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Mac

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Re: What is the next step in computer security?
« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2005, 02:04:52 PM »
Personally I would say that living on a crime-free planet where none of this is even necessary would be the best alternative.

Raptor

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Re: What is the next step in computer security?
« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2005, 02:53:45 PM »
Linspire costs money?

Mac

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Re: What is the next step in computer security?
« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2005, 02:52:52 AM »
Not if you acquire a copy.  :)

I have Mandrake Linux 10 on three CDRs somewhere, in case of urgent need. Downloaded for free.

You can get KNOPPIX on DVD and on CDR, always handy to have for data recovery too as it will run from the CD/DVD drive without installing it on the hard-drive.

If you have enough RAM you can load it all into RAM.
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GX1_Man

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Re: What is the next step in computer security?
« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2005, 05:24:46 AM »
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Linspire costs money?


The software costs from $0 to $49.95 depending on where you get it. The click and run service is $20 a year for getting all of the updates and programs you want, etc. Some people get offended by this, but I think it's a price for the service you get of easy installation beyond any other linux app. Some purists like to install their own, and this is done through the command line. If you are not GUI centric it's not that tough, depending on the distribution.

For a kick you may want to install DSL (*censored* Small Linux) a 50 meg. O/S on a live CD with a few apps that runs from a CD. It can also be installed to a hard drive but that's another issue. If you have a broadband connection it's fun to check out. (Again with a Live CD NOTHING is written to the hard drive.) THe granddaddy of Live CD's is Knoppix. Pretty cool too.

Again, www.distrowatch.com to sample a flavor or two or a hundred for free.

Raptor

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Re: What is the next step in computer security?
« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2005, 06:58:04 AM »
I'd something that is:

  • As easy to install as Windows XP
  • As functional as Windows XP


And it has to be:

  • Easy to download
  • Free.
  • Up to date when I want it to be.



GX1_Man

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Re: What is the next step in computer security?
« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2005, 07:26:01 AM »
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I'd something that is:

  • As easy to install as Windows XP
  • As functional as Windows XP

And it has to be:

  • Easy to download
  • Free.
  • Up to date when I want it to be.



Linspire loads on a blank hard drive in less than 10 minutes start to finish - 1 reboot and you're running. It has a familiar Windows like interface -which some people like and some don't (because it looks like Windows). It also includes the office suite and most readily needed programs - others can be easily and quickly downloaded.

It's not free (but neither is WIndows!) There is no restrictive license - use it legally on as many computers as you own. Updates to operating system and software are free and can be automatic if you want. There is a minimal charge for this service of $19.95 a year. (There is also a higher tiered service of $49.95 a year that gets you other perks including all new versions of the O/S (unlike Microsoft) and those costs are cheaper than buying one Windows program. Plus you are free of virus/spyware/adware/security, etc. Quite a bargain in my book. My father in law can install and use it and he is NO computer whiz kid.

So the only hurdle is the free issue. What does a new XP cost?

There are free distributions that are almost as easy - Mepis, Xandros, etc.

If you are into gaming, I would set up a dual boot system. Expecting Windows written programs to work on Linux is like expecting them to run on Appple. They don't natiovely, but there are SOME emulators that let you run SOME programs.

Raptor

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Re: What is the next step in computer security?
« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2005, 07:37:24 AM »
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It's not free (but neither is WIndows!)


I can obtain a legal Windows XP license for less than 10 dollars.

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There are free distributions that are almost as easy - Mepis, Xandros, etc.  


I was told Gentoo.org. Any good?

GX1_Man

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Re: What is the next step in computer security?
« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2005, 08:22:01 AM »
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I can obtain a legal Windows XP license for less than 10 dollars.
I was told Gentoo.org. Any good?


Where does one get a legal XP license for 10??

Gentoo is one of the traditionally harder ones to set up. There are three versions, and one of them takes a full compile and can take several days! It is stable and fast once up and running, but I personally never had the patience for that, and a LOT of reading is required.

Do you have a spare drive or partition you can play with?

Raptor

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Re: What is the next step in computer security?
« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2005, 08:26:50 AM »
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Where does one get a legal XP license for 10??


Student discount. I have to place my autograph under each license that I obtain.

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Do you have a spare drive or partition you can play with?


A HP Club 2460 computer.
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GX1_Man

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Re: What is the next step in computer security?
« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2005, 08:30:15 AM »
How many drives and how are they set up? (sorry to be quizzing YOU!)

Raptor

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Re: What is the next step in computer security?
« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2005, 08:34:02 AM »
It's not a computer I use, I parked it somewhere. 6.4GB HDD I believe.

GX1_Man

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Re: What is the next step in computer security?
« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2005, 05:20:12 PM »
And processor, RAM, sound, graphics? I can recommend a distribution based on this info. 6.4 gig is plenty

Raptor

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Re: What is the next step in computer security?
« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2005, 05:30:15 PM »
I found a Knoppix 3.3 CD. It was inside a batch of CD-ROM players I obtained not too long ago.

Can I boot from this CD even with Windows installed? How outdated is it?

GX1_Man

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Re: What is the next step in computer security?
« Reply #28 on: September 24, 2005, 09:10:15 PM »
There have been a afew upgrades since then, but it would b e fine to boot with. I think with that version when it boots you get a prompy that says" boot: "?

You can just press enter, but th emaiun login screen m,ay be in german. if you enter lang=en and press enter you should be good to go.

No, it will not write, or affect your hard drive. Feel free to browse around it. Remember that it will be slower from the CD than a hard drive because it is PACKED and it has to decompress things on the fly from the CD.

I'll be keen to get your impressions.

GX1_Man

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Re: What is the next step in computer security?
« Reply #29 on: September 24, 2005, 09:10:59 PM »
You probably don't do impressions.