Port Forwarding

[Soviet_Genius]

I am trying to set up port forwarding for Azureus (torrent program). I am using a US Robotics USR8054 router. I followed these instructions: http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/USRobotics/USR8054/Azureus.htm. It still won't work. I tried connecting directly to my modem (without the router) and found that my security software was blocking the ports. I fixed that. Now the ports work without the router but with it they still wont work. I have checked like 5 times to see if i made some kind of error in the router settings but everything is exactly like what portforward.com says it should be.

[donslibi]

If you are sure that your router settings are correct, then you may be having a firewall problem.
Try this - turn off your firewall and run Azureus again.

[Soviet_Genius]

I've tried that and the ports still don't work.

[Soviet_Genius]

Please help! My downloads go at like 15 kB/s!

[2k_dummy]

Are you sure that you even need port forwarding?

[Soviet_Genius]

It's not required for the program to run but it increases download and upload speed significantly. I've tried google but everyone's problems are much simpler like "whats port forwarding?" or "I did this and it still doesn't work" and the next person tells them that they did it all wrong.

[WillyW]

Please help! My downloads go at like 15 kB/s!

Test by downloading a known torrent that is supplied by many fast connections.

For example,  try downloading ubuntu linux.     

Did you get a much better speed?

[Soviet_Genius]

still queued........ 

[WillyW]

still queued........ 

?
Explain what you mean, please.

[Soviet_Genius]

In the status column where it might say downloading, paused, etc. it says queued, which means I am in line to download the file.

[WillyW]

In the status column where it might say downloading, paused, etc. it says queued, which means I am in line to download the file.

Right - I know what it means.

But why do you have it queued?    I thought you wanted to test download speed.    If you do,  then stop other downloads, and start the ubuntu download.

[Soviet_Genius]

Sorry, I never realized that I could only download 2 at a time. The speed on this is about 200-300 kB/s. When I download something from the internet on a good server it goes at about 500 kB/s.

[Soviet_Genius]

The speed just fell to around 50 kB/s.

[WillyW]

Sorry, I never realized that I could only download 2 at a time.

That number is probably configurable by you, somewhere in your software.

The speed on this is about 200-300 kB/s.

Earlier you were concerned that something was wrong on your end,  as your  speed was 15 kb/sec.

So you have now discovered that all is ok,  right?

When I download something from the internet on a good server it goes at about 500 kB/s.

huh?
That was the purpose of this experiment...  to download from known good servers.     ubuntu linux is usually available from a couple hundred servers at once,   so download speeds might be up to almost whatever the limit is that is imposed by your isp.

[WillyW]

What download rate are you paying for?    In other words,  what is the max speed that your isp is supposed to provide you?


And have you tried an online speed test?
Try this:   http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
Try a couple different servers.   Be sure nothing else is downloading when you do the tests.
After you do a test,  it will report the results towards the bottom of the screen,  both in   kbps  and KB/s.     Copy and paste everything there back here.

[Soviet_Genius]

I live in Toronto, the results are from closest to farthest.

New York server:
Download Speed: 4213 kbps (526.6 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 666 kbps (83.3 KB/sec transfer rate)

Chicago server:
Download Speed: 4247 kbps (530.9 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 669 kbps (83.6 KB/sec transfer rate)

Atlanta server:
Download Speed: 3214 kbps (401.8 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 612 kbps (76.5 KB/sec transfer rate)

Washington, DC server
Download Speed: 2536 kbps (317 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 575 kbps (71.9 KB/sec transfer rate)

[WillyW]

I live in Toronto, the results are from closest to farthest.

New York server:
Download Speed: 4213 kbps (526.6 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 666 kbps (83.3 KB/sec transfer rate)

Good.   
Now when you provide the answer to the other question,  all we have to do is compare.

[Soviet_Genius]

I also noticed something strange. To make sure none of the other computers on the network were using the internet i connected my modem directly to my computer. When I tried to test the ports they didn't work. They used to work before when I connected my modem directly to my computer. My firewall was off. My ISP says my connection is "up to" 4 Mbps.

[Soviet_Genius]

OK, my TCP port works now when connected directly to my modem. I fixed it by enabling UPnP in Azureus. UDP port still won't work though.

[WillyW]

My ISP says my connection is "up to" 4 Mbps.

And you were getting slightly over that with a couple of those speed tests,  correct?
So it looks like you don't have problems there.

As far as your bittorrent download rate and ports go -   if everything is set up properly,  and you have known good servers and plenty of them,   I think you should do better than 200 to 300 kbps.     
I don't have that high rate connection myself -   hopefully somebody else reading along will jump in here and comment.

[WillyW]

... connected my modem directly to my computer. My firewall was off.

Your software firewall was off,  right?

Do you have a hardware firewall too?     For example,  my DSL "modem"  is also a router.    To open a port,  I would have to go into its config and do it there.

[WillyW]

... UDP port still won't work though.

How do you know?    In other words,  whatever is reporting this to you -  is it in error?

[Soviet_Genius]

About the firewalls, my software firewall was off and my modem is simply a modem. It doesn't have a hardware firewall. My router does though. About the UDP port, Azureus only tests the TCP port. It tells you later if your UDP port doesn't work with an error message.

[WillyW]

About the firewalls, my software firewall was off and my modem is simply a modem. It doesn't have a hardware firewall.

Ok. 

My router does though.

And you are using instructions found on www.portforward.com for your router, correct?     I've always felt that site had good detail and instruction, so I'd be surprised if their instructions did not work.

About the UDP port, Azureus only tests the TCP port. It tells you later if your UDP port doesn't work with an error message.

Ok.
Now I'm wondering is this a known problem with that Azureus program.   If they have forums for it,  it might be worth searching them, to see if anybody else has experienced the exact same thing as yourself.

And -  try another bittorrent program.     Can't hurt.

[Soviet_Genius]

I seem to have found the problem. I use uTorrent now, I like it more than Azureus. My modem seems to block the port. When uTorrent is running and UPnP is enabled the port works. When uTorrent isn't running or I turn off UPnP The port no longer works. The problem is that my modem doesn't have any settings that have anything to do with ports, and on portforward.com there is no instructions for my modem. They have instructions for SpeedStream 6300 and 6520, however mine is a SpeedStream 5200. I looked at the instructions and the menus aren't similar in any way compared to the menus on my modem. This is really bothering me because when the ports work my speed is significantly increased.

[WillyW]

I seem to have found the problem. I use uTorrent now,

... and on portforward.com there is no instructions for my modem. They have instructions for SpeedStream 6300 and 6520, however mine is a SpeedStream 5200. ...

Try searching on    http://forum.utorrent.com  .
Maybe somebody there, using the same software and hardware as yourself, has already covered it.

[WillyW]

I use uTorrent now,  ...
 My modem seems to block the port. When uTorrent is running and UPnP is enabled the port works.

...This is really bothering me because when the ports work my speed is significantly increased.

I'm not sure what is still bothering you, since you've said it works when utorrent is running.

[Soviet_Genius]

I meant that it works when I connect directly to my modem. When I connect through my router the port still doesn't work. Sorry, my previous post wasn't very clear.

[WillyW]

I meant that it works when I connect directly to my modem.

But earlier you said, "My modem seems to block the port."

Which is it?

When I connect through my router the port still doesn't work. Sorry, my previous post wasn't very clear.

Have you checked out this?
Port Forwarding for the U.S. Robotics 8054
You said your modem isn't there,  but I mentioned earlier to look for your router there.

[WillyW]

... however mine is a SpeedStream 5200.

Is this your modem?

Efficient-Siemens Speedstream-5200

[Soviet_Genius]

Doesn't seem to be it because the menus are different and my ISP is Bell, so shouldn't it be under bell?

[WillyW]

Doesn't seem to be it

Seem?  Is that a Yes or a No?   
For now, I'll take it as a No.

because the menus are different and my ISP is Bell, so shouldn't it be under bell?

Beats me.

See    « Reply #25 on: Today at 01:42:10 PM »     above.
You haven't commented yet on your results with that.




Also see         « Reply #28 on: Today at 05:49:04 PM »       ,   you forgot to answer those.


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[Soviet_Genius]

What I mean is when I am connected to my modem AND uTorrent is running AND UPnP is enabled the port works. When I turn off UPnP or I close uTorrent or when I connect through my router the port stops working. I did follow the instructions for my router (US Robotics) It seems to me that when uTorrent is running and UPnP is enabled and I am connected directly to my modem the port works. When I close uTorrent or disble UPnP and try the port test again it fails. So it looks like uTorrent is automatically opening the ports in my modem with UPnP. But when I am connected through my router the port isn't bieng opened on the modem. I can't find anything on the uTorrent forums. I posted my problem there.

[WillyW]

... I can't find anything on the uTorrent forums.

Ok -  it is always worth a shot -  searching forums.

I posted my problem there.

Good.   Keep us posted here -  it will benefit someone else coming along someday, that finds this thread.