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Vista Upgrade
« on: March 23, 2011, 11:48:38 PM »
When attempting to upgrade from Win XP Professional Service Pack 3 MCE to Vista Home Premium I receive a message as follows; Windows cannot determine if another operating system exists on your computer. Try repairing boot configuration and then begin the installation again.

I've shown my current Boot.ini file directly below and below my current file I've shown what Microsoft Support calls a Sample Boot.ini file.
If I configure my current Boot.ini file to read exactly as the Sample Boot.ini file, will this allow me to continue the installation, or are other additions required, or?. Also please note; timeout =3 vs timeout =30 ??
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My current Boot.ini file.

[boot loader]
timeout=3
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
C:\CMDCONS\BOOTSECT.DAT="Microsoft Windows Recovery Console" /cmdcons
UnsupportedDebug="do not select this" /debug
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Windows XP Media Center Edition" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect

 Sample Boot.ini file.

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Windows XP Media Center Edition" /fastdetect











             

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Re: Vista Upgrade
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2011, 03:00:05 AM »
Try it with no boot.ini file.


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Re: Vista Upgrade
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2011, 03:14:02 AM »
to upgrade an OS you need to run the installer from <within> the OS you are trying to upgrade.

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Re: Vista Upgrade
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2011, 05:36:34 AM »
Try it with no boot.ini file.
Ignore this suggestion. Follow BC's advice.

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Re: Vista Upgrade
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2011, 08:25:34 AM »
to upgrade an OS you need to run the installer from <within> the OS you are trying to upgrade.


Thanks. The message (Windows cannot determine etc.,as above) is initiated when I attempt to run the setup from within Windows. overthehill


             

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Re: Vista Upgrade
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2011, 08:31:37 AM »
Okay, then just delete these two lines:

C:\CMDCONS\BOOTSECT.DAT="Microsoft Windows Recovery Console" /cmdcons
UnsupportedDebug="do not select this" /debug


The upgrade is probably trying to figure out what the Recovery Console boot option is. And since Vista doesn't have a recovery console the line would be obsolete anyway.

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Re: Vista Upgrade
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2011, 08:35:53 AM »

Okay, then just delete these two lines:

C:\CMDCONS\BOOTSECT.DAT="Microsoft Windows Recovery Console" /cmdcons
UnsupportedDebug="do not select this" /debug


The upgrade is probably trying to figure out what the Recovery Console boot option is. And since Vista doesn't have a recovery console the line would be obsolete anyway.

Thanks Allan. I'll give that a shot.overthehill


             

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« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2011, 01:55:19 PM »
Thanks Allan. I'll give that a shot. overthehill

Update. Took your advice Allan and that did the trick, Thanks.

But now that I got past that, and quite a few other things, I'm hoping that someone can help me with another concern or two with my "Vista Upgrade". This time regarding "sound". Quite a long read but I'd like to explain.

I'll start here; after noticing the little speaker in the Task Bar had a red X, I checked in Device Manager for my sound card device (SigmaTel High Definition Audio CODEC) which was there. Next I downloaded a "Vista" driver from SigmaTel and the red X in the Task Bar was gone. Thought my problem was cured. Next, I attempted to play a tune in Winamp , the app.ran but no sound. I played with the speaker and headphones to PC cables and found that when I plug either into the (blue) port I now hear the sound nicely?. The next thing that I did was to go back into Device Manager and it appears that (SigmaTel High Definition Audio CODEC) has been replaced by High Definition Audio Device. (I've attached two png.files that show this.)
The other thing that you will notice under Other Devices is; FCDABIOS (2003) device EnumeratorOO has a yellow flag. This same file ,(only shown in 2.png)is also in System Devices and there the file appears OK?
I have no idea what the FCDA etc. file is? Can't find a driver anywhere for it when asked. Couldn't find anything in Google either?. I have received a desk top message telling me that something is wrong with this file.

Getting back to SigmaTel. I found the folder and tried to run "setup" and I receive the message; Error, Reason Unknown?

I've been wondering at times if maybe I should have stuck with XP ;D. Seriously though, if I can get this stuff straightened out, "Vista" looks OK :).

Anyway, any suggestions on this?. Thanks, overthehill

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Re: Vista Upgrade
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2011, 02:27:35 PM »
After installing Vista did you install all Vista compatible drivers, starting with the chipset driver?

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« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2011, 02:45:53 PM »
After installing Vista did you install all Vista compatible drivers, starting with the chipset driver?

Thanks Geek. No I didn't because it was strictly an upgrade. 99% of everything transferred over OK. Is this the 1% that didn't. I didn't go for a clean install because I didn't want to have to reload everything. overthehill


             

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« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2011, 03:06:52 PM »
You need to download and install Vista compatible drivers, starting with the chipset driver. Get the drivers from the OEM websites, not from Windows Update. And I'm not Geek.

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Re: Vista Upgrade
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2011, 03:22:47 PM »
You need to download and install Vista compatible drivers, starting with the chipset driver. Get the drivers from the OEM websites, not from Windows Update. And I'm not Geek.
 
Thanks Allan and sorry about the mix up. I inadvertently opened a message from Geek (from this thread) and the first thing that I saw was your answer. Should have paid more attention  :-[
Drivers from OEM websites? (can you please explain?)  overthehill


             

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« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2011, 03:27:58 PM »
Go to the website of your computer manufacturer (or motherboard manufacturer) for the chipset driver. Then go to the website of your various hardware manufacturers for their drivers (ie, nvida or ati for video, creative labs if you have a soundblaster card, etc).

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« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2011, 03:31:28 PM »
Go to the website of your computer manufacturer (or motherboard manufacturer) for the chipset driver. Then go to the website of your various hardware manufacturers for their drivers (ie, nvida or ati for video, creative labs if you have a soundblaster card, etc).
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« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2011, 03:33:35 PM »
You're welcome :)

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« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2011, 03:50:35 PM »
You're welcome :)
Well Allan that didn't start off so good. Started with the chipset for Motherboard and I'm told that it doesn't meet the minimum requirements. Strange that the PC came with the Vista Upgrade?.overthehill


             

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« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2011, 06:42:02 PM »
Well Allan that didn't start off so good. Started with the chipset for Motherboard and I'm told that it doesn't meet the minimum requirements. Strange that the PC came with the Vista Upgrade?.overthehill

Update # 2.

Well whether this PC meets the requirements or not, at the moment it's running Vista just fine. I was finally able to find/download and install the SigmaTel driver that I required. Sound problem gone. Actually that was the last real problem that I was having with the installation. Still don't know what that FCDABIOS (2003) device EnumeratorOO (still with yellow flag) is though?  In any case, as long as that notification doesn't keep popping up I'm not going to worry about it. So, if Vista keeps running as it is presently, that'll be great. |V|

Thanks once more Allan. Much appreciated. overthehill



 


             

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Re: Vista Upgrade
« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2011, 07:54:55 AM »
some info at http://driver-backup.com/driver_detail/?driver_id=56704 on FCDABIOS (2003) device Enumerator but I'm still not sure what device it relates to.  If you click on System devices on that web page, the next page shows a long list.  If you eventually notice something that doesn't seem to work right, that may be your clue to this mystery.

You might try letting Device Manager search the internet for a driver for that item.  I'd bet chances are slim it will find a driver to resolve it but still worth a try.

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« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2011, 11:25:50 AM »
some info at http://driver-backup.com/driver_detail/?driver_id=56704 on FCDABIOS (2003) device Enumerator but I'm still not sure what device it relates to.  If you click on System devices on that web page, the next page shows a long list.  If you eventually notice something that doesn't seem to work right, that may be your clue to this mystery.

You might try letting Device Manager search the internet for a driver for that item.  I'd bet chances are slim it will find a driver to resolve it but still worth a try.

Thanks soybean for your interest. And yes, Device Manager kept offering to search the web to find the correct driver but could find nothing. I followed your link and download the driver for FCDABIOS (2003) device EnumeratorOO, which btw was on the first page. But, it wasn't very fruitful, couldn't find driver or ? in that download.  Didn't see anything either that I could relate to in that long list. Anyway, what I did then was go to the FCDABIOS (2003) device EnumeratorOO file in System Devices on my PC(the file that looked OK) and found that the manufacturer is Farstone. I went to the Farstone site and downloaded the driver (rather huge), from there. Their instructions are to "Add Driver" to Pre-Windows Recovery Manager ,which doesn't appear to be anywhere on my system.
If I understand this properly, Farstone is used for Virtual Drive / Back Ups, which I never use anyway. Assuming that I'm correct, if it gives me anymore concerns I can always delete Virtual Drive from Add/Remove programs.
btw, haven't been bothered with that pop up since early yesterday. Maybe it's gone |V|

Thanks again. overthehill