about DOS

[Flux]

dos in this generations are replica's of the original text mode based OS ryt?..
can any1 please enumerate a few things DOS where dos is really important?..please correct me if im wrong withe the first sentence

[squall_01]

cant recal but in its self isnt based off anything IBM ask microsoft for a an os and wasnt able to provide one but asked for help and later was marketed as microsofts.  Something like that if I recall, if you cant boot your system its so small that you can just boot it off a disk if you have one.  All so you  can use it to easly multipulate windows files in such a way that you can easily get your machine up and going again,  the main reason was cause early pcs didnt all have cd drives so it was needed.  Also cd drives cost a good couple hundreds know its like 30 dollars.

[Aegis]

DOS once meant Disk Operating System, and was the actual operating system for computers, up through DOS 6.22 (I think). 
Now DOS is an emualtion environment, for the purpose of writing and executing batch files and programs.

[squall_01]

Yes that is right for the most part.  Never heard of it being emulated.

[Dias de verano]

Never heard of it being emulated.

Really? Seriously? Never heard of DosBox, or VMWare or VirtualPC?

[squall_01]

virtualpc but not any of those others or dos being used like that.

[Helpmeh]

virtualpc but not any of those others or dos being used like that.

You've never heard of DOSBox?!

[x2543]

it was MSDOS then now i think it's just your Command prompt or CMD.

DosBix is the emulator and you can use it to play old games requiring the old dos.

[Helpmeh]

it was MSDOS then now i think it's just your Command prompt or CMD.

DosBix is the emulator and you can use it to play old games requiring the old dos.

Correct, although some later DOS games can be run without an EMU.

[Geek-9pm]

First things first. There is no DOS in Windows XP! What is called the "command prompt" is not really DOS ... it can be thought of as more of a simulation of DOS. Windows XP (and Windows 2000), unlike Windows 95, 98, and ME, are NOT built on an MSDOS foundation. So, while this makes for better speed and stability, it also makes for sometimes lousy backwards compatibility.

http://www.dosgames.com/xphints.php

[Aegis]

I suppose I wasn't quite correct when I used "emulation" -- I was thinking in terms that DOS isn't really being used to run the computer, anymore.  When I bring up the DOS window via CMD, it's not really an emulation.  It's what -- an environment?

Yes, the emulators, such as DOSBOX, are really cool!

[Geek-9pm]

simulation
emulation
Sounds, the same.
But it means the XP simulation come close.
The DOS emulation is as close as you can get.
Or, just boot off an old PC-DOS floppy and it IS DOS.

The First DOS for x86 was from IBM.
 Here is a story dated April 1, this year, about IBM's  plans for PC-DOS.
http://mainframe-watch-belgium.blogspot.com/2009/04/ibm-introduces-pc-dos-for-system-z.html

[Helpmeh]

simulation
emulation
Sounds, the same.
But it means the XP simulation come close.
The DOS emulation is as close as you can get.
Or, just boot off an old PC-DOS floppy and it IS DOS.

The First DOS for x86 was from IBM.
 Here is a story dated April 1, this year, about IBM's  plans for PC-DOS.
http://mainframe-watch-belgium.blogspot.com/2009/04/ibm-introduces-pc-dos-for-system-z.html

It was called 86-DOS or QDOS. Microsoft bought the rights for $75 000, then released MS-DOS.

[squall_01]

thats it thanks couldnt really recall.

[Helpmeh]

thats it thanks couldnt really recall.

I actually just presented a presentation on MS-DOS for my class. A little bit of history with uses of some basic commands (including format  ).

[Geek-9pm]

It was called 86-DOS or QDOS. Microsoft bought the rights for $75 000, then released MS-DOS.

Yes, I forgot.  But the IBM PC made it widely available.
It is like:
Who invented the Telephone?
Who invented the Automobile?
Who invented Vodka?
You get different answers.

[squall_01]

You should have asked we did dos a good while back, thing is that I dont recall anything but the commands.  Were covering linux know so doing that for know.

[Helpmeh]

Yes, I forgot.  But the IBM PC made it widely available.
It is like:
Who invented the Telephone?
Who invented the Automobile?
Who invented Vodka?
You get different answers.

MS-DOS was used originally for the IBM-8086...so of course it was widely available.

[squall_01]

Windows 3.1 was the only other choice.  Course there was like DR-Dos and such but dont think that was used to much.

[Helpmeh]

Windows 3.1 was the only other choice.  Course there was like DR-Dos and such but dont think that was used to much.

Windows 3.1 wasn't that popular untill a while after it came out.

[squall_01]

well it was like lotus 123 AND wordperft.

[BC_Programmer]

windows 3.1 wasn't an operating system anyway.

[Aegis]

There was a time when Lotus and WordPerfect were the standards for business.  Microsoft did a good job of marketing, and they did a good job of developing their office suite.

I used to like Win 3.1 -- the convenience of the graphical interface, with the fixability of DOS!   

[BC_Programmer]

I used to like Win 3.1 -- the convenience of the graphical interface, with the fixability of DOS!   

And the stability of a skyscraper constructed of balsa wood 

for windows 9x and 3.1 the best thing was that you could drop to DOS in an emergency and have all the DOS commands at your disposal. now we just have the "recovery console" which is far less versatile.

[Geek-9pm]

And the stability of a skyscraper constructed of balsa wood  Tongue

Balsa wood is great if you are making a boat.

Windows 3.1 / 3.11 was very productive with Wordperfect and Lotus 123.
At least it would float.

All of which has little to do with the continued use of the DOS command set. Or does it?

[squall_01]

I have it never used it, its my fathers not sure were he had goten it. 

[BC_Programmer]

Balsa wood is great if you are making a boat.

Windows 3.1 / 3.11 was very productive with Wordperfect and Lotus 123.
At least it would float.

Yes it was. Still is, depending on what you want to accomplish.

And nowadays while it's a huge PITA to get hooked to the net it is practically invincible to viruses nowadays.

[Helpmeh]

Yes it was. Still is, depending on what you want to accomplish.

And nowadays while it's a huge PITA to get hooked to the net it is practically invincible to viruses nowadays.

Just like macs...it's incompatibility is a security feature...

[squall_01]

It works as long as it windows based.