California bill over encryption backdoors would stop Apple selling iPhone in CA

[Geek-9pm]

Yes, that means Apple might not sell the iPhone in California.

No, it is not yet law. But read the story.

[patio]

Page not found...

[camerongray]

Fixed link: http://9to5mac.com/2016/01/21/california-bill-encryption-iphone-sales/

[BC_Programmer]

This bill would require a smartphone that is manufactured on or after January 1, 2017, and sold in California, to be capable of being decrypted and unlocked by its manufacturer or its operating system provider.

This affects more than just iPhones, I expect. And any devices it doesn't ban are the types I would give a wide berth.

[Geek-9pm]

Sorry I typo ed the link..   
Camerongray found it:
http://9to5mac.com/2016/01/21/california-bill-encryption-iphone-sales/

Recently the FBI made a request to Apple.
New York state has a similar plan.
In the UK that want something line this.

The implication is that other makers already do what the governments want.

Else whee I saw something where anybody caught purchasing an iPhone next year would face a $2000 fine. The logic must be that a criminal  would never have that much money to pay for a  secure phone. 

[patio]

Else whee I saw something where anybody caught purchasing an iPhone next year would face a $2000 fine. The logic must be that a criminal  would never have that much money to pay for a  secure phone. 

This is above Geek random ridiculousness...

[BC_Programmer]

This is above Geek random ridiculousness...

He's not wrong, at least not about the fine part. The bill proposes banning the device, and that anybody purchasing a smartphone capable of non-back-doored encryption after January 1st, 2017 would be fined $2,500 per-device.

link to the bill.

[patio]

Perfect for the land of fruits and nuts....Nothing they do out there makes any sense whatsoever so they get what they deserve.
Nancy Pelosi outlawed wind farms because a few stupid birds were killed flyin into the props...and they can't afford electricity...
Makes all kinda sense to me.

Didn't mean to go on a political rant...but they are basically clueless.

[strollin]

...   Didn't mean to go on a political rant...but they are basically clueless.

And you're not?

[Geek-9pm]

for a really funny  security joke,  look at the UK.
UK snooping law won't ban WhatsApp, but could leave your data open to HACKERS

Apple has raised concerns about the Investigatory Powers Bill to a parliamentary committee.
The iPhone manufacturer believes the legislation could weaken the security protecting the personal data of "hundreds of millions of law-abiding citizens."
The Investigatory Powers Bill – currently in its draft stage – could overhaul the rules governing how authorities can snoop on people's communications.

[BC_Programmer]

California is following in the footsteps of New York, which has a pending bill that is nearly the same (including, as far as I can tell, the fines)

[patio]

It's against the law in New York to shovel your own snow...without a permit.

[BC_Programmer]

It's against the law in New York to shovel your own snow...without a permit.

It's illegal to offer snow shoveling services without registering. It's fine to shovel your own driveways and so forth.

[Geek-9pm]

Apple CEO says there will be no backdoor.
But last year some claim that Apple has a backdoor that can be used if you have physical control of the device.
Is this true?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2014/07/22/every-iphone-has-a-security-backdoor/#73b2473037d7

[patio]

It's illegal to offer snow shoveling services without registering. It's fine to shovel your own driveways and so forth.

I stand corrected...still pretty silly if you think about it.