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Friend of mine contacted me looking for better security coverage to prevent virus's and ransomeware as seen below. Curious what suggestions you guys might have for him.

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Looking to improve security on my on-line devices (desktop at home, office laptop, and smartphone).  I’m thinking of something a little more tailored than just buying McAfee or Norton coverage every year.  It seems like it’s just a matter of time before I get hacked for ransom or something like that.

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What OS is he/she running?
Windows 8 and Windows 10 dual boot with two SSD's

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He has Windows 7 64-bit Home and Pro versions on the desktop and Laptop ... Smartphone is Android but not sure which version of Android.

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He should install one of these free AV's. He should also make sure his Windows Defender is enabled if he uses any other AV except MSE. If you decide to use MicroSoft Security Essentials it will automatically turn off WD. You can also use either the free or the paid version of MBAM. The free version will only be full-time for a test period. After that, he will have to initiate the scans himself.

Remember to only install one antivirus!
 
1) Avast! Home Edition
2) AVG Free Edition
3) Avira AntiVir Personal
4) MicroSoft Security Essentials   All versions and all languages.
5) Comodo Antivirus (Uncheck during installation "Install Comodo SafeSurf..", Make Comodo my default search provider" and "Make Comodo Search my homepage" if you choose this one)

It is strongly recommended that you run only one antivirus program at a time. Having more than one antivirus program active in memory uses additional resources and can result in program conflicts and false virus alerts. If you choose to install more than one antivirus program on your computer, then only one of them should be active in memory at a time.
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Double Click mbam-setup.exe to install the application.
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Hi Dave and thanks for the help here

With his statement of:
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I’m thinking of something a little more tailored than just buying McAfee or Norton coverage every year.

I was thinking he was going to have to go with like a Corporate Edition of NAV to have a stronger antivirus product and pay out a few hundred dollars to have the 2 computers as protected as possible. Its cool that the free ones are strong.

Myself I am very low risk for virus's and have been using AVG for a few years now without any problems. But he gets e-mail with attachments regularly and so he is at a greater risk for something to try to slip on in.

A while back i found a website where they did tests with antivirus's and they showed a matrix of which antivirus's scored better than others under testing with systems that were installed with AV's and which ones fell prey to certain virus's etc. Thing is that that information is old now and unable to find a newer version of it showing which one is best currently. The information was so old that they displayed Windows Defender as being weak. I know that Windows Defender has gotten better since. Cant seem to find that exact comparison but found this one but its an editors rating and anyone can be an editor and say they like one better than another but which one is the best, but testing to try to infect systems with antivirus's and scoring them is better assuming its not altered to be biased to promoting a product etc: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2372364,00.asp

Also to mention, his business runs on these 3 devices and so its critical that he is as protected as possible. I give free advice to him on IT, but making sure he has the best protection is not my specialty. Ive educated him on spoofing and all that so he is better than most users out there, but he just wants to be as safe as possible and I think he feels that McAfee or Norton Antivirus off the shelf home computer editions might be weaker in some way vs something that might be for corporate small business use. So Real-Time protection is a must then whichever one is the strongest at prevention.

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Myself I am very low risk for virus's and have been using AVG for a few years now without any problems. But he gets e-mail with attachments regularly and so he is at a greater risk for something to try to slip on in.
He should use a mail prescreener such as MailWasher. That way he won't have to worry about attachments.Almost every day this week I receive e-mails telling me about a new invoice that I need to open but I know I don't do business with them so I just bounce it before it comes down off the server.
I use free AV's on all my computers and I go to some very dangerous sites with never any problems. It has been my experiences that lately, there are very few virus floating around. The secret is to stay away from opening attachments unless you know that they are safe to open. If a friend sent me an attachment the first thing I would do is ask him/her if they indeed sent it to me. On another note, I've cleaned many computers that have had paid for AV's so that in itself is no guarantee to stay safe. I would however recommend the paid version of MBAM which is not all that expensive.
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One of the problems, IMO, with making recommendations in this scenario, is that it's hard to evaluate precisely what would provide benefit to a specific user without knowing a lot of details about their usage; generalizations lead to generalized advice and while very valuable, if you're looking to get some security solution specific to your friends usage, that's a tall order.

I'm of the mind that regardless of the security solutions/software in use, nothing will protect a user from themselves. For example, if a user is easily convinced to turn off their AV then it won't matter; if they will  open E-mail attachments, run executables they downloaded, etc. while following advice that it is a false positive and to disable the software, then what good is the software? Similarly, no amount of AV protection is going to protect somebody from falling victim to say the Microsoft Scam E-mails and stuff. That takes a sort of computer security literacy which has to be learned, and cannot be gained by merely installing security software.

Most consumer-aimed malware, I expect, is largely distributed by exploiting the weakest link- these aren't usually security exploits, but rather just giving the user enough rope to "hang themselves" with. Being security conscious means being aware of when somebody is having you tie a noose; an AV program is a tool that is intended to effectively warn you when somebody has you tying a noose. That can be useful, but it becomes less useful if a user can be convinced that they are lying. (The aforementioned "disable your AV before running this as it's a false positive" stuff)
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Thank You for the info... also going to check out MailWasher never heard of it before. I use Thunderbird and it looks like it will work with that.

The good thing is that he is knowledgeable and in the 8 years I have known him he hasnt gotten into any virus troubles. Just unfortunate hardware failures from aged computers and a lightning strike that hit a brand new Toshiba Tecra and burned out the onboard ethernet in which the solution for him was to add a USB Ethernet adapter vs replacing the main board.

Going to share this info with him. Many Thanks!

Also for SmartPhone should I direct him to the free McAfee for Android or?

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Sorry, I'm not up-to-date with Smartphones and such.
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Ok no problem. Thank You for all the info.

I use mcAfee on my android phone so I will suggest that for him.

Its free and has pretty good protection and a lock on it that keeps malware and unauthorized users from being able to factory reset it too as I experienced the hard way on my LG16C phone when the keypad software got corrupt. I ended up having to use a voice to text app that I had on the phone to enter the pin number specific for McAfee in order to factory reset my phone and then once I did that i installed a different keypad app so that if the one crashes again that came with phone from factory i can navigate and select to make the other active.