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    Wal-Mart DRM Take Away
    « on: September 27, 2008, 01:42:08 PM »
    http://www.boingboing.net/2008/09/26/walmart-shutting-dow.html

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    Wal*Mart shutting down DRM server, nuking your music collection -- only people who pay for music risk losing it to DRM shenanigans
    Posted by Cory Doctorow, September 26, 2008 8:34 PM | permalink

    Hey suckers! Did you buy DRM music from Wal*Mart instead of downloading MP3s for free from the P2P networks? Well, they're repaying your honesty by taking away your music. Unless you go through a bunch of hoops (that you may never find out about, if you've changed email addresses or if you're not a very technical person), your music will no longer be playable after October 9th.

    But don't worry, this will never ever happen to all those other DRM companies -- unlike little fly-by-night mom-and-pop operations like Wal*Mart, the DRM companies are rock-ribbed veterans of commerce and industry, sure to be here for a thousand years. So go on buying your Audible books, your iTunes DRM songs, your Zune media, your EA games... None of these companies will ever disappear, nor will the third-party DRM suppliers they use. They are as solid and permanent as Commodore, Atari, the Soviet Union, the American credit system and the Roman Empire.

    Boy, the entertainment industry sure makes a good case for ripping them off, huh? Buy your media and risk having it confiscated by a DRM-server shutdown. Take it for free and keep it forever.

        From: Walmart Music Team
        Date: Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 7:42 PM
        Subject: Important Information About Your Walmart.com Digital Music Purchases
        To: [email protected]

        Important Information About Your Digital Music Purchases

        We hope you are enjoying the increased music quality/bitrate and the improved usability of Walmart's MP3 music downloads. We began offering MP3s in August 2007 and have offered only DRM (digital rights management) -free MP3s since February 2008. As the final stage of our transition to a full DRM-free MP3 download store, Walmart will be shutting down our digital rights management system that supports protected songs and albums purchased from our site.

        If you have purchased protected WMA music files from our site prior to Feb 2008, we strongly recommend that you back up your songs by burning them to a recordable audio CD. By backing up your songs, you will be able to access them from any personal computer. This change does not impact songs or albums purchased after Feb 2008, as those are DRM-free.

        Beginning October 9, we will no longer be able to assist with digital rights management issues for protected WMA files purchased from Walmart.com. If you do not back up your files before this date, you will no longer be able to transfer your songs to other computers or access your songs after changing or reinstalling your operating system or in the event of a system crash. Your music and video collections will still play on the originally authorized computer.

        Thank you for using Walmart.com for music downloads. We are working hard to make our store better than ever and easier to use.

        Walmart Music Team
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    Re: Wal-Mart DRM Take Away
    « Reply #1 on: September 27, 2008, 05:02:37 PM »
    Lovely.

    You know, I subscribed to iTunes for a while.  I had a problem with my hard drive -- not their fault, I know -- and didn't have proper backup.  iTunes said they had no records of my transactions, and no way to help me.  I never went back.



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      Re: Wal-Mart DRM Take Away
      « Reply #2 on: September 27, 2008, 06:38:49 PM »
      Yep - drmsucks ;D
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      Re: Wal-Mart DRM Take Away
      « Reply #3 on: September 27, 2008, 06:54:15 PM »
      I can proudly say that the only DRM protected files I've- "encountered" were promptly deleted from my hard Drive.


      If I buy music, I get a CD, not the lossy compression that is WMA or MP3, regardless of how much they claim it's "CD-quality".

      Microsoft (with WMA). your compressing the files by throwing away data. It still sounds good, but don't go claiming that by removing over half the data of a CD track it's still the same quality.

      I originally ripped my CD collection at 128kbps- sounded alright- but when I play my music with CDs, I'm blown away by the clarity. (I plan on re-ripping them at 320kbps, now that my HD space is not at a premium.)

      and guess what else? Hard Drive fails? have to reformat? No need to back up your "license keys" or other nonsense. Just get your OS reinstalled, and rip your CD collection. Or, even better- just copy the music you've already ripped.


      The benefits of CD-audio are underrated.
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      Re: Wal-Mart DRM Take Away
      « Reply #4 on: September 27, 2008, 06:59:31 PM »
      No comment.

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      Re: Wal-Mart DRM Take Away
      « Reply #5 on: September 27, 2008, 07:07:39 PM »
      No comment.

      No comment for what? My senseless ramblings, or the wal-mart shutdown?
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      Re: Wal-Mart DRM Take Away
      « Reply #6 on: September 27, 2008, 07:15:39 PM »
      Walmart's BS.

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        Re: Wal-Mart DRM Take Away
        « Reply #7 on: September 27, 2008, 07:16:37 PM »
        Just a friendly warning, all: For legal reasons, do not post links to MP3 sharing sites, or discuss in much detail any illegal file sharing going on. I'm not accusing anyone, just know that any posts too explicit on the subject will have to be removed.

        As for my personal opinion: I hate DRM. It's one thing to protect the artist's chance at getting royalties - it's quite another to treat paying customers like criminals.

        Oh, and screwing them out of music sucks too.
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        Re: Wal-Mart DRM Take Away
        « Reply #8 on: September 27, 2008, 08:59:50 PM »
        Quote
        Hey suckers! Did you buy DRM music from Wal*Mart instead of downloading MP3s for free from the P2P networks?

        Digital rights management (DRM) <- what part of that doesn't sound like a headache?

        Here is a crazy thought. Get off your a$$ and go buy CD's :o

        Then you can do with them what you want. Put them on your MP3 and play them in any player you wish.

        These comments are not directed at anybody specific so please don't take them personally.

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        Re: Wal-Mart DRM Take Away
        « Reply #9 on: September 27, 2008, 09:04:50 PM »
        Here is a crazy thought. Get off your a$$ and go buy CD's :o

        Exactly! And there won't be any trade-offs with quality either!
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        Re: Wal-Mart DRM Take Away
        « Reply #10 on: September 27, 2008, 09:08:24 PM »
        Exactly! And there won't be any trade-offs with quality either!

        I often refrain from posting my first thoughts. Couldn't help that one...

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        Re: Wal-Mart DRM Take Away
        « Reply #11 on: September 27, 2008, 09:14:55 PM »
        Well I, for one- agree whole-heartedly.
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        Re: Wal-Mart DRM Take Away
        « Reply #12 on: September 27, 2008, 09:18:16 PM »
        Let's go back a little.
        Why did Napster happen?
        Number of reasons, but one of them was, that in order to listen to just one song, you fell in love with, you had to buy a whole CD for $15-$20, or so.
        In many cases, just couple of songs were worth something, and the others were just garbage.
        Many people, including myself, felt, it was just a rip-off.

        Napster, and its follow-ups were just very right lesson, which whole music industry learned very fast. They started to sell songs individually.
        Without Napster, and others, that would never happen, and a rip-off would continue.

        We know by now, how music industry lied to us about all those loses, they suffered. They were grossly exaggerated.

        Buying a whole CD in many cases is just going back to old times. In many cases, people don't want to buy a whole CD. They just want 1, 2, or 3 songs from that CD, and that's a whole idea behind Walmart, iTubes, and other services.

        Saying "go buy a whole CD" has nothing to do with people being ripped off by Walmart.
        Just my 2 cents.

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        Re: Wal-Mart DRM Take Away
        « Reply #13 on: September 27, 2008, 09:30:31 PM »
        Ahh yes- Thanks Broni, I forgot that angle- It's weird that they had Singles LPs, but they never made anything like a Singles CD- (they could have used the 3 1/2" CD size)

        Honestly- I don't listen to todays music, but I've found that even if I don't initially like a song, over time I grow to like it. This is true for many of my current favourite Queen songs, which I never would have heard if I had not bought their platinum collection.


        On the other hand, a lot of people only have a passing interest in an Artist, and would only want their hits, not really caring if the CD had an acoustic version of the bands initial few songs.

        We know by now, how music industry lied to us about all those loses, they suffered. They were grossly exaggerated.

        Hey, some Artists were essentially transient! I mean, some had to settle on a 282 Seat personal jet rather then the Boeing Special Issue "Part T. TIL 747 AM". And it's all because we downloaded music.

        lol
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          Re: Wal-Mart DRM Take Away
          « Reply #14 on: September 27, 2008, 09:32:30 PM »
          Just a friendly warning, all: For legal reasons, do not post links to MP3 sharing sites, or discuss in much detail any illegal file sharing going on. I'm not accusing anyone, just know that any posts too explicit on the subject will have to be removed.

          This thread hasn't even hinted at illegality- nor is that it's purpose. What are you warning against...and why? What makes you think that people are going to post "MP3 sharing sites?"

          This thread is about (possibly) taking away the right of people to access the music they have paid for because of a silly, convoluted system devised to line the pockets of record companies - and, it's not the first time that it has happened. It's not illegal to have DRM free music - just ask Amazon.
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