LAN line showing up on modem with one computer, but not the other?

[Anythingwill]

Hello,
Ok, So my one computer is doing something wierd when i try to set up the internet. On my moden the LAN Line isn't lighting up, so when i try to set it up it tells me that it's encoutered an error. What's especially odd about it is that when i do the same procedure with any other computer it lights up and works fine. I don't know very much about networking at all, so this might be really easy, it may not.
Any ideas?

[Comp Guy]

Does that computer have the same OS as the other ones? Remember, too much info is better than not enough!

[Anythingwill]

I just don't know what all to post for a networking problem, they're all the same OS though. The one that's not working was installed with the same CD used on my main even

[Lerninmore]

no light could be a bad cable, bad port on the router or bad nic card in the pc. What does device manager show for your nic card?

[viking]

Hello,
Ok, So my one computer is doing something wierd when i try to set up the internet. On my moden the LAN Line isn't lighting up, so when i try to set it up it tells me that it's encoutered an error. What's especially odd about it is that when i do the same procedure with any other computer it lights up and works fine. I don't know very much about networking at all, so this might be really easy, it may not.
Any ideas?

The other computers, connected through the same cable, to the same port on router?
As Lerninmore said, it could be a fault in one of several places: bad port on router, bad nic in pc.

Show us here what is the result from the command (you have to type it in command prompt):
ipconfig /all >c:\outipcfg.txt

(after you launch the command, copy the content of c:\outipcfg.txt here)

[Anythingwill]

Well i'll work on trying a different cable, i've don't have any extras so i have to go through the process of taking one already in use. Trying to make the cords look neat really makes it difficult to switch them.
I also thought about a bad router, i've had some problems with it before. So, when i tried to install the internet i hooked my computer directly to the modem, didn't go through the router, pulled the power on the modem for 30 secs and tried to install. Right now i do have it hooked up to the router though, since it didn't install.
In device manager the nic card it just says it's working properly under status,
Here's that txt doc from command prompt:


Windows IP Configuration



        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : eric-dd2012ef84

        Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :

        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown

        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes

        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No



Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:



        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :

        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce MCP Networking Adapter

        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-75-60

        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.101

        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, September 06, 2007 5:26:35 PM

        Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, September 13, 2007 5:26:35 PM



Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 7:



        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :

        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Nintendo Wi-Fi USB Connector

        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-0B-5D-54-20

        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1

        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

[viking]

[...]
        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown

        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
[...]

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:



        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :

        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce MCP Networking Adapter

        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-75-60
[...]

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-75-60
Bad physical address. Have you change it or it became so? How it reached that address, 00-00-00? This is not valid, and there are a few possibilities:
- you changed it on Windows
- faulty network adapter

IP Routing  Enabled...... Yes - your computer is used as a ICS computer, right?

This is the response you got from the computer having trouble to connect to internet? I would check with a different network card. Yours actual seems to have defects. It does not have a valid MAC address (physical address) and ussually this is a sign of a malfunctioning network card.

[Anythingwill]

Oops, i made a really dumb mistake, I did that test on the wrong computer   
It still lets me know that my ethernet on this computer is defective, it would explain a couple things.
but i'll do the test on the right computer in a sec here and post it for you

[Anythingwill]

OK, on the correct computer for ipconfig/all it just said "Windows IP configuration", and for 'c:\outipcfg.txt it said "'c:\outipcfg.txt' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file"
Also, incase you want to know my Network Adapter it says i have a 1394 Net Adapter from Microsoft

[Deerpark]

Also, incase you want to know my Network Adapter it says i have a 1394 Net Adapter from Microsoft

That would be your problem then, the 1394 adapter is a firewire adapter not a network adapter. (The reason it is showing in your Network connections is because you can connect two computers using a firewire cable for some very fast file transferring.)

Have you installed or removed anything recently?

[Anythingwill]

Well, i just plain reinstalled windows, and before that it was my friends computer, so i've never actually had it working myself

[Anythingwill]

I thought we were getting somewhere with Deerpark's post, any more thoughts on it?

Also, in network connections it says "1394 connection" connected at 400Mbps, only, once again, i can't actually get the internet up, and my interent cd says an error occurs while installing.

[viking]

Have you installed the network adapter's drivers? What network adapter card do you have? Integrated on your computer's motherboard? What type of motherboard?

[Anythingwill]

Well i thought i installed the drivers, it's a Shuttle FS51 v2, i went to, http://eu.shuttle.com/archive/en/ss51g_faq.htm, and i installed

AGP driver for all operating systems (6118kB)
VGA SIS Driver v2.07 for Win2000/XP (17144kB)
LAN Driver for all operating systems (SS51G/FS51, 2585kB)
USB2.0 Driver for 2000/XP (7147kB)
Audio Driver Realtek/Avance Logic ALC650 Download Page
VGA AGP Driver for SiS651 Chipset

Then i had to install something from another site because one of the links didn't work i forget what it was, but i think it had something to do with video.
These are all from the top of the page SS51G v1.0.
i tried SS51G v2.0, but they didn't seem to work, and the top ones did.
Perhaps should i try the bottom ones again? and actually my whole comp is a little messed, so which ones should i be downloading from that site to make sure i do it right??

Finally yeah, i'm just using the network adapter that's built in

[viking]

It depends, you say it's a FS51 version 2, but you installed drivers for version 1. So, for version 2, the drivers and other necessary downloads are:

winflash
bios update (only one from the two - I would sugest winflash version)
agp driver
vga driver
audio driver
usb driver
usb patch
network driver package
(eventually the manual)

[Anythingwill]

Ok, update;
The LAN line now shows up when i connect it to the computer, it actually wasn't the computer's fault, it was a cord thing. When i plug the ethernet cord in, the port lights up as well, so i know there's at least power getting to it. I re-installed windows and installed the proper drivers, but it still isn't working. Here are some screen shots from what aida32 found for devices. I don't know if it'll help with anything, but take a look.

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[viking]

"cord thing" - you changed the cable? If not, maybe you should try. I see you have an Realtek 8139 inside. Also I see a question mark in your images. Is something not installed?

[Anythingwill]

Ok so that was the network adapter, it doesn't show up in device manager though, and doesn't seem to be getting the propper drivers installed.
The question mark was because at that point i hadn't installed the sound driver, i didn't figure it'd affect trying to install the internet.
Then the cord thing was a little more than a bad cord. For some reason there's only one cord in my house that will allow me to connect directly from the modem to the computer, and that goes for all of the computers in my house. All the other cords still let me connect from my router to the computer though, i have no idea why. I also can't install internet through the router on any of my computers though. So once i connected that one cord the LAN line lit up.

[viking]

You may try with generic Realtek drivers (that should include your network card - see in the driver description before you download it).

[Anythingwill]

I downloaded from http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=14&PFid=6&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false
I believe that's the right place, it didn't work though, unfortunatly

[viking]

I'm out of ideas

[Anythingwill]

hmm, well even though there's power getting to the ethernet card it could still not work, right?
so perhaps i just need a new one. I'm having a second problem with my computer that i'm trying to fix, so i won't buy one until after i know if the other problem is fixable, but would something like this http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=270169669678&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=017 or this http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=150164449578&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=005 work? just something really cheap?

And if anybody else has any ideas i'd still like to hear them