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Re: My computer is so dirty I have to wear Gloves...Help Cleaning Please
« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2009, 10:53:05 AM »
Your computer is infected by Virut.

Virut spreads through every .exe, .dll and a other critical files on a computer. It's polymorphic, which means it spreads faster than any antivirus can contain it. 99.99% of the time the only solution is a reformat and reinstall. Virut is so aggressive it even re-infects infected files. It's a computer killer...

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    « Reply #16 on: February 17, 2009, 11:00:34 AM »
    Your computer is infected by Virut.

    Virut spreads through every .exe, .dll and a other critical files on a computer. It's polymorphic, which means it spreads faster than any antivirus can contain it. 99.99% of the time the only solution is a reformat and reinstall. Virut is so aggressive it even re-infects infected files. It's a computer killer...

    I bet that makes him feel better.

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    Re: My computer is so dirty I have to wear Gloves...Help Cleaning Please
    « Reply #17 on: February 17, 2009, 11:20:05 AM »
    LOL, yea. It's a cheery revelation...

    I made a new thread here on this with more information.

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      « Reply #18 on: February 17, 2009, 12:22:39 PM »
      LOL, yea. It's a cheery revelation...

      I made a new thread here on this with more information.

      "Hey mom, let me use the computer real quick!" *Opens this up* Hmm...Lets see, Post by evilfantasy, oh yay.

      WHAT!?!  *faints*

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        « Reply #19 on: February 17, 2009, 03:58:41 PM »
        thats why i would love to give the dumb sack of potatoes, who wrote Virut. a good bit of fist.

        yet, hopefully sometime in the near future firewalls will prevent this virus.
        If you dont know DOS, you dont know Windows...

        Thats why Bill Gates created the Windows NT Family.

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        Re: My computer is so dirty I have to wear Gloves...Help Cleaning Please
        « Reply #20 on: February 17, 2009, 07:08:05 PM »
        thats why i would love to give the dumb sack of potatoes, who wrote Virut. a good bit of fist.

        yet, hopefully sometime in the near future firewalls will prevent this virus.

        you need to learn a little more about firewalls. LOL


        I was trying to dereference Null Pointers before it was cool.

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        Re: My computer is so dirty I have to wear Gloves...Help Cleaning Please
        « Reply #21 on: February 17, 2009, 09:46:32 PM »
        The original isssue was, I thought, about dirt.
        What kind of dirt?
        Does a good firewall keep out all kinds of dirt? :P

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          Re: My computer is so dirty I have to wear Gloves...Help Cleaning Please
          « Reply #22 on: February 18, 2009, 07:30:00 AM »
          The mudwall does.

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            « Reply #23 on: February 18, 2009, 12:22:55 PM »
            thats why i would love to give the dumb sack of potatoes, who wrote Virut. a good bit of fist.

            yet, hopefully sometime in the near future firewalls will prevent this virus.

            you need to learn a little more about firewalls. LOL


            some fire walls prevent programs from accessing files, running themselves...stuff of that nature.
            If you dont know DOS, you dont know Windows...

            Thats why Bill Gates created the Windows NT Family.

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            Re: My computer is so dirty I have to wear Gloves...Help Cleaning Please
            « Reply #24 on: February 18, 2009, 12:37:44 PM »
            thats why i would love to give the dumb sack of potatoes, who wrote Virut. a good bit of fist.

            yet, hopefully sometime in the near future firewalls will prevent this virus.

            you need to learn a little more about firewalls. LOL


            some fire walls prevent programs from accessing files, running themselves...stuff of that nature.

            No, they don't. that's a AV.

            a firewall simply hooks all TCP,UDP, and in some cases IPX communications calls and blocks access through certain ports, and will warn when unknown programs open ports.

            In this case such protection would do nothing, as the file is a trojan (IE downloaded via say P2P or something purposely) and then when run executes the payload of infecting files. no program initiated internet connections are established. (at least not my this particular virus).
            I was trying to dereference Null Pointers before it was cool.

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            Re: My computer is so dirty I have to wear Gloves...Help Cleaning Please
            « Reply #25 on: February 18, 2009, 12:52:55 PM »
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            « Last Edit: February 18, 2009, 01:10:03 PM by evilfantasy »

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            Re: My computer is so dirty I have to wear Gloves...Help Cleaning Please
            « Reply #26 on: February 18, 2009, 01:07:00 PM »
            a Firewall is purely the Internet facing side of a security solution. Other components monitor the other stuff.

            The thing is- a lot of interprocess communication is done via Named Pipes - interestingly enough, a Socket is really just a Named Pipe that goes to another machine on the net.

            So if the Firewall program hooks into the "CreateNamedPipe" API, it will also be able to inspect interprocess communication. of course there really is no way to know wether such communication is malicious, so the benefit of that is fairly low.

            Also, since Named Pipes are written/read using the ubiquitous WriteFile/WriteFileEx and ReadFile/ReadFileEx API functions, hooking those will also result in the ability to hook into filesystem calls. This is far easier to inspect then interprocess communication.

            Some may say, But BC! I thought internet connections using WinSock used Sockets, not Named Pipes?

            Thats true, and I may be wrong in the assertion that WinSock, while representing Socket connections at a high level, is really just using Named Pipes to remote servers deeper down (again, just a educated guess on my part).


            The thing is, Although "firewall" software may include these features, the features are not part of the "Firewall" itself and are rather simply part of the software. removing the features would make them no less of a firewall, and other firewalls may/may not have these features (such as Windows Firewall, which is no less of a firewall because of it).


            making a broad statement that Firewalls do that is like saying that a image editor allows you to save in TGA format. Sure, a wide variety of image editors do, and it is a common practice, but basic image editors don't always have this ability- but it still makes them no less of a image editor.

            See what I'm saying?  :)
            I was trying to dereference Null Pointers before it was cool.

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            Re: My computer is so dirty I have to wear Gloves...Help Cleaning Please
            « Reply #27 on: February 18, 2009, 01:09:19 PM »


            Many firewall vendors are incorporating AV technology into their product now days. They have to as the traditional firewall was getting easier and easier to exploit.

            The tricky part is doing it so the AV and FW don't "argue" with one another...

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            Re: My computer is so dirty I have to wear Gloves...Help Cleaning Please
            « Reply #28 on: February 18, 2009, 01:11:21 PM »
            Well there I went and trashed your post Kieran.

            I'm getting good at that lately...

            Sorry, I feel like a tool

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            Re: My computer is so dirty I have to wear Gloves...Help Cleaning Please
            « Reply #29 on: February 18, 2009, 02:11:04 PM »
            Okay there evil. ;D

            I can see why.  :-[