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Family Radio Service.
« on: February 14, 2017, 07:47:07 PM »
The Family Radio Service has been available for a number of years now. But why would you need it? Well, in case of some kind of freak thing, you may find yourself separated from family members and your cell   phone might not work.

The cost of a pair of these hand held radios is so low tgaht you oughtto have a pair in your panic bag.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Radio_Service
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FRS radios use narrow-band frequency modulation (NBFM) with a maximum deviation of 2.5 kilohertz. The channels are spaced at 25 kilohertz intervals, with all frequencies ending in 2.5 or 7.5 kHz.

FRS radios are limited to 500 milliwatts according to U.S. Federal Communications Commission (FCC) regulations. Channels 1 to 7 are shared with low-power interstitial channels of General Mobile Radio Service (GMRS). A license is required for those channels if the power output is over FRS limits.[1]

The piratical range is a few miles under average conditions. But that could be enough to keep in touch in some scenarios.


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« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2017, 11:06:55 PM »
Yes they are quite useful indeed!!!!!!!

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Re: Family Radio Service.
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2017, 11:56:25 PM »
When you least expect it, cell phones towers can be shut down for maintenances or other reasons. Power outages in Winter can turn off solar powered systems.
Here is a recent article.
http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/how-to-survive-an-ice-storm-po/20680035

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Re: Family Radio Service.
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2017, 05:55:52 AM »
I have a set of radios I got for hunting and hiking. They were $50 and work well. They are rated for 2 miles but in the mountain area where I live its more like half a mile to 1 mile with your location key to broadcasting distance where elevation helps due to umbrella of radio waves. Everyone under the umbrella hears you fine, and if their umbrella radio field range under you overlaps your location you can then hear back from them. Only issue is that channels are limited and sometimes you get cross talk with other people on the channel.

Never thought of using them in an emergency situation to communicate if cell towers are down. With the weakening of the earths magnetic field and solar flares. The biggest concern would be if a flare hit the earth and spiked power lines and electronic equipment with damage like an EMP burning out chips and all. I was reading up on people taking ammo cans and using them as faraday cage containers to protect electronic devices from this kind of damage since the metal box acts as a shield. The movie goldeneye 007 they went to extremes with EMP created by a nuclear device in space to channel the EMP burst to earth. Lightning bolts emanating from everything metal and electronic. Fact is that its not that dramatic. You wouldnt know that the damage happened until you go to use whatever it is and it doesnt work anymore. As funny as it may sound, older electronics are better protected against EMP than newer. Such as if you had an old Tube Ham Radio and a battery to power it, it would probably survive a EMP since there is no transistors its all tube valves etc. While radios like these listed could be bricked with the traces in the circuit acting like a secondary coil to pulse over voltage chips and transistors and very small surface mount components that are sensitive to static or quick high voltage spike from EMP.  Years ago I had a Norelco Short Wave Radio and that thing worked really well. Sadly my wife thought it was an old piece of junk and tossed it on me. But had there been an emergency, that tube type unit would probably survive a solar wind direct hit to earth or EMP.

But ... scale of circuit length also comes into play as well. The more length of wire to act like a secondary or have a potential unequal to surroundings/atmosphere the damage is amplified such as burning out a telegraph system.
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Prior to the July 2012 storm, the largest recorded storm was the Carrington Event of 1859. A massive solar flare and CME struck Earth, destroying much of the Victorian telegraph network in Europe and North America.

https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/186805-the-solar-storm-of-2012-that-almost-sent-us-back-to-a-post-apocalyptic-stone-age

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Re: Family Radio Service.
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2017, 08:17:09 AM »
I've owned several different pairs of FRS radios and tried to use them when we were RVing to keep in touch when we split up at a campsite and such.  I found them to be nearly useless because the range was never more than about 1/4 mile in the areas we camped in so stopped using  them.