM »
    These computers allow the teachers to produce material in a native language quickly and distribute to all the kids.

    Linux is great, but it's support for localization simply sucks. I highly doubt you can get, say, a swahili version of Linux Mint.

    The way I see it, it's just another FSF move spawned by ideology and politics than any actual gainful result. Instead of spending money on laptops they could just as easily donate paper and actual writing materials.

    In fact, the way you talk about it, most of the main advantages of this could be duplicated with an etch-a-sketch.
    I was trying to dereference Null Pointers before it was cool.

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    Re: One Laptop Per Child.
    « Reply #13 on: August 18, 2011, 08:37:53 PM »
    Whatever happened to the One large screen Plasma TV Per Child initiative ? ?
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    Re: One Laptop Per Child.
    « Reply #14 on: August 19, 2011, 01:59:35 PM »
    Upstaged by a smaller, more cost-effective device.
    The Capitalists are crying.   :'(
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