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    Explorer crashing
    « on: December 25, 2009, 10:52:24 AM »
     I have been encountering sporadic crashes with Windows 7 64 bit since I got my new computer. I can't find a pattern to the crashes, but when the first crash happens, almost any operation will trigger another crash (closing a window, opening a new window, right-clicking the desktop...) I opened event viewer to find the problem, and it looks like two files are at fault:

     The first and most prevalent error is this:

    Faulting application name: Explorer.EXE, version: 6.1.7600.16404, time stamp: 0x4a765771
    Faulting module name: ntdll.dll, version: 6.1.7600.16385, time stamp: 0x4a5be02b
    Exception code: 0xc0000005
    Fault offset: 0x0000000000051da0
    Faulting process id: 0x2110
    Faulting application start time: 0x01ca85886c8e2a1f
    Faulting application path: C:\Windows\Explorer.EXE
    Faulting module path: C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll
    Report Id: e6e8d8f1-f17b-11de-a511-0025648c86e8


    But, it also has these errors:
    Faulting application name: Explorer.EXE, version: 6.1.7600.16404, time stamp: 0x4a765771
    Faulting module name: msvcrt.dll, version: 7.0.7600.16385, time stamp: 0x4a5bdfbe
    Exception code: 0xc000041d
    Fault offset: 0x000000000000120b
    Faulting process id: 0x1df0
    Faulting application start time: 0x01ca858a259d16d8
    Faulting application path: C:\Windows\Explorer.EXE
    Faulting module path: C:\Windows\system32\msvcrt.dll
    Report Id: 87d88813-f17d-11de-a511-0025648c86e8

    I have no idea what the problem could be, so any help would be great. Let me know if more info is needed...

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    Re: Explorer crashing
    « Reply #1 on: December 25, 2009, 12:52:11 PM »
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    since I got my new computer
    Return it.

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      Re: Explorer crashing
      « Reply #2 on: December 25, 2009, 03:05:54 PM »
      Both those files are essential Windows files and shouldn't be causing problems.  Like Broni said, take it back.

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      Re: Explorer crashing
      « Reply #3 on: December 25, 2009, 04:28:08 PM »
      Yes, it's almost certainly a problem with RAM, something not worth investigating with a new PC.
      I was trying to dereference Null Pointers before it was cool.

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        Re: Explorer crashing
        « Reply #4 on: December 26, 2009, 11:05:24 AM »
         So the error codes indicate that the RAM is at fault? I'm just curious as to what is causing is causing the problem, since I have done a memory diagnostics test, and it claimed to find no problems.

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        Re: Explorer crashing
        « Reply #5 on: December 26, 2009, 11:10:54 AM »
        Windows test ? ?
        Or MemTest ?
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          Re: Explorer crashing
          « Reply #6 on: December 26, 2009, 12:44:03 PM »
          I used the windows repair mode memory test and MemTest86+ 4.0. Both returned no errors.

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          Re: Explorer crashing
          « Reply #7 on: December 26, 2009, 12:49:48 PM »
          Then it's not the Memory...
          How old is this install and what protection apps do you run ?
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            Re: Explorer crashing
            « Reply #8 on: December 26, 2009, 05:43:22 PM »
            I use avast! and AVG. They both run at the same time, so could this be the problem?

             This install is about 2 weeks old, but the problem has persisted since about the second day I turned it on, which was after I installed virus protection...

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            Re: Explorer crashing
            « Reply #9 on: December 26, 2009, 05:45:17 PM »
            Yep.
            Rule of Thumb is you should only have 1 A/V app at any time and NEVER run them both at once...
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              Re: Explorer crashing
              « Reply #10 on: December 26, 2009, 05:50:03 PM »
               So, the programs were interfering with the memory somehow? I can see how file-scanning when something is opened could cause conflict, but I never really thought about it.

               I know this might not be the best place to ask, but which one should I get rid of? The only reason I installed AVG was because I found out that avast! did not have a firewall. Do you think AVG is strong enough to be my only virus protection?

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              Re: Explorer crashing
              « Reply #11 on: December 26, 2009, 05:59:09 PM »
              Personal preference is all it comes down to...
              Forget one of them and keep the other.

              There are FREE firewalls out there to try if you feel you really need one...
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              Re: Explorer crashing
              « Reply #12 on: December 27, 2009, 08:30:12 AM »
              You should also check whether you have WinDefender running in the background.
              Note; It does not show up in "Add/remove programs'.
              Try disabling it; apparently it does not play well with other AV software.
              I have also found that switching from AVG to AntiVir resulted in a lot less application errors on my system; I'm running Win7 Ultimate, by the way; so take this for what it's worth.