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Re: no problem just curious if one is developing
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2009, 05:11:17 PM »
As for "Who crashed", you may keep it. It's very small program, so it doesn't take space.

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    Re: no problem just curious if one is developing
    « Reply #16 on: January 30, 2009, 06:08:24 PM »
    OK will do and if have any difficulties will run and post the results.  Guess this winds up the thread.  Thanks once more for following through.


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      Re: no problem just curious if one is developing
      « Reply #17 on: January 30, 2009, 06:12:54 PM »
      Just got to thinking is Patch Tuesday the same as all the updates that MS sends out?  I update regularly whether Tuesday or not.  Not sure if updates and Patch Tuesday are one and the same.

      Will keep track of the second Tuesday of each month to see what I can learn :o

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      Re: no problem just curious if one is developing
      « Reply #18 on: January 30, 2009, 06:23:46 PM »
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      if updates and Patch Tuesday are one and the same
      Yes.

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        Re: no problem just curious if one is developing
        « Reply #19 on: January 30, 2009, 09:33:54 PM »
        OK thanks will be on watch out especially re Patch Tuesday.

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          Re: no problem just curious if one is developing
          « Reply #20 on: January 31, 2009, 09:47:50 AM »
          Hi

          1.
          Viewing events is safe - no damage can be done.
          Mostly they will be information.
          If the computer has or is developing a fault then you may observe some yellow warnings or red errors.
          If these are at the start of the day it could explain start-up difficulties.

          For advice on any event, right click and select properties;
          in the next window click the button with two sheets of paper to copy all the data to clipboard,
          then Ctrl V will paste the information into a Forum post if you want help.

          2.
          Have you considered Firefox ?
          I am one of many that consider it far safer than I.E.
          In the bottom right corner is a button to make it imitate I.E.
          Firefox will coexist with I.E., so you can choose which version of I.E. to retain for those hazardous sites (such as your school) that insist you run the hazards of Active X.

          Regards
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            Re: no problem just curious if one is developing
            « Reply #21 on: January 31, 2009, 08:30:43 PM »
            I looked at my Event Viewer and was staryellow tled to see in the first log and last log many many warnings and red errors!

            Not sure whether I should be worried or not.  And anyway to learn more about how to avoid such do you know?

            Will try Firefox and see how it goes.  I know when I tried it some time ago got rather weary of switching back and forth back and forth because some of my stuff I was working on wanted IE, especially if someone sent me something in an email to look at.  But for security measures maybe should give Firefox another try.

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              Re: no problem just curious if one is developing
              « Reply #22 on: January 31, 2009, 09:58:00 PM »
              Am trying Firefox but got no further with it than IE6 re accessing the college computer for  stats input.  In fact had to use my Administrator Account rather than the User Account to even open up the college mail program that I use.  Even then it would not work re getting me to a class roster spreadsheet.  Guess it is the school computer and the way they have it configured that demands IE7 >:(

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              Re: no problem just curious if one is developing
              « Reply #23 on: January 31, 2009, 11:03:34 PM »
              Pull a me then. Go Opera web browser.

              http://www.opera.com/

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                Re: no problem just curious if one is developing
                « Reply #24 on: February 01, 2009, 10:44:34 AM »
                nondaj

                When my event log has a Red warning I worry.
                When there is no warning I worry that it is hiding something ! !

                A red warning "Ftdisk, data may have been lost" caused me to take action,
                my daughter now has to follow strict rules before plugging her IPOD into the USB ports of my computer.

                Many people never bother to look at the event logs.
                Some of them live one day at a time and one BSOD at a time ! !

                I like to have a look once a week to be sure of "normality"

                This is how I investigate an error :-
                A SYSTEM error at 20/01/2009 18:43:32
                I look for interesting events at related times in the other logs.
                The Application log shows at 18:43:22 MsiInstaller caused event 11724
                I right click and find that PerfectDisk 2008 was removed successfully.
                I now remember that it was upgraded, and obviously the old version was removed without Windows prior approval ! !
                Windows surprised me at how good a job it did,
                it noticed something that might have been bad (e.g. a virus deleting anti-virus) and it put an "error" in the log.
                (I miss the old days of Windows 9x when warnings went on the screen, but I guess M.$ tech support could not keep up with all the phone calls when customers knew how bad their computers were ! !)

                Had I not found a valid cause, I would have investigated further as follows :-
                1.  Select the error;  sshot-39
                2.  Double click to see its properties;  sshot-40
                3.  Click on the link http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp. which was above the hand.  This launches the Help and Support center.
                I do not know if I have had too many security patches, or if it always works so badly for everyone, but for me the Help and Support Center does not know why I woke it up.
                Once it is awake I click on the link a second time, and then Help and Support knows what is wrong and it gives me sshot-41

                As you can see from the slide bar, it is like an iceberg, only the top 10% is visible.  By sliding down there is a lot more information, and if that is not enough it can link you to M.$ Knowledge Databases.

                The first stage is to investigate a problem as above.
                That will often show unusual but reasonable causes (e.g. user actions such as upgrading software).

                I think if you have many errors and warnings upon start-up then it would be prudent to investigate.

                You might find an error due to the Internet Connection not being available when ESET wants a virus signature update - something changed on my internet and for several days no updates arrived, I had to reconfigure ESET to update once per hour instead of only at start-up.

                If an error really worries you and you want advice, sshot-40 has 3 buttons centre right,
                just click the bottom one and all the information is placed in your clipboard ready for Ctrl' V  to paste into a forum post for help.

                If I.E.7 is essential for school, so be it.
                You should never have any problem having Firefox or Opera as preferred alternatives for normal non-school work.

                You may be able to use all 3 browsers simultaneously - but look out for BSOD's ! !
                 
                Best wishes
                Alan


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                  Re: no problem just curious if one is developing
                  « Reply #25 on: February 01, 2009, 12:09:20 PM »
                  OK have copied your response and when have time will study same and watch the management area more closely knowing a little bit more about it now.  Not sure how long a thread is permitted to run but am sure I will have many more questions re this matter.   If not suppose some moderator will so inform me.

                  I again am having differing concerns about my logon windows sequence.  It changes is what concerns me.  This  AM the PC booted up as such:

                  black screen and wait wait wait for next screen ( OR sometimes I get
                  a black screen with a flickering cursor
                  then black 'screen of choice' between XP and Safe mode (it goes so fast cannot
                            really get a handle on this one)
                  next the  Win. Logo screen with little rolling marbles (?)
                  on occasion another black screen with a wait so long I think I may have to reboot
                  next a blue screen, short wait for the little logon window for name and password
                  then desktop appears (sometimes icons snap to immediately); other times takes quite a few seconds before icons appear

                  Where the sequence changes is in the beginning five screens; some being omitted others coming in differing sequence.

                  So think this management operation now that I am aware of it will be helpful to me after I study and learn how to use it.

                  Thanks for all your support and information - off to carry through now.

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                    Re: no problem just curious if one is developing
                    « Reply #26 on: February 01, 2009, 12:48:37 PM »
                    It may be sufficient to look at the first red warning of the day when the computer is switched on.  That may well reveal a problem that causes all the following warnings and the chaotic start-up.

                    AN EASY ALTERNATIVE.
                    Take home an I.T. support guy from your school.
                    What can be a tedious and long process of selecting and copying and pasting and posting and waiting for the next step and and and etc.
                    is so very easy for some-one familiar with computers and sat at your keyboard.

                    You might have to buy him a beer,
                    or he might volunteer if the I.T. manager authorises his paid overtime for improving your ability to supply school reports via software that has to comply with I.T. department requirements.

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                      Re: no problem just curious if one is developing
                      « Reply #27 on: February 01, 2009, 06:54:07 PM »
                      You have to be kidding about an IT guy coming home from our school to help.  They half the time do not return phone calls when called and half the time they are not even in their office when you do call.  If the latter happens one can get shuttled around and around from person to person who knows next to nothing about the programs.

                      Some times I think there must be a bunch of no nothings in the department because each semester they are changing something on their PC programs.  They are worse than MS fiddling around with updates or putting out Versions of windows that fail to do the job really well and so another version comes.  XP was doing fine, then Vista rather failed I hear and now another version is in the wings!

                      Personally I remember Win3.1 and loved that format.