Author Topic: Graphics Card (Read 9179 times)

DeathV · « **on:** July 20, 2008, 08:35:45 PM »

I am not sure if this is the right place to post this but I'm hoping it is.
Anyway.
I have this computer bought from Dell, Dimension C521.
It's not like a normal computer it's minimized. It's smaller size then normal computers and it's width is greater then the normal cpu but height is much less.

This is basically the one.

My question anyway was what's the best graphics card can I get for this kind of computer.

xavier · « **Reply #1 on:** July 20, 2008, 09:15:57 PM »

The card for that PC is half the size pci express x 16 if you google the make you can get the info

DeathV · « **Reply #2 on:** July 20, 2008, 10:36:47 PM »

Actually I did google like the entire day today... and can't really find any good ones... I'm not so good at finding out if the card is good or bad. Those words and numbers don't mean anything to me lol.
My guess the bigger the better but how big the numbers have to be?
I still need help.

drmsucks · « **Reply #3 on:** July 20, 2008, 11:02:38 PM »

Quote from: DeathV on July 20, 2008, 10:36:47 PM

Actually I did google like the entire day today... and can't really find any good ones... I'm not so good at finding out if the card is good or bad. Those words and numbers don't mean anything to me lol.
My guess the bigger the better but how big the numbers have to be?
I still need help.

Post your computer specs, why you want to change video cards (what you want to accomplish with a new card) and someone will be along to help you. It's difficult to help when all you have requested is "what's the best graphics card can I get for this kind of computer."

DeathV · « **Reply #4 on:** July 20, 2008, 11:18:49 PM »

Okay well... I want to run Supreme Commander game basically super good/fast.
I looked into something and found this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130318
I was wondering if this could fit in the half sized computer.
I've noticed it's only for windows Vista but that's no problem.

Here the System stuff

System Model: Dimension C521
BIOS: )Phoenix - Award WorkstationBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3400+, MMX, 3DNow, ~1.8GHz
Memory: 2494MB RAM
Page File: 481MB used, 3902MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode

Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 6150 LE
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 6150 LE
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Display Memory: 256.0 MB
Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz)

Anything else?
Thnx.

drmsucks · « **Reply #5 on:** July 20, 2008, 11:24:10 PM »

What size power supply do you have and what type of expansion slot do you have for the video card?

I'm not a gamer but the people who know will need the answer to these questions.

EDIT: The card that you referenced appears to be a full sized card - you need a 'low profile' card.

DeathV · « **Reply #6 on:** July 20, 2008, 11:42:17 PM »

Well I have the PCI Express slot x16 and some other 2 PCI Slots.

I am not sure what Size is the power supply. I looked in today but couldn't find anywhere that said anything about my power supply.

JJ 3000 · « **Reply #7 on:** July 21, 2008, 02:13:13 AM »

Have you tried the Dell support site?
http://support.dell.com/support/index.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&~ck=mn

Whenever I have a question about a Dell I always check here first

Calum · « **Reply #8 on:** July 21, 2008, 06:14:34 AM »

You have a 280W PSU, which is not enough for a modern graphics card.
This is the best low profile card I can find by the way, but it won't play Supreme Commander "super good/fast". Anyway, you won't be able to use it without a better, Dell-specific, PSU. And then there are heat issues to consider too.
And to play Supreme Commander well, you'd need a better CPU too.

DeathV · « **Reply #9 on:** July 21, 2008, 06:06:39 PM »

Nvm guys thnx for your help and stuff but I found the best low profile card at the moment... It will defenetly play Supreme Commander and Crysis and other cool new games.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814145153

Most likely will need a better Power Supply but we shall see.

Calum · « **Reply #10 on:** July 22, 2008, 06:04:40 AM »

Sorry but you're wrong, the card I pointed out is faster and cheaper, and also uses less power so it's more likely to work.
Neither of those cards will play Crysis acceptably, and they also won't play Supreme Commander "super good/fast".
However, suit yourself, I can only advise you.

DeathV · « **Reply #11 on:** July 22, 2008, 11:56:00 AM »

If you would read the review the card that I showed, it can run Crysis on Medium settings pretty good. Meaning Supreme Commander will be defenetly playable smoothly. May be not on Maxed but in at least Medium it will play pretty well.

Calum · « **Reply #12 on:** July 22, 2008, 01:37:41 PM »

OK, I see the review but it doesn't mention his other specs, or the resolution.
I would just say though that the card needs a low profile kit, adding to its already higher price, and it is slower and more power hungry than the card I linked to.
I thought when you said "super fast/good" you meant maxed, but obviously I got the wrong impression.

DeathV · « **Reply #13 on:** July 22, 2008, 02:34:55 PM »

Model
Brand    CHAINTECH
Model    GSV86GT 512MB
Form Factor    Low Profile Ready
Interface
Interface    PCI Express x16
Chipset
Chipset Manufacturer    NVIDIA
GPU    GeForce 8600 GT
Core clock    540MHz
Stream Processors    32
Memory
Memory Clock    800MHz
Memory Size    512MB
Memory Interface    128-bit
Memory Type    GDDR2
3D API
DirectX    DirectX 10
OpenGL    OpenGL 2.0
Ports
D-SUB    1
DVI    1
TV-Out    HDTV / S-Video Out
VIVO    No
General
Tuner    None
RAMDAC    400 MHz
Max Resolution    2560 x 1600
Cooler    With Fan
Dual-Link DVI Supported    Yes
Features
Features    NVIDIA Unified Architecture
NVIDIA Quantum Effects Technology
NVIDIA Lumenex Engine
NVIDIA nViewmulti-display technology
NVIDIA PureVideoHD technology
Packaging
Package Contents    GSV86GT 512MB
Driver Disk
User Manual
S-Video Cable

that's a pretty fast card there...
Yours is not bad either but it's the best low profile graphics card I can get or anyone else at the moment.

Calum · « **Reply #14 on:** July 23, 2008, 06:24:53 AM »

OK, I owe you an apology.
I wasn't thinking straight last night when I wrote those posts and I didn't see that the card I linked to has DDR2 memory, as it's actually specified as GDDR2, which doesn't exist, but I read it as GDDR3.
The 8600GT in this case is in fact faster, and I do apologize for my mistake.
My other comments do still stand though.

DeathV · « **Reply #15 on:** July 23, 2008, 11:47:28 AM »

its alright lol u were close to being right though

thnx anyway

Edit:

Well I just got that card that I showed... it appears that it's not a low profile even though it did say low profile ready on the description... That is just so gay

I guess I'll either have to get a new box or get a new card

patio · « **Reply #16 on:** July 23, 2008, 06:49:25 PM »

Stick with the card and get a new case....

For Example...

drmsucks · « **Reply #17 on:** July 23, 2008, 07:05:10 PM »

@calum: What the heck does "low profile ready" mean?!

Just curious, thanks!

DeathV · « **Reply #18 on:** July 23, 2008, 07:14:09 PM »

That was a pretty good example there... Thnx...
But I just thought of rather buying it somewhere around my place kuz paying for the shipping and stuff is just pain in the.........you know what.

Edit:

I was also wondering if I can put my old power supply in the case that doesn't come with power supply?
And also if I get a new power supply, my dad says it has to match the old power supply, what exactly has to match?

Thnx.

patio · « **Reply #19 on:** July 23, 2008, 08:00:25 PM »

Post the specs of your machine if you need new PSU suggestions...Sylvia is on Holiday for a few weeks.

Post your approximate location so we can suggest vendors in your area that may offer the same case choices.

xavier · « **Reply #20 on:** July 23, 2008, 08:02:16 PM »

For a gamer you have to pay the price

DeathV · « **Reply #21 on:** July 23, 2008, 08:05:29 PM »

Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.070227-2254)
   Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Dell Inc
   System Model: Dimension C521
   BIOS: )Phoenix - Award WorkstationBIOS v6.00PG
   Processor: AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3400+, MMX, 3DNow, ~1.8GHz
   Memory: 2494MB RAM
   Page File: 481MB used, 3902MB available
   Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
   DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
   DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode

Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 6150 LE
   Manufacturer: NVIDIA
   Chip type: GeForce 6150 LE
   DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC

   Display Memory: 256.0 MB
   Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz)
   Monitor: hp pavilion mx50
  Monitor Max Res: 1024,768
   Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
   Driver Version: 6.14.0011.7519 (English)
   DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 5/16/2008 14:01:00, 6108928 bytes
   WHQL Logo'd: Yes
  WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
   VDD: n/a
   Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys

Not sure what else you need about my system lol.

If you need the info about the Power Supply... I'm not sure what to give to help.

The stores are
Walmart
CircuitCIty
BestBuy

There was CompUSA but I think it's no longer in existence atm.

That's all the stores I know there could be more.
Thnx for your help.

xavier · « **Reply #22 on:** July 23, 2008, 08:26:47 PM »

Not trying to interupt all the posts,[ look back at some games.] they only required nothing like todays requirments of games,& the requirements will increase. Nothing against on what you have now & trying to build from what you have, dont you think it would be wiser to invest in a up to date gaming rig?

DeathV · « **Reply #23 on:** July 23, 2008, 11:22:53 PM »

Well.... I don't work just yet...
Soon in a few months I will most likely work then I'll get enough money to get a better computer. At the moment I don't need anything better then to run Supreme Commander.
Thnx though.

Calum · « **Reply #24 on:** July 24, 2008, 07:43:23 AM »

Quote from: drmsucks on July 23, 2008, 07:05:10 PM

@calum: What the heck does "low profile ready" mean?!

Just curious, thanks!

It means that a low profile kit is needed to make the card fit in a low profile case.
In the reviews of that card it mentions an XFX kit that others have purchased to do the job.
Low profile ready cards differ from actual low profile cards in that they need this kit, whereas low profile cards can be considered to already have the kit applied, they are actually low profile.

drmsucks · « **Reply #25 on:** July 24, 2008, 09:46:55 AM »

Thanks. The picture of the card made it look 'low profile' but it looked as if it had a full size bracket. Assume that part of the kit is a replacement bracket.

DeathV · « **Reply #26 on:** July 24, 2008, 10:46:16 AM »

I was thinking may be it would be better and cheaper to get a low profile kit?

drmsucks · « **Reply #27 on:** July 24, 2008, 10:53:20 AM »

Quote from: DeathV on July 24, 2008, 10:46:16 AM

I was thinking may be it would be better and cheaper to get a low profile kit?

Cheaper - but you may need a new psu.

Suggest that you check now to see what your psu options are for your current case.

DeathV · « **Reply #28 on:** July 24, 2008, 01:02:01 PM »

lol it's all fine I don't need any brackets or anything new I used my brain and it's working great.
Thnx for your help.

drmsucks · « **Reply #29 on:** July 24, 2008, 01:05:59 PM »

Quote from: DeathV on July 24, 2008, 01:02:01 PM

I used my brain

Uh Oh!

Glad that it's working - what did you do?

DeathV · « **Reply #30 on:** July 24, 2008, 01:31:44 PM »

I just removed the Bracket so it would fit in the case and put the monitor connector out and it's working just fine

drmsucks · « **Reply #31 on:** July 24, 2008, 01:43:21 PM »

Quote from: DeathV on July 24, 2008, 01:31:44 PM

I just removed the Bracket so it would fit in the case and put the monitor connector out and it's working just fine

Great - let's hope that the psu holds up! Enjoy

DeathV · « **Reply #32 on:** July 24, 2008, 01:52:00 PM »

Well I don't hear any noises or anything. Like it's not louder.
No real heat just yet. I think the heat will come out when I will play a video game, but when just on the desktop and stuff like that it's warmish.

What are symptoms if the Power Supply can't handle it?

drmsucks · « **Reply #33 on:** July 24, 2008, 02:02:53 PM »

Quote from: DeathV on July 24, 2008, 01:52:00 PM

What are symptoms if the Power Supply can't handle it?

Random, multiple errors; shutdowns, etc. Don't worry until it happens.

DeathV · « **Reply #34 on:** July 24, 2008, 02:48:24 PM »

hahaha... alright thnx.

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