what graphics card

[computeruler]

i dont know what one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102747 or this one becuase it has alone in the dark and with the rebate only about 3 or 4 more then the 1st one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121253

[midnightfire]

i personally don't like ati, but with gpu's (as with most pc parts) go with the best performance to price ratio. they seem to be the same card, just by different companies. so in this case, i would go with the sapphire 4850.

[Calum]

Get either one, if the bundled game with the Asus appeals to you then get the Asus.
Both companies are very good, but there won;t be any performance difference or anything, they seem to have the same cooler too.

[computeruler]

i think ill get the asus for the game or i could get this other one for 170 and can get a free ati remote

[computeruler]

do you think its worth it to get the 4870 instead or get another 4850 later for crossfire

[Calum]

If you have the money, get a 4870, it's much faster.
Then you can go Crossfire with 2x4870 rather than 2x4850 later on.