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Why you must stop using lithium ion batteries
« on: June 19, 2018, 11:24:14 AM »
Not a question. This is a statement.
Why we must stop using lithium ion batteries.

Don't you already know?
They are not safe.
They are not reliable.
They are expensive.
If it kills you, the damage is permanent.

Whenever there's media news about these time-bombs, there is so much fluff about how they are now better and we need them.
I don't think so.  >:(

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Re: Why you must stop using lithium ion batteries
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2018, 12:41:33 PM »
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If it kills you, the damage is permanent.

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Re: Why you must stop using lithium ion batteries
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2018, 01:02:11 PM »
To take some liberties on Churchill, "Lithium batteries are perhaps the worst form of rechargeable battery we've come up with. Except for all the others we have tried."

The issues that result in headlines are due to manufacturing defects or extenuating circumstances; Poor manufacturing of any battery is going to result in complications. NiCad batteries for example will explode just like Li-Ion batteries- even more destructively, in some cases - if overcharged.

Fact of the matter is that the "Nightly news" works by reporting grim stories and bad things, with maybe a 5 minute human interest story as a "positive". The top story isn't going to be "Lithium Ion Battery doesn't explode, causes no injuries" or "black man pulled over by police is let off with a warning for his excess speed" even though both occur with far more frequency than the events than are actually reported, which is WHY those events are worth reporting. Don't take events being reported as those events being established as "normal" because if they were normal, they wouldn't be reported on.

In the 90's there were similar doomsday headlines about the Apple Powerbook batteries- which were NiCad's- when there were a few reports of them exploding.

As far as causing death, the only deaths that could be said to in any way be caused by Lithium Ion batteries are cases where say somebody leaves a laptop under blankets or on a couch with poor ventilation and it overheats and the battery catches fire and burns down the house. Those are unfortunate mistakes made by victims and aren't an inherent "flaw" with Lithium Ion or Lithium Polymer batteries; batteries in general all have their own risk of fire or other damage. It's like getting sensational about Hilroy paper because if you leave clusters of it near an open flame, it can start a fire, and that we must stop using paper.
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Re: Why you must stop using lithium ion batteries
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2018, 02:07:35 PM »
Lighters cause fires....Film at Eleven.
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Re: Why you must stop using lithium ion batteries
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2018, 02:26:05 PM »
Lighters cause fires....Film at Eleven.

And tune in tomorrow morning when we speak to a papercut survivor and hear their harrowing tale.
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Re: Why you must stop using lithium ion batteries
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2018, 06:25:43 PM »
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Re: Why you must stop using lithium ion batteries
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2018, 10:14:12 PM »
I'll put my hand up and say "I love them".and for all the same reasons Geek gave; they are cheap, safe and reliable plus, no memory effect, short charge time, long usage time.yes - drive a metal spike through one and watch it catch fire, yes - they are bad for landfills.

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    Re: Why you must stop using lithium ion batteries
    « Reply #7 on: June 26, 2018, 04:28:27 AM »
    If you do not know how to use the pen - you'll choke on it. If you do not know how to drink water, you'll choke on it. If you do not know how to swim, you will drown. This I wanted to say do not know how to use do not take) ;)

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    Re: Why you must stop using lithium ion batteries
    « Reply #8 on: June 26, 2018, 10:22:57 AM »
    How does anyone choke on a pen? And who, outside of an institution, does not know how to drink water?

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    Re: Why you must stop using lithium ion batteries
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    Re: Why you must stop using lithium ion batteries
    « Reply #11 on: October 03, 2018, 08:11:37 AM »
    Lithium ion battery might be the reason behind the note 7 explosions. Most of the phone now a days have Li-po batteries. Are they safe or it is just a gimmick