Author Topic: windows 7 prof 64 bit. (Read 19552 times)

nitelife2989 · « **on:** December 20, 2009, 06:07:51 PM »

I am thinking of ordering window 7 64 bit prof and was wondering if anyone could tell me there personal experiences with it and weather its recommended. i mean i can read what micro soft says about it but we all know its useless. im mainly looking to use it for gaming and running multi apps at one time. so if you would share that would be much appreciated.

kpac · « **Reply #1 on:** December 21, 2009, 07:38:14 AM »

How much RAM do you have?

nitelife2989 · « **Reply #2 on:** December 21, 2009, 07:44:59 AM »

it will be 4GB and i would still have 2 extra slots for more RAM

kpac · « **Reply #3 on:** December 21, 2009, 08:09:21 AM »

You should be set to go, so. I haven't used to Pro version, but I'm using Ultimate at the moment. I can't fault it. I'm not sure of the differences between the two, but there isn't much in the price anyway.

patio · « **Reply #4 on:** December 21, 2009, 08:11:50 AM »

I've been running the 64bit ver of Ultimate from the Beta...thru the RC and now the final build and i would recommend it to anyone...

Although i will add a Disclaimer...i don't do that much gaming.
You may want to consider a dual-boot option with XP and Win7.....
This can be setup on either seperate HDD's and /or partitions...

nitelife2989 · « **Reply #5 on:** December 21, 2009, 09:05:01 PM »

how does the 32 bit compare to the 64 bit?

patio · « **Reply #6 on:** December 21, 2009, 09:14:32 PM »

They're identical except for performance....
Though there are very few of them the apps that are written to take advantage of the 64bit enviornment are noticeably snappier.

Geriden · « **Reply #7 on:** December 22, 2009, 06:54:05 AM »

Quote from: nitelife2989 on December 21, 2009, 09:05:01 PM

how does the 32 bit compare to the 64 bit?

32bit can only utilize 3.5gb of RAM making 64bit potential performance significantly better.

As for windows 7 64bit, i personally cant fault it, love it, perfect for a hardcore gamer with exellent compatibility

BC_Programmer · « **Reply #8 on:** December 22, 2009, 07:18:26 AM »

Quote from: Geriden on December 22, 2009, 06:54:05 AM

32bit can only utilize 3.5gb of RAM making 64bit potential performance significantly better.

As for windows 7 64bit, i personally cant fault it, love it, perfect for a hardcore gamer with exellent compatibility

32-bit CAN utilize more RAM but microsoft won't let it

the actual amount that is usable varies, too. additionally, for RAM amounts < 3.5GB, the fact that x64 can utilize more RAM doesn't really help performance, since, well, the RAM isn't there.

kpac · « **Reply #9 on:** December 22, 2009, 11:13:35 AM »

http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php/topic,96532.0.html

nitelife2989 · « **Reply #10 on:** December 23, 2009, 09:57:56 PM »

I now have Windows 7... On major problem my system keeps restarting at random times. is that windows or what?

patio · « **Reply #11 on:** December 24, 2009, 09:26:12 AM »

With that much info to go on this may take some time...

nitelife2989 · « **Reply #12 on:** December 24, 2009, 09:48:21 AM »

additional info....

Restarting at random times (cant figure out a pattern)

Brand New PC
custom made
i5 motherboard
2GB ram
enermax phoenix neo case
9800 GTX video card
1 TB HDD

any specific Info you want please ask

patio · « **Reply #13 on:** December 24, 2009, 09:53:12 AM »

PSU make and wattage ? ?

nitelife2989 · « **Reply #14 on:** December 24, 2009, 10:01:12 AM »

OCZ Fatal1ty Series Power Supply - 700-Watt

patio · « **Reply #15 on:** December 24, 2009, 10:07:55 AM »

In Control Panel/System/Hardware/Device Manager shut off "auto re-start on errors"....

Then post the BSOD message including the gibberish.

Boozu · « **Reply #16 on:** December 24, 2009, 10:12:26 AM »

Have you used any of these part in a different system or are they all new?

nitelife2989 · « **Reply #17 on:** December 24, 2009, 10:29:53 AM »

They are all brand new Parts i got them on 12-22-09

patio · « **Reply #18 on:** December 24, 2009, 10:36:57 AM »

DLoad install and run SpeedFan and post your temps...

nitelife2989 · « **Reply #19 on:** December 24, 2009, 10:46:11 AM »

All in degrees Celsius

GPU-42
HDD-26
core 0 - 43 during installing games can reach 79
core 1- 40
core 2 - 42
core 3- 48

just waiting on BSOD now that i want it i cant have it lol

Boozu · « **Reply #20 on:** December 24, 2009, 10:49:53 AM »

You may have not installed the CPU cooler properly. Did you use the stock cooler? Did you plug in the fan? I really hope that answer to the second one is yes.

nitelife2989 · « **Reply #21 on:** December 24, 2009, 10:53:57 AM »

stock cooler, it is pluged in. i didnt have to add thermal gel was aready on it

Boozu · « **Reply #22 on:** December 24, 2009, 11:00:22 AM »

Go into your bios and check what the voltage is on the CPU. What is the model of the MOBO?

patio · « **Reply #23 on:** December 24, 2009, 11:01:07 AM »

Thermal Paste Guide...

nitelife2989 · « **Reply #24 on:** December 24, 2009, 11:13:36 AM »

when i took out the stock CPU cooler there was 3 lines of gray compounds (heatsink) do i need to add more to it?
when it restarts i can just be surfing the internet which shouldn't heat it up that much to where it should shut down...

Boozu · « **Reply #25 on:** December 24, 2009, 11:15:45 AM »

Patio their is paste on the stock cooler already and I REALLY dout that is is so bad as to cause the CPU to go up to 79C just installing a game. My i5 is at full load right now (Folding@Home) and it is at 55C (with the stock cooler.). I have lowered my voltage a tiny bit so at stock it would be ~60C so for a game install to make it go almost 80 is insane.

nitelife check how much load you CPU is under wile installing a game. Click start and search resource monitor. Click on the CPU tab then install a game and watch the load.

Boozu · « **Reply #26 on:** December 24, 2009, 11:17:52 AM »

In that case you may have a falty MOBO.

nitelife2989 · « **Reply #27 on:** December 24, 2009, 11:27:26 AM »

while i was installing there under total there was a blue like that was spiked all over not sure what it was but the total CPU Usage was very low like 20%

nitelife2989 · « **Reply #28 on:** December 24, 2009, 11:32:16 AM »

half way through the PC crashed. I have auto restart disabled and it still restarted....

nitelife2989 · « **Reply #29 on:** December 24, 2009, 09:56:41 PM »

well you said it could be a faulty motherboard so im putting it to the test... I got another hard drive with XP and im going to see if it resets on me or not. If so i know the problem ( WINDOWS 7) if not you may be right faulty motherboard. i Talked to a few friends with windows 7 and they all said "windows 7 is *censored*" they all tell me about how it just randomly restarts, and how after a month it just goes to a blue screen. Im starting to think microsoft is screwing us over. personally, Im sick of there new OS. XP was almost perfect Vista was TERRIBLE and some how they made windows 7 and it is THE WORST OS EVER....

Please share your thoughts on this

Im starting to lose hope in Microsoft.....

BC_Programmer · « **Reply #30 on:** December 24, 2009, 10:30:54 PM »

Quote from: nitelife2989 on December 24, 2009, 09:56:41 PM

well you said it could be a faulty motherboard so im putting it to the test... I got another hard drive with XP and im going to see if it resets on me or not. If so i know the problem ( WINDOWS 7) if not you may be right faulty motherboard. i Talked to a few friends with windows 7 and they all said "windows 7 is *censored*" they all tell me about how it just randomly restarts, and how after a month it just goes to a blue screen. Im starting to think microsoft is screwing us over. personally, Im sick of there new OS. XP was almost perfect Vista was TERRIBLE and some how they made windows 7 and it is THE WORST OS EVER....

Your friends are suffering from "OMGZ! IS DIFFRENT!" syndrome. And if they don't want it to bluescreen they should have read the god *censored* download page that stated it was a evaluation copy.

When XP was released, you know what people thought?

XP sucks *censored*, windows 98SE is the bestest"

I mean, for god's sake, people are flipping out because MS changed the name of "Add/Remove programs" to "programs and features" It's a *censored* of a lot better then calling it "Add/Remove/Modify/Repair Programs", and it's certainly not a problem for somebody who hasn't got into the habit of looking for Add/Remove programs.

And then they *censored* and complain about Aero, using completely uninformed "facts" that don't seem to take into account that people were bitching and complaining about the way windows were drawn on-screen. *censored*, none of the Vista/Windows 7 haters seem to have a big beef with something that is trivially unimportant.

Windows Crashes? That sucks. Maybe you should learn how to maintain your PC, instead of simply trying to delegate the blame to something else. On the other hand, MS wouldn't want your business because a good percentage of the people bitching and complaining would just pirate it anyway. heck, half the people who have it and are complaining are using a pirated copy, and they wonder where all the trojans come from and why it crashes. Some people simply can't add 2+2, and when you need somebody to come along and explain that the problem is really 1+1+1+1, then you know there's a mental barrier to overcome.

nitelife2989 · « **Reply #31 on:** December 25, 2009, 10:59:45 AM »

Maintain a PC HA its brand new 2 days old all it has on it is wndows 7. so explain this, if my pc is at fault then why when i put a new HDD in it works with a hitch. Windows XP has faults yes but it didnt restarting on its own till 6 years later. Windows 7 BRAND NEW and restarting on its own. so unless you can come up with a explination (ex. faulty software) then i Blame windows 7 programing. And i Do know how to Maintain and Fix a PC so dont give me that crap. I took My Brothers Pc of 10 years old loaded with viruses and made it run as good as new with out reinstalling windows.

kpac · « **Reply #32 on:** December 25, 2009, 11:16:58 AM »

Quote from: nitelife2989 on December 25, 2009, 10:59:45 AM

Windows 7 BRAND NEW and restarting on its own.

Mine doesn't.

nitelife2989 · « **Reply #33 on:** December 25, 2009, 11:34:54 AM »

i reinstalled it 6 times so far and it always restarts.... so is there any particular way you did it?

patio · « **Reply #34 on:** December 25, 2009, 12:41:38 PM »

I run both the 32bit and 64bit ver. of Win7 on 2 different machines and have zero issues...
I've also done approx. 25 customer installs and have the same results.

If i missed it i apologise but where is thei Ver. of Win7 from ? ?

nitelife2989 · « **Reply #35 on:** December 25, 2009, 12:54:31 PM »

kinda curious why everyone talking crap saying windows 7 is fine and its just the user, then why do none of them have windows 7. i see alot of XP and vista......

patio · « **Reply #36 on:** December 25, 2009, 12:56:39 PM »

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I run both the 32bit and 64bit ver. of Win7 on 2 different machines and have zero issues...

BC_Programmer · « **Reply #37 on:** December 25, 2009, 04:08:40 PM »

I upgraded my laptop From 7 to Vista, just so I could tty 7 outside of VMWare (VMWare simply didn't do it justice).

We can narrow it down to your PC simply because YOUR THE ONE WITH THE ISSUE it's pretty easy. and Evidently, since replacing the HD did not fix the problem, it is with your hardware, such as a faulty mobo or other device, or the drivers for said device. (For example- did you install al motherboard drivers and proper video drivers and so forth)

additionally yo usay that your going to put the "faulty motherboard" theory to the test, and then state that somehow, replacing the hard drive will confirm it to be windows 7 if it still has the issue... err, that simply doesn't make sense. when you replace a hard drive, your still using the same motherboard, which, if it has issues, will still have them.

kpac · « **Reply #38 on:** December 25, 2009, 04:24:46 PM »

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i see alot of XP and vista......

Yes, people put their primary OS in there.

BC_Programmer · « **Reply #39 on:** December 25, 2009, 04:25:19 PM »

Quote from: kpac on December 25, 2009, 04:24:46 PM

Yes, people put their primary OS in there.

heh, I'm not even running XP except in a VM. I really should change that...

nitelife2989 · « **Reply #40 on:** December 25, 2009, 08:53:16 PM »

LET ME CLAIRFY FOR EVERYONE......... FIRST i replaced the HDD and it DID work perfectly, no restarts. The HDD with 7 on it was put in another PC and Failed again and again and again. sick of people acting like you know your when you dont... if your just going to be a then please dont post on this paticulay fourm. I am not the only person with this Error.

and thank you very much to thoese of you helping with this issue.

Post edited for content...keep it clean.

BC_Programmer · « **Reply #41 on:** December 25, 2009, 09:12:56 PM »

Quote from: nitelife2989 on December 25, 2009, 08:53:16 PM

LET ME CLAIRFY FOR EVERYONE......... FIRST i replaced the HDD and it DID work perfectly, no restarts. The HDD with 7 on it was put in another PC and Failed again and again and again. sick of people acting like you know your *censored* when you dont... if your just going to be a *censored* then please dont post on this paticulay fourm. I am not the only person with this Error.

and thank you very much to thoese of you helping with this issue.

Did the hard drive already have windows 7 installed on it? If so, that's the cause.

you can't just take an HD with a NT variant of Windows installed and put it in another Computer. Well, you <can> but it results in issues, such as those you are experiencing. In this case, it's not the hardware at all, but rather the fact that the configuration of the PC has changed. Normally this results in a prompt for re-activation, too. (although I haven't actually witnessed this with anything after XP).

I just installed A new copy of windows 7 Ultimate to my brothers PC, since I couldn't be bothered to figure out why his copy of Vista Home Premium decided it was no longer genuine. So far so good, just have to restore his small assortment of data files and applications, and he should be good to go.

I can say with some certainty that moving the hard drive with an installed copy of 7 in it might be the cause. Have you done a clean install while the HDD is in the "target" computer?

nitelife2989 · « **Reply #42 on:** December 25, 2009, 09:30:32 PM »

The HDD was brand new and windows 7 was the only software ever put on it (3 days ago). i Downloaded a HDD checker and am checking it for errors maybe ill find something.

BC_Programmer · « **Reply #43 on:** December 25, 2009, 09:39:41 PM »

Oh: just thought:

you say it fails/restarts; this sounds like it could be a Blue-Screen, but since Windows is configured to restart when this occurs, only the PC restarting is seen.

If it is a BSOD, the data it contains might be helpful- you can disable automatic restart:

1.Right Click My Computer->Properties
2.Select "advanced System Settings"
3.select the "Advanced" tab
4. click the "settings" button in the "Startup and Recovery" area.
5. one of the checkboxes here should be "automatically restart"- uncheck it. Next time it restarts, if it was a BSOD you will in fact get a BSOD- copy down what it says (namely, the STOP code, and the file causing the issue.)

Another thing to try, is it might have written the events to the eventlog, I'd take a gander in there (well, personally I'd leave the duck outside hahahahaha) and see if you can find anything relevant. You can get to the eventlog by using Windows key+R and entering "eventvwr.msc" Don't ask how to find it, The new event viewer gives me a headache.

nitelife2989 · « **Reply #44 on:** December 26, 2009, 02:21:18 PM »

Auto restart is off but it still restarts on its own. i looked in the event log and the only critical and consistant error is event 41 kermel-power every time it shut down that paticular error was present. idk if it tell you anything or not.

nitelife2989 · « **Reply #45 on:** December 26, 2009, 02:28:55 PM »

Just found this...
error discription

The file system structure on the disk is corrupt and unusable. Please run the chkdsk utility on the volume \Device\HarddiskVolume2.

does that mean that the HDD could be faulty and not the software?there is hundreds of them.

patio · « **Reply #46 on:** December 26, 2009, 03:29:47 PM »

No.....
It's probably Windows7 who you've been blaming all along.

BTW i'm suprised you even got this much assistance with the snooty attitude you started with...

Like mentioning we have no idea what we're doing here etc.

On top of the fact Win7 was installed on another machine and then swapped into this one ...

Best of Luck.

nitelife2989 · « **Reply #47 on:** December 26, 2009, 04:09:06 PM »

i wasnt being snooty as you put it. just certian people (not you ) werent helping and just saying oh its you. and i didnt say everyone didnt know, actually most of you know your stuff really well which is nice. any you got to realize how frustrating this is. i mean i spend a thousand dollars or more to get this computer and a stupid little problem is making this a waste of money.

patio · « **Reply #48 on:** December 26, 2009, 04:19:47 PM »

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If i missed it i apologise but where is thei Ver. of Win7 from ? ?

Never answered...there are documented cases of this happening from a certain Vendor which is why i asked...

nitelife2989 · « **Reply #49 on:** December 26, 2009, 04:22:54 PM »

all the parts are bought from tigerdirect.com

the Windows i Have happens to be a OEM

patio · « **Reply #50 on:** December 26, 2009, 04:27:04 PM »

From Where ? ?

nitelife2989 · « **Reply #51 on:** December 26, 2009, 04:29:00 PM »

the software was bought off of tigerdirect.com (i know dumb to order off line)

patio · « **Reply #52 on:** December 26, 2009, 05:09:44 PM »

When you say OEM do you mean it shipped with a system ? ?
You also need to determine if it was originally from Digital River...

nitelife2989 · « **Reply #53 on:** December 26, 2009, 05:18:23 PM »

i didnt know what OEM was till today. a friend told me that its the same as windows but not supported by microsoft. dont fully understand yet.
and how do i tell where it was originally from only thing i can find on the case is printed in canada

on the box i just noticed it says 'OEM sysem builder Pack intended for System builders only" www.microsoft.com/oem/
dont know if that makes a diffrence or not

nate22 · « **Reply #54 on:** December 26, 2009, 06:50:52 PM »

Nite, I'm currently in the same situation as you right now. I came up with a possible PSU myself. I also turned to Windows Vista AND Windows 7 when things went downhill. I think that all stemmed from the flood of reports from so many MS consumers. I honestly thought my system was a waste also. I understand your frustration. I was also frustrated to such a point that i wanted to through the computer right out the second story window. What i did is put the computer on the side burner for awhile before the computer's issues consumed my life. I am not back trying to solve my PC's issues. Hopefully i get things sorted out myself. Best of luck to you in your pursuit to fix your machine.

P.S.- After stepping back and reflection upon my less then perfect situation i realized that the same guys that are here helping you out now taught me so much about the steps that are necessary to diagnose an issues within a computer. Their trying to teach us both the basic lessons of computer hardware for FREE!

nitelife2989 · « **Reply #55 on:** December 27, 2009, 05:53:48 PM »

thank you for your sharing your experience nate. i did a Few final test and concluded that the software and HDD and power supply are all in working order. as BOOZU stated in a previous message it may be a Faulty motherboard so I sent the Motherboard back with the CPU and i will find out in 2 days if that was the issue...

This is by far the best computer help forum ive been on.

Thank you everyone for all your help

kpac · « **Reply #56 on:** December 29, 2009, 05:30:35 AM »

Just to add a bit of info, I use an OEM version. So do many people. With OEM versions you only get the version of Windows you choose, i.e. 32 or 64 bit, but with the normal version you get both 32 and 64 bit.

nitelife2989 · « **Reply #57 on:** December 30, 2009, 07:04:25 PM »

thats good to know, as i didnt even know what OEM was.

As for my PC i replaces the Motherboard and processor and the PC has been on for 22 hours with out restarting. it appears my issue was fixed.

thank you all again.

my computer · « **Reply #58 on:** December 30, 2009, 08:16:42 PM »

itis very nice

neelchauhan · « **Reply #59 on:** January 02, 2010, 05:38:25 PM »

I guess Windows 7 Professional will suit you perfectly. I will use this exact OS on my next PC Build (If I choose to build a PC).
To make preformance smoother, add 2GB extra of RAM.

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