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Ethernet cables to replace HDMI ? ?
« on: July 03, 2010, 08:45:55 AM »
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Re: Ethernet cables to replace HDMI ? ?
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2010, 09:39:55 AM »
I read an article a while back that HDMI was to replace Ethernet cables.

I suppose this would be more beneficial, what with more devices having ethernet ports than HDMI ports.

But then, would you need two ethernet ports, or could the TV share the connection?

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Re: Ethernet cables to replace HDMI ? ?
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2010, 09:48:24 AM »
According to the article it will do both power and bandwidth...
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Re: Ethernet cables to replace HDMI ? ?
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2010, 10:13:12 AM »
I read that article and find it hard to believe yo can do 10 Gbps in copper wires up to a 100 feet. But big guys like Jupiter says that and a lot more.
http://www.techspot.com/news/35020-juniper-intros-worlds-first-100gbps-ethernet-interface.html
Now when they do that. might as well forget about having a computer. Everybody will have a 'cloud' appliance.

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Re: Ethernet cables to replace HDMI ? ?
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2010, 10:20:54 AM »
I personally dislike cloud services. Who you gonna call when your data goes missing? Ghostbusters?

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Re: Ethernet cables to replace HDMI ? ?
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2010, 11:00:27 AM »
Carbon Dudeoxide, our world is already so complex and interwoven that a failure anywhere has some impact on us all.If  Giga Bytes of data goes down in one place , you may not be able to call anybody. The whole system will go down. Do you remember years ago when New York City went black?

The point is this: When any connection to the rest of the world is 10 times faster than any  hard drive storage, few people will bother having mass storage devices on their personal computers. And nobody will do backups, except you and me. And I am not sure about you.

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Re: Ethernet cables to replace HDMI ? ?
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2010, 11:48:17 AM »
I personally dislike cloud services. Who you gonna call when your data goes missing? Ghostbusters?

What about having your data striped across multiple locations with parity blocks generated and stored locally and elsewhere?

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Re: Ethernet cables to replace HDMI ? ?
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2010, 12:17:40 PM »
I'm talking about things like phones and mobile devices. I remember a while back T-Mobile (i think it was them) lost a bunch of user's contacts and messages due to a server failure. That's the kind of cloud computing I was talking about.

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Re: Ethernet cables to replace HDMI ? ?
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2010, 08:02:44 PM »
It was T-Mobile that had a large data and service loss last year.

I just read an article yesterday that predicted T-Mobile would be one of the companies that would be gone before the end of 2010.  I'm sure the outage had something to do with their problems.

To have an outage like that it had to be a lack of planning, poor back up, and too much emphasis on marketing and not enough on engineering.

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Re: Ethernet cables to replace HDMI ? ?
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2010, 08:15:51 PM »
None of this has anything to do with the article....
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Re: Ethernet cables to replace HDMI ? ?
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2010, 08:32:07 PM »
True.  Somehow it got off on the subject of cloud computing.

Back to HDMI cables.

I feel like the connectors on cat 5 or 6 cables are more secure than HDMI.  I've had HDMI cables get pulled loose a few times when moving stuff around.  Much less likely to happen with RJ-45 connectors.  And cat 5 and 6 cables are easy to connectorize.  I've never seen a connector kit for HDMI cables.

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Re: Ethernet cables to replace HDMI ? ?
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2010, 09:01:12 PM »

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Re: Ethernet cables to replace HDMI ? ?
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2010, 09:11:32 AM »
Does sound promising and I do like the idea of keeping with Cat wiring although a reader did make an interesting point in the article.

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Great in theory... As long as there is some protection from accidentally connecting the wrong cables into the wrong RJ-45 sockets. I mean, what could go wrong with pumping 100W into an ethernet hub that isn't wired to take that kind of power?

I know from experience that users have enough issues distinguishing between RJ-45 and RJ-11, whose to say they could identify supported networking equipment and not plug a powered Cat5 wire into a non-supported device or worse a computer. Although maybe there are methods of preventing / protecting this from happen I'm not aware of. Don't have much experience with power going over Cat5e/6.
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Re: Ethernet cables to replace HDMI ? ?
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2010, 09:19:41 AM »
Color coding would work...but it's far from idiot-proof...
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Re: Ethernet cables to replace HDMI ? ?
« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2010, 09:39:11 AM »
Color coding would work...but it's far from idiot-proof...

Definitely something that could help. But could be a lot more difficult with Cat5 cabling since there are already so many different colors of cables. In my home alone I have red, blue, black, yellow, and white Cat5 cabling. I think the best solution after thinking about it would be to key the RJ-45 connector if it posed a threat to other hardware.
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