Welcome guest. Before posting on our computer help forum, you must register. Click here it's easy and free.

Author Topic: Installing SATA HDD on ASUS A7V8X-LA Phoenix Award BIOS??  (Read 38118 times)

0 Members and 5 Guests are viewing this topic.

Beedub245

    Topic Starter


    Beginner

    Installing SATA HDD on ASUS A7V8X-LA Phoenix Award BIOS??
    « on: November 09, 2009, 09:27:37 PM »
    The question is in the title.  Is this possible?  My old IDE HDD went down.  I mistakenly purchased a SATA HDD.  After some deliberation I decided to buy the adapter cables and go that route.  Installed everything.  Powered up and HDD is not recognized.  There is not a visible SATA control in my BIOS.  What can I do?  Thanks.

    patio

    • Moderator


    • Genius
    • Maud' Dib
    • Thanked: 1769
      • Yes
    • Experience: Beginner
    • OS: Windows 7
    Re: Installing SATA HDD on ASUS A7V8X-LA Phoenix Award BIOS??
    « Reply #1 on: November 09, 2009, 10:29:24 PM »
    The SATA/RAID drivers will be available at the MBoard manuf. website.
    " Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist should have his head examined. "

    Beedub245

      Topic Starter


      Beginner

      Re: Installing SATA HDD on ASUS A7V8X-LA Phoenix Award BIOS??
      « Reply #2 on: November 10, 2009, 12:56:34 AM »
      I have downloaded the drivers from the MB website.  I can't get them to integrate into my BIOS.  I burned them to disk and tried to do it that way, but I have not been successful.  I also tried to install the driver during the Windows installation and that did not work either.  I am going crazy here.

      Beedub245

        Topic Starter


        Beginner

        Re: Installing SATA HDD on ASUS A7V8X-LA Phoenix Award BIOS??
        « Reply #3 on: November 10, 2009, 02:47:40 AM »
        After a lot of research, I am under the impression that I need a "flash utility"?  It just seems that all of this stuff works from DOS and I have no access to DOS because my old hard drive does not function anymore.  How do I update the bios without being able to get to DOS?  Is it even possible.  I am going to sleep now because I have classes all day tomorrow and will not be able to work on this again until 11:00EST.  Until that time(and after) any and all comments, opinions, and advice is welcomed and greatly appreciated.

        patio

        • Moderator


        • Genius
        • Maud' Dib
        • Thanked: 1769
          • Yes
        • Experience: Beginner
        • OS: Windows 7
        Re: Installing SATA HDD on ASUS A7V8X-LA Phoenix Award BIOS??
        « Reply #4 on: November 10, 2009, 05:48:26 AM »
        They don't get "incorporated " into the BIOS...
        Very early on in the XP install process at the bottom of the screen you will see a prompt "Press F6 to install third party drivers"///
        Press F6 at this point and put in the driver CD...they will install automatically and setup will continue...
        " Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist should have his head examined. "

        Computer_Commando



          Hacker
        • Thanked: 494
        • Certifications: List
        • Computer: Specs
        • Experience: Expert
        • OS: Windows 10

        patio

        • Moderator


        • Genius
        • Maud' Dib
        • Thanked: 1769
          • Yes
        • Experience: Beginner
        • OS: Windows 7
        Re: Installing SATA HDD on ASUS A7V8X-LA Phoenix Award BIOS??
        « Reply #6 on: November 10, 2009, 05:01:53 PM »
        ***sigh***
        " Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist should have his head examined. "

        Beedub245

          Topic Starter


          Beginner

          Re: Installing SATA HDD on ASUS A7V8X-LA Phoenix Award BIOS??
          « Reply #7 on: November 10, 2009, 10:05:13 PM »
          Okay, I am home and back to work... I tried making the driver cd.  I DL'd the manual for my mother board and read all that I could about updating my BIOS.  I made a cd with the following files on it: fasttxt, txtsetup.oem, readme.txt(these 3 files are what was downloaded from the MB website under "RAID"), FLASH.EXE, AFLASH.EXE, BIOS 1015.003, and VIA 4 in 1 Driver Package Service.

          These are the file that I believed the manual said could be necessary.

          Commando... My BIOS does not have an integrated peripherals section... My BIOS looks just like the first screenshot on the first link that you posted just with different things in the boxes.
          System Time
          System Date
          Language               [English(US)]
          Floppy DIskette A   [Not Instlled]

          First Channel Device 0       [None]
          First Channel Device 1       [None]
          Second Channel Device 0  [ASUS     DVD-E6]
          Second Channel Device 1  [TSSTcorpCD-R/R]
          Third Channel Device 0      [None]
          Fourth Channel Device 0   [None

          (all of this below is grayed out)
          Installed Memory                1536 MB/PC2700
          Memory Bank 0                    512 MB/DDR SDRAM
          Memory Bank 1                   1024 MB/DDR SDRAM

          Core Version                         6.0
          BIOS REVISION                    3.15 06/06/2005

          Computer_Commando



            Hacker
          • Thanked: 494
          • Certifications: List
          • Computer: Specs
          • Experience: Expert
          • OS: Windows 10
          Re: Installing SATA HDD on ASUS A7V8X-LA Phoenix Award BIOS??
          « Reply #8 on: November 11, 2009, 11:36:13 AM »
          ...
          System Time
          System Date
          Language               [English(US)]
          Floppy DIskette A   [Not Instlled]

          First Channel Device 0       [None]
          First Channel Device 1       [None]
          Second Channel Device 0  [ASUS     DVD-E6]
          Second Channel Device 1  [TSSTcorpCD-R/R]
          Third Channel Device 0      [None]
          Fourth Channel Device 0   [None]

          (all of this below is grayed out)
          Installed Memory                1536 MB/PC2700
          Memory Bank 0                    512 MB/DDR SDRAM
          Memory Bank 1                   1024 MB/DDR SDRAM

          Core Version                         6.0
          BIOS REVISION                    3.15 06/06/2005
          Change bold items to Auto.

          patio

          • Moderator


          • Genius
          • Maud' Dib
          • Thanked: 1769
            • Yes
          • Experience: Beginner
          • OS: Windows 7
          Re: Installing SATA HDD on ASUS A7V8X-LA Phoenix Award BIOS??
          « Reply #9 on: November 11, 2009, 04:12:03 PM »
          They don't get "incorporated " into the BIOS...
          Very early on in the XP install process at the bottom of the screen you will see a prompt "Press F6 to install third party drivers"///
          Press F6 at this point and put in the driver CD...they will install automatically and setup will continue...
          " Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist should have his head examined. "

          Beedub245

            Topic Starter


            Beginner

            Re: Installing SATA HDD on ASUS A7V8X-LA Phoenix Award BIOS??
            « Reply #10 on: November 12, 2009, 10:13:46 PM »
            I forgot to finish what I was saying after I listed the files that I put on the CD.  Early on it says "press F6 if you need to install...", I pushed F6, it loaded a few things and then says
             "Windows Setup could not determine the type of one or more mass storage devices installed in your system, or you have chosen to manually specify an adapter. Currently, Setup will load support for the following mass storage device(s):
            <none>
            * To specify additional SCSI adapters, CD-ROM drives, or special disk controllers for use with Windows, including those for which you have a device support disk from a mass storage device manufacturer, press S."
            So I press "S" and then it says "Setup could not find a floppy drive on your machine to load OEM drivers from floppy disk."

            I have tried doing this by taking the System Restore disk out and putting in the disk that I made and also by putting the Restore disk in the DVD drive and the disk that I made into the CD-RW drive and I get the same response either way. 

            Thank you for taking the time to try to help me.




            patio

            • Moderator


            • Genius
            • Maud' Dib
            • Thanked: 1769
              • Yes
            • Experience: Beginner
            • OS: Windows 7
            Re: Installing SATA HDD on ASUS A7V8X-LA Phoenix Award BIOS??
            « Reply #11 on: November 13, 2009, 06:35:29 AM »
            How did you make this CD ? ?
            Windows should spot the drivers automatically if it was built correctly...

            BTW you are doing the steps correctly.
            Go ahead and post a link to where the drivers came from...
            " Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist should have his head examined. "

            Beedub245

              Topic Starter


              Beginner

              Re: Installing SATA HDD on ASUS A7V8X-LA Phoenix Award BIOS??
              « Reply #12 on: November 17, 2009, 02:15:25 AM »
              I downloaded the files from http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-us

              I am just writing the files to the cd.  I am not aware of a proper protocol for doing this.

              I am sorry if it takes me a while to respond, but I am in the middle of a pretty tough semester at school and having my PC go down has made things that much more difficult.  I do appreciate all of the advice and opinions that you guys give me.  I hope that this is a problem with a solution, because it is driving me crazy.

              Beedub245

                Topic Starter


                Beginner

                Re: Installing SATA HDD on ASUS A7V8X-LA Phoenix Award BIOS??
                « Reply #13 on: November 23, 2009, 10:30:13 PM »
                Is there some trick to writing this disk?  I will kick myself if I have lost a week all becuase I wasn't putting the files on the disk in the right manner. Thanks

                Computer_Commando



                  Hacker
                • Thanked: 494
                • Certifications: List
                • Computer: Specs
                • Experience: Expert
                • OS: Windows 10
                Re: Installing SATA HDD on ASUS A7V8X-LA Phoenix Award BIOS??
                « Reply #14 on: November 24, 2009, 11:56:00 AM »
                You have an HP with an Asus motherboard.  Any drivers should come from HP, not Asus.  Since the hard drive is not shown in the BIOS, how did you connect it?  You said something about "adapter cables".

                BIOS Setup Utility Information and Menu Options
                Go to Advanced Menu in BIOS:
                Onboard PATA/SATA Adapters -- Both
                Onboard PATA/SATA Configuration -- Enhanced Mode
                F10, Save & Exit, then Back to BIOS Boot Main Menu, verify HDD is shown.
                Now, go to BIOS Boot Menu, verify CD 1st, HDD 2nd.
                F10, Save & Exit
                Install Windows from CD

                Beedub245

                  Topic Starter


                  Beginner

                  Re: Installing SATA HDD on ASUS A7V8X-LA Phoenix Award BIOS??
                  « Reply #15 on: November 24, 2009, 01:13:07 PM »
                  The files that I have downloaded were to update the BIOS with SATA controls, or at least that is what I thought I was doing.  The "adapter cables" are being used because I have SATA inputs, but did not have the cables to connect to my motherboard and I needed an adapter to be able to get power to the drive...  My BIOS does not have any SATA settings currently, that is what I thought I was taking steps to fix.

                  Computer_Commando



                    Hacker
                  • Thanked: 494
                  • Certifications: List
                  • Computer: Specs
                  • Experience: Expert
                  • OS: Windows 10
                  Re: Installing SATA HDD on ASUS A7V8X-LA Phoenix Award BIOS??
                  « Reply #16 on: November 24, 2009, 01:27:10 PM »
                  1.  The files that I have downloaded were to update the BIOS with SATA controls, or at least that is what I thought I was doing.
                  2.  The "adapter cables" are being used because I have SATA inputs, but did not have the cables to connect to my motherboard and I needed an adapter to be able to get power to the drive... 
                  3.  My BIOS does not have any SATA settings currently, that is what I thought I was taking steps to fix.
                  1.  SATA drivers have nothing to do with BIOS updates, they are Windows drivers.
                  2.  Adapter cable was for power only?  SATA data cable is the thin one.
                  3.  SATA shows on the BIOS Main Page as: 
                  Third Channel Device 0      [None]
                  Fourth Channel Device 0   [None]
                  Now go to the Advanced page and then the Boot page.

                  BTW, there is no Asus A7V8X-LA.  I only see A7V8X, A7V8X-MX, A7V8X-MX SE, A7V8X-X
                  Is this a branded computer, i.e. HP, Dell or?
                  « Last Edit: November 24, 2009, 01:40:54 PM by Computer_Commando »

                  Beedub245

                    Topic Starter


                    Beginner

                    Re: Installing SATA HDD on ASUS A7V8X-LA Phoenix Award BIOS??
                    « Reply #17 on: November 25, 2009, 09:15:04 AM »
                    1. Ok.  Thanks for that.  I was confused.  I thought that by running the drivers during the installation that would update the BIOS.
                    2. The adapter cable is for both the power and the MB connections.  The MB had SATA slots but no cable and the power needed to be converted because the Output connection from my power source is different than the input connection on the HDD
                    3.I had no idea that is what was meant by third and fourth channels
                    ** My computer is a HP.
                    ... The advanced menu of my BIOS does not have any reference to SATA.  These are the options and their settings:
                    Plug and Play OS     YES
                    Reset Configuration Data     NO
                    Primary Video Adapter     PCI
                    PS/2 Mouse     AUTO DETECT
                    Onboard 1394     Auto Detect
                    USB Legacy Mode Support     AUTO
                    Onboard LAN      ENABLED
                    Local Bus IDE Adapter     BOTH
                    Onboard Video Memory      AUTO
                    Onboard Audio     AUTO
                    ... Supervisor/ user password     DISABLED

                    I/O Device Configuration
                    Serial Port A     ENABLED
                         Base I/O address     3F8
                         Interrupt     IRQ4
                    Parallel Port     ENABLED
                         Base I/O address     ENABLED
                         Mode     ECP
                         Interrupt     IRQ7

                    patio

                    • Moderator


                    • Genius
                    • Maud' Dib
                    • Thanked: 1769
                      • Yes
                    • Experience: Beginner
                    • OS: Windows 7
                    Re: Installing SATA HDD on ASUS A7V8X-LA Phoenix Award BIOS??
                    « Reply #18 on: November 25, 2009, 09:32:47 AM »
                    Now i'm thoroughly confused...

                    The drive needs a SATA connection to the MBoard or it will not work...
                    As far as power there are Molex to SATA connectors available at any PC store.
                    While you are there get a SATA HDD connector data cable,,,
                    " Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist should have his head examined. "

                    Computer_Commando



                      Hacker
                    • Thanked: 494
                    • Certifications: List
                    • Computer: Specs
                    • Experience: Expert
                    • OS: Windows 10
                    Re: Installing SATA HDD on ASUS A7V8X-LA Phoenix Award BIOS??
                    « Reply #19 on: November 25, 2009, 11:28:46 AM »
                    ...
                    1.  The adapter cable is for both the power and the MB connections.
                    2.  My computer is a HP.
                    3.  The advanced menu of my BIOS does not have any reference to SATA.  These are the options and their settings:
                    Local Bus IDE Adapter     BOTH
                    ...
                    1.  Is this it? 
                    2.  What is exact model number of the HP?
                    3.  Local Bus IDE Adapter:  this may have something to do with SATA, see what other setting besides BOTH.

                    jazz4brains



                      Greenhorn

                      Re: Installing SATA HDD on ASUS A7V8X-LA Phoenix Award BIOS??
                      « Reply #20 on: November 25, 2009, 01:22:25 PM »
                      I just came across the following discussion:

                      http://www.geekstogo.com/forum/wd1600-sata-drivers-Asus-A7v8x-LA-Board-t125407.html

                      It seems that this mobo has SATA I, not SATA II ports.
                      Looks like you have to set a jumper on newer hard drives (SATA II), to force them
                      to run at the slower 1.5Gbits/sec speed of SATA I.


                      Computer_Commando



                        Hacker
                      • Thanked: 494
                      • Certifications: List
                      • Computer: Specs
                      • Experience: Expert
                      • OS: Windows 10
                      Re: Installing SATA HDD on ASUS A7V8X-LA Phoenix Award BIOS??
                      « Reply #21 on: November 25, 2009, 06:12:11 PM »
                      I just came across the following discussion:
                      http://www.geekstogo.com/forum/wd1600-sata-drivers-Asus-A7v8x-LA-Board-t125407.html
                      It seems that this mobo has SATA I, not SATA II ports.
                      Looks like you have to set a jumper on newer hard drives (SATA II), to force them
                      to run at the slower 1.5Gbits/sec speed of SATA I.
                      I was gonna say:  Nice Find
                      However, it's baloney, read this from WD:
                      http://www.wdc.com/en/library/eide/2579-001037.pdf
                      The SATA jumpers are only for "spread spectrum clocking feature enabled or disabled".

                      However, unlikely as it seems, it's possible that even though this motherboard has SATA connectors, they have been rendered inoperable by HP.

                      jazz4brains



                        Greenhorn

                        Re: Installing SATA HDD on ASUS A7V8X-LA Phoenix Award BIOS??
                        « Reply #22 on: November 25, 2009, 08:52:11 PM »
                        According to the Western Digital pdf file:

                        "OPT 1: 150MB/s data transfer enabled or disabled. Default setting is disabled. To enable
                        150MB/s data transfer speed, place a jumper on pins 5-6."


                        Beedub245

                          Topic Starter


                          Beginner

                          Re: Installing SATA HDD on ASUS A7V8X-LA Phoenix Award BIOS??
                          « Reply #23 on: November 25, 2009, 09:16:04 PM »
                          1.The picture that is posted is exactly what I have installed.
                          2.  The exact model of HP is HP Pavillion a800n
                          3. The other settings for Local Bus IDE adapter are : Disabled, Primary, Secondary, and Both.
                              ** As I said earlier it is currently set on both.**
                          --The item in the picture that you posted is what I have been referring to as "the adapter".  It is connected to the HDD and the power source.
                          -- I had already read the information about the jumper settings and I currently have a shunt on the 5-6 pins.  Should I remove it?

                          Computer_Commando



                            Hacker
                          • Thanked: 494
                          • Certifications: List
                          • Computer: Specs
                          • Experience: Expert
                          • OS: Windows 10
                          Re: Installing SATA HDD on ASUS A7V8X-LA Phoenix Award BIOS??
                          « Reply #24 on: November 26, 2009, 02:51:37 PM »
                          ...-- I had already read the information about the jumper settings and I currently have a shunt on the 5-6 pins.  Should I remove it?
                          It can't hurt, let us know if it works.

                          jazz4brains



                            Greenhorn

                            Re: Installing SATA HDD on ASUS A7V8X-LA Phoenix Award BIOS??
                            « Reply #25 on: November 27, 2009, 01:06:19 PM »
                            The following thread is relevant, especially the last entry:

                            http://forums.techguy.org/all-other-software/483231-sata-drivers.html

                            It is the same mobo in a Compaq computer.
                            Hope it is helpful.