just to prove the point that computers have no common sense, we got the issued fixed but the least i could do is tell you how, now understan in his pc he has a cd rom and a dvd rom they are reconized in the bios and seem to work fine, I also have a cd rom and dvd in my computer the windows cd worked fine in my cd tried to boot every time, in either drive, how ever it would not try to boot when it was in either one of his drives, put it in my wifes pc and tried to boot from cd, so this would lead one to think the cd must be fine works in 3 out of 5 drives, his drives work fine except for it wont reconize them as a boot device after 4 hrs of cussing and screaming and pulling my hair out I gave up for the night. so my friend packed up his pc and went home with his tail between his legs, 20 min later he calls me, he is over joyed he has the copie of my disc that I had left there by mistake, [now this is a copie of the same disc that wouldnt work in his drives] here is the kicker he put the copie in and poof"HIT ANY KEY TO BOOT TO CD" AND YOU KNOW HOW IT ENDS , HE INSTALLED WINDOWS XP AND IS TROUBLE FREE???
so just a reminder that I leanred awhile back if trying something to fix a problem on a pc makes absolutly no sense , and by all counts would never possibly work, TRY IT ANY WAY, CAUSE NO ONE HAS EVER BOTHERED TO PROGRAM COMMON SENSE INTO A COMPUTER YET!
any way thx for all your help now and in the past