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sinnerz

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    Kernel Power System Failures
    « on: June 28, 2017, 10:36:07 PM »
    Ive been trying to diagnose this problem for a while.

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    i7 6700k
    GTX 1080
    16 BG Ram
    850W PSU

    Suddenly will shut off, not a blue screen, just shuts off. I think this is a Blue Screen Viwer log of a crash.

    Any suggestions welcome

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    Re: Kernel Power System Failures
    « Reply #1 on: June 29, 2017, 12:02:08 AM »
    First thing is an very extensive memory test.
    The more memory yoiu have, the greater danger of a unpreditable crash. So yu need to test the memoryin small units, like one stick at a time, if yuou can.

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      Re: Kernel Power System Failures
      « Reply #2 on: June 29, 2017, 12:56:56 AM »
      Ive done memtest before and it seemed fine. Could i replace the ram completely? Ive got 2 other sticks sitting around

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      Re: Kernel Power System Failures
      « Reply #3 on: June 29, 2017, 05:13:13 AM »
      Download BlueScreenView:
      http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/blue_screen_view.html
      unzip downloaded file and double click on BlueScreenView.exe to run the program.
      when scanning is done, go to EDIT - Select All
      Go to FILE - SAVE Selected Items, and save the report as BSOD.txt
      Open BSOD.txt in Notepad, copy all of the content, and paste it into your next reply

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      Re: Kernel Power System Failures
      « Reply #4 on: June 29, 2017, 10:30:57 AM »
      If your memory checks out, and temperatures check out ok, then i'd swap out the power supply next. I had a system failing just like this and it was a power supply that was cutting out on me. Voltages looked ok on it too, but the Rosewill Bronze 80 500 watt power supply had some sort of issue. My system is powered through a battery backup also and so I know that it wasnt a dip in my power to computer which can also cause this issue. Problem has been gone almost a year now and I was getting this problem where system would be found off and windows log complains about kernel power system failure for about a year before that and I kept running system thinking it was a fluke, but it started happening more frequently and so I had to then troubleshoot and fix it.

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      Re: Kernel Power System Failures
      « Reply #5 on: June 29, 2017, 07:03:05 PM »
      "it seems fine" sends a red flag....
      How long did you run MemTest and what results were there ? ?
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        Re: Kernel Power System Failures
        « Reply #6 on: July 01, 2017, 08:59:03 AM »
        In regards to Blue Screen View, it doesnt appear to be getting any reports/logs when it crashes. Its just empty still.

        Ive run the Windows Memory Diagnostic test 3 times and seen the No errors found each time

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        Re: Kernel Power System Failures
        « Reply #7 on: July 01, 2017, 01:03:34 PM »
        At some point you can feel free to do as I asked in my previous post. I'm not sure why you were told to check the ram before we know what the nature of the error is.

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        Re: Kernel Power System Failures
        « Reply #8 on: July 01, 2017, 06:59:07 PM »
        Windows Memory Diagnostic is not what you said you ran...DLoad and run MemTest...let it run at least an hour.
        Any errors at all = bad RAM.
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        Re: Kernel Power System Failures
        « Reply #9 on: July 01, 2017, 07:02:21 PM »
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        Ive done memtest before and it seemed fine.
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          Re: Kernel Power System Failures
          « Reply #10 on: July 01, 2017, 08:01:03 PM »
          Will do @Patio
          @Allan in regards to Blue Screen Viewer i would do that, but each time it crashes, no log reports are showing up to copy and past

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            Re: Kernel Power System Failures
            « Reply #11 on: July 01, 2017, 10:03:08 PM »
            This is the only one that shows up in Blue Screen View, it was from another problem the other day when trying to fix the Kerenel problem. It doesnt appear to give me any reports on the Kerenel crashes


            ==================================================
            Dump File         : 062917-4234-01.dmp
            Crash Time        : 29/06/2017 1:02:32 PM
            Bug Check String  : DRIVER_VERIFIER_IOMANAGER_VIOLATION
            Bug Check Code    : 0x000000c9
            Parameter 1       : 00000000`00000224
            Parameter 2       : fffff804`ee921984
            Parameter 3       : fffffd82`f2470ea0
            Parameter 4       : ffffffff`c000000d
            Caused By Driver  : avgMonFlt.sys
            Caused By Address : avgMonFlt.sys+1984
            File Description  :
            Product Name      :
            Company           :
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            Processor         : x64
            Crash Address     : ntoskrnl.exe+14ece0
            Stack Address 1   :
            Stack Address 2   :
            Stack Address 3   :
            Computer Name     :
            Full Path         : C:\WINDOWS\Minidump\062917-4234-01.dmp
            Processors Count  : 8
            Major Version     : 15
            Minor Version     : 14393
            Dump File Size    : 277,405
            Dump File Time    : 29/06/2017 1:08:42 PM
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            Re: Kernel Power System Failures
            « Reply #12 on: July 02, 2017, 12:27:55 AM »
            The Kernel-Power Event logs are written at startup when Windows detects it wasn't shut down properly. If the problem was a result of a Crash (BSOD), then BlueScreenView would display it, and there would be appropriate event log entries for that as well. Doesn't seem like that is the case, so I wouldn't expect that the issue is related to any software configuration. It's going to very likely be a hardware issue. I'm going to second Dave's advice here and point my finger at either the power supply, or your power situation. For all we know somebody has been using a microwave or Electric kettle or something similar on the same circuit occasionally and causing a temporary brownout which causes the system to lose power. :P
            I was trying to dereference Null Pointers before it was cool.

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              Re: Kernel Power System Failures
              « Reply #13 on: July 04, 2017, 04:53:21 AM »
              Just ran memtest86 for 4 hours and 40 mins, 4 passes, all 100% good, no errors detected. Any suggestions? Could it be my GPU?

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              Re: Kernel Power System Failures
              « Reply #14 on: July 04, 2017, 04:54:56 AM »
              Completely uninstall AVG and replace it with any other anti virus app. Reboot. Let's see what happens.