Welcome guest. Before posting on our computer help forum, you must register. Click here it's easy and free.

Author Topic: ping issue  (Read 8652 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Spoiler



    Specialist

    Thanked: 50
  • Experience: Beginner
  • OS: Windows XP
Re: ping issue
« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2009, 01:10:51 PM »
When you were at school did they load some software so you could connect to there network....the most popular is put out by CISCO.

I would say that the software is still on your machine. If you don't plan on going back to school or connecting remotly with some client software than I would look into removing it. If you are going back than leave it alone.

Ping is no big deal....you don't need it to get on the web.....

The latency can be from many things....how busy the servers are...how much traffic is on them...how much traffic is on your ISP....etc...

Whenever I watch TV and I see those poor starving kids all over the world, I can't help but cry. I mean I would love to be skinny like that, but not with all those flies and death and stuff." - Mariah Carey, Pop Singer

Carbon Dudeoxide

  • Global Moderator

  • Mastermind
  • Thanked: 169
    • Yes
    • Yes
    • Yes
  • Certifications: List
  • Experience: Guru
  • OS: Mac OS
Re: ping issue
« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2009, 07:45:05 PM »
Change what?

If it makes you feel any better, none of my computers can ping www.microsoft.com. It's not a problem with your computer.

Just wondering if you read that....

You seemed to be worried about nothing.

apple266



    Intermediate

    Thanked: 1
  • Certifications: List
  • Computer: Specs
  • Experience: Experienced
  • OS: Windows 7
Re: ping issue
« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2009, 05:38:16 PM »
hmmm wierd, I can't ping www.microsoft.com either this is strange

BC_Programmer


    Mastermind
  • Typing is no substitute for thinking.
  • Thanked: 1140
    • Yes
    • Yes
    • BC-Programming.com
  • Certifications: List
  • Computer: Specs
  • Experience: Beginner
  • OS: Windows 11
Re: ping issue
« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2009, 08:13:25 PM »
 ::)


This looks like a case of a person who is just starting to learn about computers (or more precisely networking) and will mess around with settings trying to "fix" a non-existent problem, only to make things worse.

If ping isn't working, it DOESN'T matter! as Rob said, a lot of computers will NOT reply to the ICMP packets. This is the case for most PCs running any sort of firewall.

By messing around with your network settings in an attempt to fix this "problem" you'll undoubtedly make the problem worse (for example- your internet works now, but change a few settings in an attempt to fix your "ping" issue and suddenly nothing works!)



regarding microsoft.com- their server simply doesn't respond to pings; It will accept connection requests via HTTP and FTP but will reject any ICMP packets. I imagine this is to reduce server load responding to these pings. A number of other companies web-sites will not respond to pings, either; in fact I cannot even ping some of the other machines on my own network, since they have a firewall that by default rejects ICMP packets.


why are so many things configured to ignore ICMP packets? quite simple, really- it makes the machine essentially invisible to ping sweeps made by hackers. This is the basic method amateur/wannabe hackers use to scan for their targets. they set up a program to ping a designated set of IP addresses (a certain subnet, perhaps) and then analyze the output to determine which IPs have a computer behind them (the ones that respond); they then perform further checks on each IP to see if it's "hackable" (exploits, backdoors, etc).

Aside from that- ping traffic can take up a good deal of a server's time if it is set to respond to it, especially for companies such as "microsoft.com" which has been the target of several distributed denial of service attacks via giant bot-net's pinging their server until it is so bogged down dealing with the ICMP traffic it can no longer properly service all the legitimate clients connecting.
I was trying to dereference Null Pointers before it was cool.

zhuge455

    Topic Starter


    Greenhorn

    Re: ping issue
    « Reply #19 on: June 15, 2009, 09:16:45 AM »
    they didn't load any software that i know of but if it has to be i can double check  the odd thing is its hamachi messing up with the ping issue so it could be more related to that :/ (messed up ports/port forwarding?)

    computeruler



      Egghead

      Thanked: 63
      • Yes
      • Yes
    • Experience: Experienced
    • OS: Mac OS
    Re: ping issue
    « Reply #20 on: June 15, 2009, 10:46:12 AM »
    No one can ping microsoft.  I found that out a couple weeks ago.  Its weird.  6ms ping is REALLY good and your worried about nothing so just stop worrying