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« on: August 29, 2016, 02:49:56 PM »
Hi all, I have been using www.pingtest.net to check my internet connection recently but I am never able to test packet loss. Apparently this requires java to installed on your browser, however all major browsers seem to have dropped java in the last year.

What is going on? Am I missing an alternative?
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Re: Java
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2016, 05:09:27 PM »
No, you're not missing an alternative.  Very few websites use Java nowadays.  So, many computer users don't need it.

If you want to install it, download it from https://java.com/en/download/

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Re: Java
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2016, 07:30:00 PM »
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I have been using www.pingtest.net to check my internet connection recently but I am never able to test packet loss

Why not just ping via IP or URL with the built in PING function of Windows for packet loss detection?

Like if I want to check for packet loss to google I will just
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ping www.google.com -t and CTRL+C when i want it to end to get the results from the persistent pinging.


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Ping statistics for 216.58.217.100:
    Packets: Sent = 35, Received = 35, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 25ms, Maximum = 43ms, Average = 28ms
Control-C
^C
C:\>


With use of traceroute you can even find which hop is having troubles vs assuming the issue is with the server at the other end. I have used this to point out issues with Comcasts backbone and make a phone call to them and surprise them as to how i found the issue once I get a hold of someone who has a clue as to what i am talking about. They had a backbone that was sketchy and nasty latency but with multiple backbones it was a roulette as to when you would hit the problem. Once traceroute found the troubled backbone I had its IP to hit it with pings and report it as a problem to them.


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C:\>tracert www.google.com

Tracing route to www.google.com [216.58.217.100]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  BlackBox [192.168.150.1]
  2     9 ms    13 ms     9 ms  96.120.70.1
  3    10 ms     8 ms     8 ms  68.87.181.217
  4    10 ms     9 ms     9 ms  te-5-1-ur02.woburn.ma.boston.comcast.net [68.87.
145.182]
  5     9 ms    11 ms    11 ms  162.151.113.98
  6    20 ms    26 ms    19 ms  be-70-ar01.needham.ma.boston.comcast.net [68.85.
69.177]
  7    22 ms    25 ms    25 ms  be-7015-cr02.newyork.ny.ibone.comcast.net [68.86
.90.217]
  8    22 ms    20 ms    24 ms  hu-0-11-0-5-pe01.111eighthave.ny.ibone.comcast.n
et [68.86.87.58]
  9    52 ms    53 ms    52 ms  as27589-2.miami.fl.ibone.comcast.net [75.149.228
.186]
 10    45 ms    46 ms    49 ms  216.239.62.125
 11    24 ms    22 ms    21 ms  72.14.237.134
 12    29 ms    31 ms    29 ms  216.58.215.53
 13    28 ms    27 ms    29 ms  209.85.143.113
 14    41 ms    42 ms    31 ms  209.85.143.255
 15    26 ms    27 ms    28 ms  iad23s42-in-f4.1e100.net [216.58.217.100]

Trace complete.

C:\>

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Re: Java
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2016, 10:26:02 AM »
Well that works much better. I didn't realise that the in built ping test gave me that much information (have used it in the past for testing communication between two computers). It also didn't occur to me to use random websites as receptacles to test my own internet.

Thanks Dave

No, you're not missing an alternative.  Very few websites use Java nowadays.  So, many computer users don't need it.

If you want to install it, download it from https://java.com/en/download/

Slightly bad wording on my part, browsers have dropped the java plugin support. I have java but non of my browsers will talk to it :(
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Re: Java
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2016, 09:01:01 PM »
Slightly bad wording on my part, browsers have dropped the java plugin support. I have java but non of my browsers will talk to it :(
Can you cite references to support that statement?  It is contradictory to http://www.digitalcitizen.life/how-enable-java-all-major-web-browsers and other references. 

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    Re: Java
    « Reply #5 on: September 04, 2016, 03:33:26 PM »
    Perhaps the OP has a 64 bit browser.

    I only searched for FF and apparently only the 32 bit version supports the Java plugin so you need to install the 32 bit version.
    Source: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1105633