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Do you use a graphical or text editor to make your web pages?

Graphical/WYSIWYG
4 (44.4%)
Text
5 (55.6%)

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WYSIWYG or text editor?
« on: April 04, 2008, 11:37:29 AM »
Simple question for all the web developers out there.
Please, when voting, include how much web design/creation you do, and what you actually do.
Also, what editor do you use specifically and why?
I'm off out but I'll edit this post with those details when I get back.

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Re: WYSIWYG or text editor?
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2008, 12:26:51 PM »
I haven't used a wysiwyg editor in years. There's just not as much control with them.
My scope of web development includes html, css, javascript, and php/mysql.
In windows, I use notepad++, and in linux, I use quanta. If they made quanta for windows, I would use that because it does inline help and command finishing....

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    « Reply #2 on: April 04, 2008, 03:35:24 PM »
    html, css, javascript, php, mysql and ajax.

    I never used a wysiwyg editor. When I began with webdesign I used Windows Notepad, but that has been replaced by Notepad++ when I started with PHP.



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    Re: WYSIWYG or text editor?
    « Reply #3 on: April 04, 2008, 04:34:24 PM »
    I am limping along in HTML, making small changes to an existing website.  I removed broken links, added new ones, and need to consider adding pages to present groups of links.  There are prettier ways to do it, I'm sure, but I'm taking things a step (or stagger) at a time.

    I'm sure it's best to learn the code, though I do hear the siren song of Dreamweaver...anyone who's ever used it care to comment on it?


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    Re: WYSIWYG or text editor?
    « Reply #4 on: April 04, 2008, 04:38:53 PM »
    I'm sure it's best to learn the code, though I do hear the siren song of Dreamweaver...anyone who's ever used it care to comment on it?

    It's one of the best wysiwyg editors out there. Very easy to use and you can view the wysiwyg part alongside the coded part for reference/learning. Go ahead and get it if you don't feel like getting into hand-coding.

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    « Reply #5 on: April 04, 2008, 05:17:24 PM »
    Thanks, michael -- I thought I might cheat with Dreamweaver to do some better things for the website on which I'm working down the line, though I am interested in programming, and I thought to start with HTML, and maybe CSS, just to get me back in the swing of things.  (I did some minor UNIX shell scripting about twenty years ago.)


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    Re: WYSIWYG or text editor?
    « Reply #6 on: April 05, 2008, 03:52:22 AM »
    I used Dreamweaver when I started out because I didn't know any coding whatsoever.
    I then got into the coding and quickly ditched Dreamweaver, partly because my trial had run out and it's very expensive, and partly because it took so long to launch.  It also cluttered up my coding.
    I started using Notepad, and now use either Notepad or Notepad++.
    I really don't like WYSIWYG editors, they have a habit of destroying my web pages by trying to "help" me.
    As for what I do, I've edited PHP for an SMF forum I used to run, also websites built with HTML, Javascript and CSS, for my old clan site, my business site, my college work, and any work I can pick up for others.
    Aegis - remember that whilst Dreamweaver does offer a realtime preview of the coding, it doesn't always look right - a web browser is still a better option for previewing the pages.  Also, watch out for the coding it inserts - it generally needs a lot of cleaning up when the website is not hand coded.  But I do think that editing it WYSIWYG style and watching the code is a good way to learn, that's how I started off and it really helped me.

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    « Reply #7 on: April 05, 2008, 04:07:20 AM »
    If you're looking for a good HTML editor...relatively cheap...you may want to take a look at this vendor:  Coffee Cup

    They have an editor that's relatively cheap and does eactly what I want it to.

    Here's a link to it:  CoffeeCup HTML Editor 2007

    It's $50 (USD) and worth every penny...

    Compare it to the price of Dreamweaver...

    CoffeeCup actually offers some free web design software:  Check it out!
    « Last Edit: April 05, 2008, 11:04:44 AM by stevejohnson1958 »

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    Re: WYSIWYG or text editor?
    « Reply #8 on: April 05, 2008, 09:41:30 AM »
    Thank you, thank you!

    I'll have to check out that software -- I do like a good cup of coffee.   ;)


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    « Reply #9 on: April 05, 2008, 11:06:39 AM »
    You're welcome...

    BTW, Calum...

    Most WYSIWYG/Graphical Editors do allow you to use text editing, as well.  So you may want to include "Both" in your poll.

    Just a thought... ;)

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    Re: WYSIWYG or text editor?
    « Reply #10 on: April 06, 2008, 06:05:14 AM »
    CoffeeCup looks pretty good, would check it out if I was into WYSIWYG.3
    And that's a valid point about some people using both, I guess people could vote on what they use most.
    But, I'll add both as an option anyway.
    Edit: I would do, but I don't seem to be able to :(

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    Re: WYSIWYG or text editor?
    « Reply #11 on: April 06, 2008, 09:29:20 AM »
    Started with notepad, but after creating a few hundred pages it becomes old, especially when working with tables. Moved to a WYSIWYG editor, currently using Microsoft Expression Web.
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    « Reply #12 on: April 06, 2008, 09:43:25 AM »
    Have used Dreamweaver and CoffeeCup...still using both, actually.  I gues it depends on price and what you feel comfortable using.

    Have never used Microsoft's Expression Web, but checked it out after you listed it.  Seems to be a nifty little program...if it weren't for the price...$299.00.

    I guess...if you're making the big bucks...you can afford it... ;D

    Thanks for listing that, Nathan...it was worth looking into.  Honestly...I thought Microsoft Publisher was the best they had...

    I need to get out more... ;)

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    Re: WYSIWYG or text editor?
    « Reply #13 on: April 06, 2008, 10:33:49 AM »
    Heh big bucks. I actually paid $89.00 for my version. Which is a version that allows you to upgrade from any existing copy of Microsoft Front Page, which is now no longer developed and something I've used in the past. Overall it's a good program, although it's crashed more on me than any previous version of Front Page and Microsoft doesn't seem to have a solution for me.
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    « Reply #14 on: April 06, 2008, 12:47:50 PM »
    I forgot about Front Page, as well.

    $89???  That's not too bad...I saw the Upgrade price, when I did the research on it, after your post.

    Was just wondering...

    Did Microsoft recommend the full version, as opposed to the upgrade as a remedy for your crash problem?  (Knowing full well that it wasn't an option if you had to pay for it.)  It would just seem they'd have a remedy...but Microsoft is Microsoft.

    I just might give it a test drive...just to see how it is.

    Thanks, again...