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Re: insufficient memory in Windows 98
« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2008, 11:20:30 AM »
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Himem.sys should be loaded...
If your config.sys is empty is this a standalone Win98 install ?
There still should be an autoexec.bat...where are you looking ? ?
In the root directory ?

The tweaks for Win98SE to use more than 512 do not need to be applied until afterwards...
   
 
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Re: insufficient memory in Windows 98
« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2008, 11:53:22 AM »

Himem.sys should be loaded...

by config.sys?

Beats me.   config.sys is an empty file here.   Been a while since I last installed Win98SE,  but I think I'd remember if I did anything manually to config.sys -  so I'm thinking that this is how the install made it.

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If your config.sys is empty is this a standalone Win98 install ?

Yes

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There still should be an autoexec.bat

There is.   I mentioned its contents here.

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...where are you looking ? ?
In the root directory ?

Of course.

Why?


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The tweaks for Win98SE to use more than 512 do not need to be applied until afterwards...

afterwards?     .... after what?... what are you referring to?


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Re: insufficient memory in Windows 98
« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2008, 12:21:26 PM »
My Win98SE install is on top of DOS 6.2...sorry about the confusion.
It inherits all device drivers i needed for DOS.
Nevermind on the device drivers.
But your saying a clean install of Win98SE has an empty config and autoexec ? ?

As to your last question i was stating that tweaking Win98 for additional memory does not have to be done at the install point...it can be addressed later.
This was in reference to the OP installing with 1G of RAM...

Sorry but i'm guilty of Old School...i've never installed Win95 or 98SE without DOS being present first.
   
 
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Re: insufficient memory in Windows 98
« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2008, 04:41:54 PM »
My Win98SE install is on top of DOS 6.2...

Ah.
Dual booting?
I think I read that in another post of yours once upon a time.

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sorry about the confusion.

No big deal.   :)

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It inherits all device drivers i needed for DOS.
I could be wrong here,  but when you do that, I think whatever you've put in config.sys is dominant.  It overrides whatever Windoze would have done.
Am I on track?


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Nevermind on the device drivers.
But your saying a clean install of Win98SE has an empty config and autoexec ? ?

config.sys here is empty.   And I believe it started out that way too.   I'm pretty sure I'd remember if I had ever doctored it.

Regarding autoexec.bat,   changes were made to it by some software as it installed.

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C:\PROGRA~1\GRISOFT\AVGFRE~1\BOOTUP.EXE
PATH=%path%;c:\utils;"D:\Program Files\Executive Software\DiskeeperLite\"

If you eliminate AVG and DiskeeperLite  (who recommended that, eh?  :) )
and also eliminate my utils dir,   all you have left is the variable for the original path.    I seem to remember doing it that way when I wanted to add my utils dir.
So yes,  I think autoexec.bat was originally an empty file too.

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As to your last question i was stating that tweaking Win98 for additional memory does not have to be done at the install point...it can be addressed later.
This was in reference to the OP installing with 1G of RAM...

Sorry but i'm guilty of Old School...i've never installed Win95 or 98SE without DOS being present first.

I don't think I've ever installed it over DOS.     It just worked out that way.
I have installed QEMM to manage memory for DOS,  then installed DESQView to multi-task DOS,  but that is going back a ways.    :)



p.s.  A quick google, and I find a few pages where they say that neither config.sys or autoexec.bat are necessary with Win98.
I have no idea if the writers are good reference though.   Didn't dig that hard.
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Re: insufficient memory in Windows 98
« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2008, 10:32:44 AM »
QEMM...what an awesome little utility.
Are you familiar with XTree ? ?

The test bench actually has 6 OS's on it but i'm building a new rig strictly for Vista so that will be stripped off that machine.

And you're correct on the drivers...they override Windoze and are loaded prior to the OS.

I have no idea who recommended DKLite... ::)

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Re: insufficient memory in Windows 98
« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2008, 12:13:12 PM »
QEMM...what an awesome little utility.
Are you familiar with XTree ? ?

XTree Gold seems to ring a bell.
Was it a file manager?    Two panes,  left and right?

If so,  I think I just played with it briefly.   Not that I disliked it,  just never stuck with it.   Can't remember what all it was supposed to do that was so wonderful.... maybe I just missed out on it.


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Re: insufficient memory in Windows 98
« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2008, 12:33:56 PM »
You got it...an extremely powerful File Management tool...it's where i learned all the ins and outs of OS's early on.
   
 
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Re: insufficient memory in Windows 98
« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2008, 12:47:24 PM »
You got it...an extremely powerful File Management tool...it's where i learned all the ins and outs of OS's early on.

I guess I didn't understand its value.    For file copying, moving, deleting, etc. , mostly I just did it from the command line.
For editing,  I used Edit.
For reading and looking inside of zip files,  I used List.com.    Still do.  :)
As a matter of fact,  if I'm in it,  I'll use it to move, copy, and delete files too.
I got on to List.com early on... maybe that's why I didn't catch onto Xtree.

I probably didn't spend enough time with it too.
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Re: insufficient memory in Windows 98
« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2008, 04:21:42 AM »
Hi guys.
Sorry I've not been around for awhile.  Trying to get a lot of other stuff done simultaneously and I suck at multi-tasking.
Latest news:  Got 98 to finish its install after removing one of my 1 GB sticks as suggested.  First reboot after pulling out the RAM got me nothing.  Second reboot got the install wizard back asking for my Key.  Input that and then finished the install.  That's the good news.
The bad news is that when I boot the hard drive to 98 I lose access to the DVD drive.  And I need it to install the drivers for the graphics card so I can get better than basic VGA.
It's just one thing after another, eh?
At that point I realized that I needed to take a step back or risk taking a sledge hammer to my new project.  Gave me a chance to catch up on some other things I needed to do.
Any Ideas, amigos?
 ???

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Re: insufficient memory in Windows 98
« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2008, 08:07:45 AM »
You'll need to track down some Win98 drivers for that DVD from the manuf.....
Do you already have the vid drivers ?
   
 
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Re: insufficient memory in Windows 98
« Reply #25 on: January 23, 2008, 12:57:50 PM »
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You'll need to track down some Win98 drivers for that DVD from the manuf.....
Good idea.  I'll give it a try and let you know.
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Do you already have the vid drivers ?
Yeah.  They came with the Video Graphics card.  On a CD.

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    Re: insufficient memory in Windows 98
    « Reply #26 on: January 23, 2008, 10:37:12 PM »
    Attached are autoexec.bat and config.sys files for a clean W98SE install.

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    Re: insufficient memory in Windows 98
    « Reply #27 on: January 24, 2008, 08:14:56 AM »
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      Re: insufficient memory in Windows 98
      « Reply #29 on: January 25, 2008, 01:22:41 AM »
      ianbel
      Thanks for the files.  I'll compare them against the autoexec.bat, and config.sys files which were created when I finally got 98 to finish its installation.  I checked them once already, in DOS, but I don't remember what was in them.  If I recall correctly the files were pretty small and only had one or two lines in them.

      I went to the website of the  manufacturer for my  DVD writer as suggested.  The bad news is that I couldn't find any windows 98 drivers for this device, nor do they seem to have much support for the device at all.  Limited run device, maybe?  The good news is that, according to what little support they do offer, Windows 98, XP, and VISTA  should support it with their generic drivers. ???

      Perhaps once I have installed these new files everything will (magically) work correctly.

      I'll give it a shot and let you guys know what happens.

      Once again, thanks for all your help.