August monthly poll

[Cityscape]

You guys have messed up computers.

Maybe so, I'm getting ready to reformat (and switch to Ubuntu - XP dual boot) my PC so the IE files might be messed. It also only seems to crash on one user.

It's just a lesser browser, that's all.

True, same with Safari and some others.

[geek hoodlum]

I use IE 8 for local connection only, best for our application.
Overall, I use Firefox 3.5.2 for my daily stuffs.

[Ivy]

If your IE looks like this, then it explains everything...

That can't be real

[lordvader781]

I use primarily Firefox most of the time. Occasionally I do use IE8 when a site doesn't work in FF.

[BC_Programmer]

That can't be real

I haven't seen it that bad, but I've seen people running IE with about a third of their screen occupied by toolbars.

[hexaae]

IE7 or 8 are more secure than any other browser on Vista or Win7 because of Protected Mode that sandboxes the application and add-ons using the Integrity Levels. This way even a still unknown menace can't do big damages because won't have sufficient rights to write/delete/execute nothing harmful.
It is so effective that even Mozilla team plans to add it in FireFox to improve its security:
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mozilla_2/Protected_mode
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Feature_Brainstorming:Security

It is something people don't consider when comparing browsers and bashing IE.

[Broni]

IE7 or 8 are more secure

Yes, in Bill's dreams.

[Cityscape]

That can't be real

It can, if I go download all the toolbars I can find in a google search, I'd have at least that many.

Overall, I use Firefox 3.5.2 for my daily stuffs.

Actually, I prefer Firefox 3.x over Firefox 3.5 because Firefox 3.5 has some annoyances.
Like when / if I have 20+ tabs up I have to close them all before shutting down, otherwise it will automatically save all of them. Firefox 3.x would always ask me.

IE7 or 8 are more secure than any other browser on Vista or Win7 because of Protected Mode.

Not true, MS will always say that kind of thing. Firefox is at worst just as stable as IE.

[patio]

Actually, I prefer Firefox 3.x over Firefox 3.5 because Firefox 3.5 has some annoyances.
Like when / if I have 20+ tabs up I have to close them all before shutting down, otherwise it will automatically save all of them. Firefox 3.x would always ask me.

I believe TabMixPlus still leaves this option open...

[Mulreay]

It can, if I go download all the toolbars I can find in a google search,

I think the point was that's not someones browser 

[Broni]

if I have 20+ tabs up I have to close them all before shutting down, otherwise it will automatically save all of them.

Make sure, your FF is not set to last option:

[patio]

Doggone it Broni...
You got me SnagIt and i'm still not as good as you....

 

Carry on....

[Broni]

Practice, practice, practice......hehehehe

[BC_Programmer]

IE7 or 8 are more secure than any other browser on Vista or Win7 because of Protected Mode that sandboxes the application and add-ons using the Integrity Levels. This way even a still unknown menace can't do big damages because won't have sufficient rights to write/delete/execute nothing harmful.
It is so effective that even Mozilla team plans to add it in FireFox to improve its security:
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mozilla_2/Protected_mode
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Feature_Brainstorming:Security

It is something people don't consider when comparing browsers and bashing IE.

Same old tagline from IE4. OR maybe it was IE3. The fact that IE even needs a "protected mode" to be "secure" points to larger problems with the entire handling of security in IE.

The vulnerabilities in IE wouldn't be so bad if they didn't also become windows vulnerabilities due to Windows using the IE DLLs for various functions all around.

"ActiveX controls can only execute when you allow them" except where they circumvent the policy

"the MSJVM protects your PC from malicious java applets" as long as they don't use COM, in which case they can create any COM object they want and use it however they please

This way even a still unknown menace can't do big damages because won't have sufficient rights to write/delete/execute nothing harmful.

the fact that any "menace" can get to the point where it can execute is the problem, not what rights said program has.

[Mulreay]

Same old tagline from IE4. OR maybe it was IE3. The fact that IE even needs a "protected mode" to be "secure" points to larger problems with the entire handling of security in IE.

The vulnerabilities in IE wouldn't be so bad if they didn't also become windows vulnerabilities due to Windows using the IE DLLs for various functions all around.

"ActiveX controls can only execute when you allow them" except where they circumvent the policy

"the MSJVM protects your PC from malicious java applets" as long as they don't use COM, in which case they can create any COM object they want and use it however they please

the fact that any "menace" can get to the point where it can execute is the problem, not what rights said program has.

Hay I was going to say that!