Email Accounts, the REAL test

[Zylstra]

The major problem I have with the Thunderbird Extension for Hotmail is that it does not organize into HTTP folders, which causes a major problem for me, since I use my computer in various locations, and I archive everything on the server
I just dont like only having a "Inbox" connected to the server, I like having all my other folders

(Unless I just got a goofy installation and it will retrive the individual folders)

Sounds like you need portable Thunderbird and Firefox...

Here Ya Go...

I have used both of those, with an actual installation and on a U3 device, and a regular portable app.
I was not overly impressed with Thunderbird, but if I was using a POP3 server, it would be great.

FireFox is something I use every day without a problem

WillyW:
I dont use the web interface, its not a favorite of mine. There is a protocol similar to IMAP and POP3 called an HTTP Email protocol.
It is able to manage your folders on the web server without any problems.
You can remotely create folders, delete them, and ultimately, read the individual emails.
When you read an email, it marks the servers email status to read. When you move an email, it moves it on the server.

This works great for when you have many folders. I use various computers, so this is something I have to have.

[Zylstra]

A spam update:

No new spam for the Yahoo or Gmail accounts
One new spam email for Hotmail.

All emails have been filtered appropriately so far

Total count:
Yahoo 2
Hotmail 1
Gmail

Since Hotmail only keeps junk for a week, and Gmail and Yahoo keep it for 30 days, I have decided to change the way the count works. All junk email is moved into a separate folder

[Zylstra]

Lastest results from Today:

Still no spam in the Gmail account
No new spam in the Hotmail account
4 New junk emails for the Yahoo account

Totals:
Gmail - 0
Yahoo - 5
Hotmail -1

[Zylstra]

No new spam in the Hotmail account
No new spam in the Gmail account ("Hooray, no spam here!")
5 new spam email in the Yahoo account

Totals:
Gmail - 0
Yahoo - 10
Hotmail -1

Looks like Gmail is holding up, and Hotmail is next in the list.
Yahoo is just killing itself.

Which makes me wonder:
Why is it that the Hotmail and Gmail accounts are showing greatly lesser numbers then Yahoo?
(I really am wondering if the address was sold...)

[soybean]

Exactly what are you calling spam?  I don't use my Yahoo mail account; I have it merely because I installed Yahoo Messenger for the PC-to-phone feature.  But, I've had the Yahoo Mail account for about 6 months now and the only mail I've received has been a half dozen or so messages from Yahoo itself.  Is that what you're calling spam?

What usage have you made of the three accounts in your test?  In other words, have you actually used them to send mail to friends or what?

The way I see it, no one besides Yahoo and me knows that this account exists, even after 6 months.

[WillyW]

What usage have you made of the three accounts in your test?  In other words, have you actually used them to send mail to friends or what?

I thought he was testing web crawling harvesters.    That's how I interpreted the first post in this thread.

The way I see it, no one besides Yahoo and me knows that this account exists, even after 6 months.

I'm like you.   I have a Yahoo email account that I've only used a couple times,  and that was just to send  test email to myself.
It gets zero spam.

[Zylstra]

WillyW is correct

These are not used for personal email

Junk is considered anything delivered to the boxes that is containing advertisements or trying to sell something, or scams

Screenshot of the Spam
[img=http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/6589/spamtc8.th.png]

[soybean]

OK, so this is the result of posting the email addresses in your original post.  Is that right?  And, the "web crawling harvesters" have resulted in more spam going to the Yahoo account than the other two.  Right? 

Actually, the web crawling harvesters may be causing about the same volume of spam to the other two, shall we say, behind the scenes, but it does not appear in them because of their filtering or blocking mechanism.  Do you agree?  And, that's exactly your point.  Less spam has appeared in the  Gmail and Hotmail accounts. 

I just looked again at Yahoo Mail's options and found a Spam Filter feature where the user can set certain preferences regarding spam control.  I wonder whether using certain settings there would result in Yahoo also receiving little or no spam in the Inbox.  I'd bet it would. 

Here's a screen print of the Yahoo Mail spam control options:
http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/farmpond/forums/?action=view&current=Yahoo2.jpg

[Zylstra]

Ah, but what if I was really using these accounts and I didn't want to risk loosing my friends emails to the SPAM filters?

Hotmail delivers all SPAM to the SPAM folder.
Gmail does not seem to have much of a configuration for its SPAM, so I cant say as to what it does to deal with it.

I once used the "Delete on receive" option, but really, when it comes down to it, a lot of stuff can get deleted by accident that way. (Forum registrations especially, and other web services)

[soybean]

And, Yahoo can send them to the Bulk folder.  So, I see no significant difference between Hotmail and Yahoo.  In both cases, spam can be directed to a special folder.

[Zylstra]

And, Yahoo can send them to the Bulk folder.  So, I see no significant difference between Hotmail and Yahoo.  In both cases, spam can be directed to a special folder.

But that does not explain why Yahoo has more than Hotmail.
They both direct all junk to the SPAM folder

[soybean]

They both direct all junk to the SPAM folder

On the link to an image I posted in my previous post, it specifically says Yahoo directs the spam to the "Bulk" folder.  There is no "Spam" folder. 

[Zylstra]

They both direct all junk to the SPAM folder

On the link to an image I posted in my previous post, it specifically says Yahoo directs the spam to the "Bulk" folder.  There is no "Spam" folder. 

Since Yahoo is moving on to a newer version (the BETA version right now...) they have renamed "Bulk" to "SPAM"
Probably to keep up with new users who don't understand the difference... even if there isn't one 

[Zylstra]

One new spam message in the Hotmail account
No new spam in the Gmail account ("Hooray, no spam here!")
10 new spam email in the Yahoo account

Totals:
Gmail - 0
Yahoo - 20
Hotmail -2

Looks like Gmail is holding up, and Hotmail is next in the list.
Yahoo is just killing itself.

Which makes me wonder:
Why is it that the Hotmail and Gmail accounts are showing greatly lesser numbers then Yahoo?
(I really am wondering if the address was sold...)

[WillyW]

...
Which makes me wonder:
Why is it that the Hotmail and Gmail accounts are showing greatly lesser numbers then Yahoo?
(I really am wondering if the address was sold...)

Just to be sure:
The email addresses were not used for anything else, correct?  ... just displayed here in this thread?   and only here?



This is very interesting.     
   
Wow... can you just imagine....  what would happen if word got out that Yahoo was selling email addresses?       That's the first reason that comes to mind to dispell your theory.      Not saying that your theory is not possible...  just looking at the other side.

Here's another idea to kick around -   supposing that some sort of email harvesting software found this thread and those email addresses,   is it possible that yahoo email addresses are more attractive "bait",  and noted-
whereas the others are not?