May poll

[street1 (RIP)]

"Have you pirated software, MP3's, or other data?"

Well, Nathan this forum sure gets a lot of"HELP!posts.

I gather from that the answer is yes.

[banjo67xxx]

Why pay for something you can get for free?

Why pay for a car if I can just take yours? 

You can have as many pictures of my car as you want, and if you've got a portable X-ray you're welcome to look inside everything, so you can make a replica. As long as I can still drive it when I want.

But buy your own petrol.


I think the EFF has got the right idea. Why not let ISP's bundle P2P filesharing into their pricing, and then the artists can get paid. Instead of the RIAA wasting loads of money in a futile war.

If you really want to charge a premium for quality software, then your licensing mechanism should be good enough to prevent piracy. You can let people copy the code as many times as they want, it just wont run without a unique license for each system. You could even use P2P to get upgrades and patches available to your paying customers.

[Dilbert]

Why pay for something you can get for free?

Why pay for a car if I can just take yours? 

LOL

I chose "never". I tried P2P once, and didn't really like it, so I never did it again. I'm saying never because if someone tries smoking, but never smokes again, they're not smokers.

[pcfool]

when i was a poor college student, i try very hard to get an old second intel pentium 100MHZ pc, the lousiest pc in the class or even in the school. (other student at least have a pentium 2, some already have pentium 3), do you think i still affort to spend a few hundred dollar to buy  original software since i can get a pirated only for a few dollar in black market or download it for free. that time the price for original MS office (example) is too expensive for a student, (enough for 1 month expenses for a college student life, they'r not selling student and teacher pack).

my vote is, YES all the time.. when i get my first computer about 8 years ago, i never pay a cent for original software untill few years ago. now, the original software or games i brought recently years is Starcraft, NFS 3, NFS underground, NFS underground 2, Most wanted, NFS carbon, Haftlife 2 Nascar simulation and some other pc games.. yes! that only pc games can make me pay to buy original even i didn't play online.

[patio]

Once again i see the economic argument for rationalising pirating....." i can't afford it so i think i'll just grab it for free"

What is it worth to you to have it actually work right....better yet what value do you place on your own peace of mind ? ?

Don't get me wrong i'm not preaching.

Just don't come crying when your first car gets stolen by someone applying the same sense of economics we are discussing here...

After all he couldn't afford a car now could he ? ? ?

[Zylstra]

[sitting in my chair, keeping quite about my vote...]

[Raptor]

That made absolutely no sense whatsoever. The harder I'm trying to see if I can make sense of it, the less it actually does.

So.. Basically; in your eyes, stealing a car is the same as not living up to an EULA?

Because we all know that software developers drive EULA's to work each day.. 

[CBMatt]

That made absolutely no sense whatsoever. The harder I'm trying to see if I can make sense of it, the less it actually does.

So.. Basically; in your eyes, stealing a car is the same as not living up to an EULA?

Because we all know that software developers drive EULA's to work each day.. 

Doesn't make much sense to me either.  I don't see how having copies of some songs on your computer is the same as taking someone's car.  It's a whole different level.  I just borrowed It's Time For The Peacocks from a friend and put it on my computer...should The Peacocks come to my house now and steal my car to level the playing field?  If it's that big of a deal, I'll put a few CD's on their computer, free of charge.

[Calum]

the price for original MS office (example) is too expensive for a student

And that's why open source software is thriving.

[patio]

Once again i see the economic argument for rationalising pirating....." i can't afford it so i think i'll just grab it for free"

Fine. I'll just leave it at this and everyone can keep their car...

[Raptor]

Once again i see the economic argument for rationalising pirating....." i can't afford it so i think i'll just grab it for free"

Fine. I'll just leave it at this and everyone can keep their car...

O.K, so because we can get it more easily and for free means we shouldn't do it? Some argument.

By the way, there are a lot of things that could improve the economy and fighting piracy is not one of them.

[reaper_tbs]

i love everything pirated, i copy, rip, download, and burn, DVD's, CD's, AND CVDVDCD's. ''pirate'' is my last name, ''the'' is my middle name.

[Raptor]

i love everything pirated, i copy, rip, download, and burn, DVD's, CD's, AND CVDVDCD's. ''pirate'' is my last name, ''the'' is my middle name.

Rock on.

 

[soybean]

That made absolutely no sense whatsoever. The harder I'm trying to see if I can make sense of it, the less it actually does.

So.. Basically; in your eyes, stealing a car is the same as not living up to an EULA?

Because we all know that software developers drive EULA's to work each day.. 

So, stealing software (intangible property) is not the same as stealing tangible personal property?  Is that what you're saying?  I see no difference.  Just because stealing software or recorded music is easier than stealing a car does not somehow make it any less illegal or immoral.  Stealing is stealing.

[patio]

The point i was driving at...what's happened is not the fact that it's easy or right. The reality is that the line between good judgement and bad is what is getting blurrier by the day.

That's what troubles me.