Iraq and our troops

[Richenstony]

hey everyone i just wanted to take time out to type this thread as it is something close to my heart and im sure all of sures in some aspect , as you know theres is a lot of political proper ganda and coruption in the war in iraq but lets not forget what some of the true causes are soliders in theory are going over there for , many men and women have died for the right so iraq can have some freedom from ruthless mercenaries and there cold blooded hearts , i think some people dont understand the true causes for this war , so many people have died its not right to think its all for nofing and i hope to say it will be over soon but im not in place to say that i really belive this war will be over no time soon , the reasons being oil , gold , and more money , some americains leaders i think are over there for one reason only oil and the financial profits of robbing a country of there own produces , im not saying its only america im sure the untied kingdom has there hand in someones pocket some where.

I hope the troops come home soon. And God bless 

[soybean]

This topic and your other one, "What is your fave movie and actor....", should be in the Off-Topic section.  Other is still for computer-related topics.  The Off-Topic section was specifically created for such topics as your two recent topics here.

[Richenstony]

I see , sorry , a admin should see this and move them 

[honvetops]

1. iF Bush did all this for just oil, he would have been crucified a long time ago with all the scrutiny thats watching him daily.
2. What powers up your motor vehicle ?
3. If you actually see an interview with a soldier on the ground over there "live",not invented or corrupted by the bbc, cnn or msnbc - you  will  never see them negative about their cause be it justified or not.
4. You know it sucks being there and I'm sure they are not happy but they do their duty.
5. The day the "west" leaves there and pulls out all of our troops,  there will be no more middle east....   read between the lines......  duke  _ _ _em...(ie.. were never leaving the region folks*) ......

We will always have troops there and in another country shortly,   .....
keep the people over there in your prayers and or your thoughts.....

China & India need huge amounts of oil due to their growing economies and  China's incredible momentous gains in the last 20 years! OIL runs  Nations....  its just a fact..........

[chriscool9]

Reppin all the UK Soliders, your doing good lads.
I was gonna join the Army but cant

Chris

[Richenstony]

I did join the amry , but wouldnt allow me in for personal reasons.....

[reaper_tbs]

i think the main cause for concern is a subconscious thing. there are illegal things going on there, and someone has to be blamed. people know subconsciously that these illegal things are happening, and can't quite tell that that's what's bothering them. i think the only reason half this crap was said by the media/fanatics/etc. was to further blind people. there's nothing wrong with the american troops being over there, they're doing their job, it's just that some are doing... questionable things in the meantime, and by some, i mean a VERY small percentage, which screws up the image of the rest. imagine their morale... poor guys get blamed for things a few stupid people decided would benefit them.

i think lots of the ''conspiracies'' aren't actually conspiracies so much as a blinding by those who want the public to think differently. if the public speaks up in the wrong way, eventually something has to be done about it, that something is usually exactly what the public think they want, to stop further issues with the public of course. but this is exactly what those with strange opinions want, if they can influence the public in countries not affected by the current situation, imagine what's happening to the countries that are. these countries are dependant upon the help of troops to save their families and jobs and houses and children, if one bad influence sets these people off, they're going to trust the wrong people and most likely ruin or lose their lives....

i don't know how much of this will be agreed with, but i know subjects like this are rather touchy, so, before flaming, please do not misinterpret what i've said, and if you do, tell me the reason for the flaming. by all means i will accept criticism for my opinions, but let's get one thing straight. i support these people who are fighting for the protection of others. nobody else, only those. if anyone is doing otherwise, including people who may be in the American army, i don't support them.

rant over... sorta...

[Zylstra]

Topic moved to "Off Topic" from "Others Section"

[street1 (RIP)]

I will start by saying those troops are all volunteers .

The USA don't draft anymore.

So, they are just doing a dangerous job they were
trained to do,like a policeman.

I was in the US Army from 1969 until 1980.

I wish them all the best and hope this will end soon.

At the same time I know we still have armed forces
in Germany since 1945 when the war ended 62 years
ago.We have had armed forces in Japan for the same
amount of time.

Korea about 55 years.

I doubt anyone now living in the USA will ever see us
really bring our armed forces home.

If the dumba$$ed media wants to talk about something...

Why not find out when the USA is leaving Germany,Japan,
and South Korea...Hmmm. Wonder when those 3 wars will
end ?

[Zylstra]

I do believe President Bush did drop the D word once before... but it was covered up very quickly

I am not a very war-pro person. Its never been a "fuzzy tingly" thought to me (you know, shotting people)
Its something I could easily refuse to do, and accept the punishment of death for. Its completely immoral.

Far as I am concerned:
It wasn't Afghanistan and Iraq who crashed a plane into the (forgot the name...), it was an individual group of [insane] people who obviously thought we needed it...

"We found weapons of mass destruction" - President Bush
^ One of the many lies.

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/lies << Interesting video
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/bushdesk.php << For humors sake

[honvetops]

"We found weapons of mass destruction" - President Bush

when you follow the news like I do and understand things after years of learning its almost "comical"....   In a way the above statement is in fact correct. It's the TRUTH.*

His dad sold them to Iraq.  facts don't lie................   

[Zylstra]

"We found weapons of mass destruction" - President Bush

when you follow the news like I do and understand things after years of learning its almost "comical"....   In a way the above statement is in fact correct. It's the TRUTH.*

His dad sold them to Iraq.  facts don't lie................   

They never found any weapons though. Whether they exist or not is something different.

[honvetops]

There are about 30,000 Kurds up in the Northern Provinces who would claim they do exist.....they can't speak now , though............

[Zylstra]

There are about 30,000 Kurds up in the Northern Provinces who would claim they do exist.....they can't speak now , though............

But nevertheless, it is a lie then, and there were no found weapons, therefor, making it fiction, not fact

[honvetops]

Are "you" so sure?  Do you draw your own conclusions from what you watch on the television ? What you hear on a radio ?
 Saddam was a Bathist. Syria is run and controlled by the Bathists.
 
  Posted on February 22, 2006 | Filed Under Politics, Iraq

Last Month, Georges Sada, Saddam Hussein’s No. 2 man in the Iraqi Air Force, confirmed to the New York Sun that Iraqi WMDs were moved to Syria just before the war began.
    Mr. Sada, 65, told the Sun that the pilots of the two airliners that transported the weapons of mass destruction to Syria from Iraq approached him in the middle of 2004, after Saddam was captured by American troops.

These pilots appearently told Sada that two commercial Iraqi Airways Boeings were converted to transport planes by removing the seats. Then the Republican Guard loaded the planes with containers labeled with skull and crossbones, and the contents were then flown to Syria under the guise of a commercial flight. 56 such flights were made in all.

Now we have another high ranking official coming out with similar information.

Ali Ibrahim al-Tikriti, southern regional commander for Saddam Hussein’s Fedayeen militia in the late 80s, discussed Saddam’s al-Qaida link with worldthreats.com. Although al-Tikriti defected shortly before the first Gulf War, he is confident that Iraqs WMDs (which he confirmed existed prior to his defection) were moved to Syria based on contingency plans between Baghdad and Damascus.
 I have discussed this in-depth with various contacts of mine who have confirmed what I already knew,” he said. Saddam…”wanted since he took power to embarrass the West, and this was the perfect opportunity to do so,” al-Tikriti said… What we are witnessing now, he said, “is many who opposed the war to begin with are rallying around Saddam saying we overthrew a sovereign leader based on a lie about WMD. This is exactly what Saddam wanted and predicted… Some of Saddam’s key scientists are personal friends of mine, as well as other key leaders in the former Iraqi military,” he said. “I have helped draw information since my defecting to the United States government voluntarily and with the permission of these contacts. “

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48827