SLOWWWW Celeron 667 machine

[patio]

well technically hes right because the performance does decrease when it breaks

This is worse than his comments...you guys should quit while you're still ahead.

[fgdn17]

is it by any chance running Norton OR McAfee? If it is with xp and that small amount of memory your going to be dead all the time...both the above mentioned anti-virus programs are resource hogs...if your running either they are most likely slowing that system down....increase the memory to start...

Good Luck

[computeruler]

norton does suck it slowed down my 3ghz p4 1gb ram computer

[killerb255]

Okay peeps, we already have the problem (old machine that's slower on the net than even its usual slowness) and what the OP is doing (found rogue anti-malware program--will clean it off and put good anti-malware program on).  No need to go further until we hear back from him.

Yes, we know Norton sucks.

No, RAM does not deteriorate over time.  FLASH memory has a limited number of write cycles, but not physical RAM.

Yes, you can be happy with an old PC if its capabilities suit your needs and your mind is used to the pace in which the PC performs.  However, it's difficult to address any hardware problems that may occur on older PCs, as available replacement hardware is either nonexistent, existent only by special order, existent through auctions like eBay, and/or costs as much as new hardware, creating a situation where you're throwing good money at bad...or bad money at good...or however the expression goes.

[Dias de verano]

throwing good money at bad...or bad money at good...or however the expression goes.

Where I come from, we say "throwing good money after bad" to describe that situation.

Can I just say that I really hate it when people write "SLOWWWWWW" to mean "slow"? It doesn't make us understand the word "slow" any better, because we understood it OK already.

[BC_Programmer]

Can I just say that I really hate it when people write "SLOWWWWWW" to mean "slow"? It doesn't make us understand the word "slow" any better, because we understood it OK already.

come to think of it, that would be similar to writing the word "incomplete" as "incomp"

trying to introduce phonetic onomatopoeia in such a fashion doesn't work very well.

[Dias de verano]

My other pet hate is when (mainly Americans, I'm afraid) want to express "cuteness" they write an 'a' followed by a huge number of 'w's like this

oh look a cute little kitty awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

[BC_Programmer]

My other pet hate is when (mainly Americans, I'm afraid) want to express "cuteness" they write an 'a' followed by a huge number of 'w's like this

oh look a cute little kitty awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

yeah, wouldn't the proper grammar be something like, "oh look, a cute kitty. I am in awe to it's cuteness"

and I say 2 is the limit with the informal use of the word aww. The extra w's do nothing to enhance it's meaning. Heck, just put a bar over top like with numbers that go on.

[killerb255]

Can I just say that I really hate it when people write "SLOWWWWWW" to mean "slow"? It doesn't make us understand the word "slow" any better, because we understood it OK already.

In that particular case, it's not an issue of understanding the word.  It's a matter of understanding the degree or intensity of it.

I would see "SLOWWWWW" to mean "extremely slow" or "slower than a turtle."  Sometimes this is a good way to convey an extreme when compared to a gray area.  This is helpful in a world where many people are taught to think only in black and white and shun away from "complicated gray areas."

To me, anything slower than 1.5 GHz is slow.  A Celeron 667 MHz is "SLOWWWW" to me.  That's just opinion, though, as a Celeron 667 can be functional enough for many (as BC_Programmer has indicated earlier with his AMD K6-2 350 MHz).

As for the OP's use of the term...it might just be a little too dramatic here.

come to think of it, that would be similar to writing the word "incomplete" as "incomp"

"Incomp," on the other hand, doesn't really convey any additional meaning other than someone was either in a hurry or was just being lazy.

As long as what's typed is understandable, I don't care.  If I can easily correct someone's spelling, grammar, or punctuation, then I can understand the meaning of their message enough to reply to it appropriately.  If I'm confused as all *censored* to the point where I can't correct it, then there's something horribly wrong.

[Dias de verano]

As long as what's typed is understandable, I don't care.

Well, thank you for sharing that with us. In general I tend to agree with you, but one of the good things about humanity is that we're all different. I get a bug up my arse ("*censored*" for N. Americans) about things like "ewwwwww" and "awwwwwww" and "plzzzzzz" etc but that's just me I suppose.

[killerb255]

Well, thank you for sharing that with us. In general I tend to agree with you, but one of the good things about humanity is that we're all different.

Agreed.  Of course one of the bad things about humanity is that we all have a subconscious want for others to be the same to keep things simple for ourselves, but as long as we keep in mind that this isn't realistic, and that we are, indeed, different, then no harm no foul.

I get a bug up my arse ("a*s" for N. Americans) about things like "ewwwwww" and "awwwwwww" and "plzzzzzz" etc but that's just me I suppose.

Nah.  It's not just you.   Everyone has their pet peeves.

I'm not a big fan of "plzzzzzzz" myself--comes off as either laziness or just trying too hard to be "cool."  Not much we can do about it, though.  That's why I resigned myself to "If it's understandable, I can work with it."

One of my pet peeves is when I hear someone from the ghettos of North America mock the way I talk because I don't speak in (I'll try not to be politically incorrect here) "Ebonics" or "African-American Vernacular English," despite being black myself.  Who are they to tell me how I should talk?  It's no different than "a*s" vs "arse," right?

[Dias de verano]

One of my pet peeves is when I hear someone from the ghettos of North America mock the way I talk because I don't speak in (I'll try not to be politically incorrect here) "Ebonics" or "African-American Vernacular English," despite being black myself.  Who are they to tell me how I should talk?  It's no different than "a*s" vs "arse," right?

I understand exactly. Even though I am a Londoner, I do not talk like a Cockney, and I get a similar pressure from those who do, as if I am somehow betraying what they see as "my background", or sometimes they allege that I am somehow getting above myself. The plain fact is that I can't help the way I talk.

[BC_Programmer]

To me, anything slower than 1.5 GHz is slow.  A Celeron 667 MHz is "SLOWWWW" to me.  That's just opinion, though, as a Celeron 667 can be functional enough for many (as BC_Programmer has indicated earlier with his AMD K6-2 350 MHz).

Which is faster: a 1.2Ghz Machine trying to Run Vista or a 40 Mhz 386 running DOS 6?

The "trick" is to use the OS and software that best matches the hardware; when I do that, I can almost always get a decent speed.

I got so used to the speed of my old computer, that when I got this "new" one, by the time I noticed a slowdown from an malware infection, it was quite deep! (with my K6, I usually could tell when their was a single malware process... they aren't exacty optimized for speed...)


additionally; CPU differences other then speed play a big factor. I don't think a Celeron 667 would be any faster then my K6, since, AFAIK, the Celeron line was stripped of some of it's On-die cache.



As far as linguistics, I've only recently overcome my peeve for words that should be spelled with ou spelt with an o, such as "colour" "honour", and so forth.

The neat part came when I wrote my own colour library, since all the standard color stuff was using the americanized word, Color, I could simply use the standard Colour and not have to worry about naming conflicts.


One curiosity for me has been the words Grey, and Gray. Which one is the original and which one is correct?

[patio]

I believe Grey is the original...
Course i also believe they are different shades...

[Dias de verano]

I believe Grey is the original...
Course i also believe they are different shades...

Gray is a color.

Grey is a colour.