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Re: system process eating all of cpu
« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2008, 07:40:05 PM »
Go Start>Run (Start Search in Vista), type in:
msconfig
Click OK (hit Enter in Vista).

Click on Startup tab.
Click Disable all

Click Services tab.
Put checkmark in Hide all Microsoft services
Click Disable all.

Click OK.
Restart computer in Normal Mode.

NOTE. If you use different firewall, than Windows firewall, turn Windows firewall on, just for this test, since your regular firewall won't be running.
If you use Windows firewall, you're fine.

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    Re: system process eating all of cpu
    « Reply #16 on: December 20, 2008, 08:41:16 PM »
    Disabled all services and startup items. ....no help...

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    Re: system process eating all of cpu
    « Reply #17 on: December 20, 2008, 09:33:13 PM »
    The only other advice, that come to my mind is ti uninstall Norton, using this: http://service1.symantec.com/Support/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039
    If you decide to do so, make sure to turn Windows firewall on.

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    Re: system process eating all of cpu
    « Reply #18 on: December 21, 2008, 02:40:25 AM »
    So, did you try safe mode?

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    Re: system process eating all of cpu
    « Reply #19 on: December 21, 2008, 11:42:15 AM »
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    Yes, same thing in safe mode.....

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    Re: system process eating all of cpu
    « Reply #20 on: December 21, 2008, 11:57:57 AM »
    Then why are you still suggesting that the person in question finds the solution in Windows itself?
    Norton doesn't run in safe mode.

    Sounds more like a hardware defect to me.

    Diagnose hardware using a program such as PCCheck
    Reformat + reinstall to see if the problem continues.

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    Re: system process eating all of cpu
    « Reply #21 on: December 21, 2008, 12:22:04 PM »
    Raptor
    Make up your mind...
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    Faulty memory or a damaged hard drive are not very likely to force your CPU into overdrive.
    then...
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    Sounds more like a hardware defect to me.

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    Norton doesn't run in safe mode.
    You don't know Norton, then.

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    Re: system process eating all of cpu
    « Reply #22 on: December 21, 2008, 12:30:38 PM »
    Raptor
    Make up your mind...
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    Faulty memory or a damaged hard drive are not very likely to force your CPU into overdrive.
    then...
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    Sounds more like a hardware defect to me.

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    Norton doesn't run in safe mode.
    You don't know Norton, then.


    So lets see... Computers exist only of RAM and HDD. Is that what you're trying to say?

    Where is Mainboard, PCI/PCI-E/AGP expansion? Where is the CD-ROM player?
    Where is the north/south bridge? Where is the CPU?

    Like I said use a program such as PCCHECK. (Try googling for it, broaden your horizon a bit)

    And yes, I do 'know' Norton. I also 'know' Windows.

    Show me proof where it says that Norton runs in safe mode and stop sounding like a broken record.



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    Re: system process eating all of cpu
    « Reply #23 on: December 21, 2008, 02:08:29 PM »
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    Show me proof where it says that Norton runs in safe mode and stop sounding like a broken record.
    I really doubt, you'll ever admit, that anyone else may be right, but you, so this is gonna be my last argument in any discussion with you.
    You want a proof? Here we go...
    I'm not sure, if you're familiar with GMER program (Google it, and broaden your horizon a bit), so it's a program, which shows all ROOT processes running on your computer.
    Below, is a partial log from a computer, which has Norton installed.
    Link: http://discussions.virtualdr.com/showthread.php?t=235488&highlight=gmer
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    ---- Devices - GMER 1.0.14 ----

    AttachedDevice \FileSystem\Ntfs \Ntfs SYMEVENT.SYS (Symantec Event Library/Symantec Corporation)
    AttachedDevice \Driver\Tcpip \Device\Ip SYMTDI.SYS (Network Dispatch Driver/Symantec Corporation)
    AttachedDevice \Driver\Kbdclass \Device\KeyboardClass0 SynTP.sys (Synaptics Touchpad Driver/Synaptics, Inc.)
    AttachedDevice \Driver\Kbdclass \Device\KeyboardClass1 SynTP.sys (Synaptics Touchpad Driver/Synaptics, Inc.)
    AttachedDevice \Driver\Tcpip \Device\Tcp SYMTDI.SYS (Network Dispatch Driver/Symantec Corporation)
    AttachedDevice \Driver\Tcpip \Device\Udp SYMTDI.SYS (Network Dispatch Driver/Symantec Corporation)
    AttachedDevice \Driver\Tcpip \Device\RawIp SYMTDI.SYS (Network Dispatch Driver/Symantec Corporation)
    AttachedDevice \FileSystem\Fastfat \Fat SYMEVENT.SYS (Symantec Event Library/Symantec Corporation)
    Take a good look. Can you see Symantec there?


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    Re: system process eating all of cpu
    « Reply #24 on: December 21, 2008, 02:13:05 PM »
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    Take a good look. Can you see Symantec there?

    Yup. And that was loaded in safe mode?

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    I really doubt, you'll ever admit, that anyone else may be right, but you, so this is gonna be my last argument in any discussion with you.
    You want a proof? Here we go...

    I don't have a problem with being proven wrong. I do have a problem with people trying to prove me wrong and then claim I think I can't be proven wrong without coming with additional information unless I actually ask them for it.

    Which is pretty much your problem in your dealings with anyone judging from your posts.

    By the way, to how many forums are you actually registered?


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    Re: system process eating all of cpu
    « Reply #25 on: December 21, 2008, 05:22:02 PM »
    i understand that you tested the HD and it was ok...

    just for thought... backup what you need and install a new hard drive and see what happens.

    it maybe ok now but  it might be ready to go to HD Heaven

     :'(
    spider

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      Re: system process eating all of cpu
      « Reply #26 on: December 21, 2008, 07:17:45 PM »
      Okay, guys...time out!

      It's rare for "system" to run at 100% CPU. 

      Normally, when I see it happen, it's usually during a file copy operation over the network.

      In any case, try looking in the Event Viewer:

      Start -> Run -> eventvwr -> press Enter -> check Application and System for any red X's.

      Also, looking at your Process Explorer results, it's going to be one of the "subprocesses" under "System." 

      In this case:

      Code: [Select]
      System   4   100.00     
        smss.exe   372      Windows NT Session Manager   Microsoft Corporation
         csrss.exe   528      Client Server Runtime Process   Microsoft Corporation
         winlogon.exe   556      Windows NT Logon Application   Microsoft Corporation
          services.exe   600      Services and Controller app   Microsoft Corporation
           ati2evxx.exe   756      ATI External Event Utility EXE Module   ATI Technologies Inc.
           svchost.exe   768      Generic Host Process for Win32 Services   Microsoft Corporation
           svchost.exe   872      Generic Host Process for Win32 Services   Microsoft Corporation
           svchost.exe   936      Generic Host Process for Win32 Services   Microsoft Corporation
            wuauclt.exe   2020      Automatic Updates   Microsoft Corporation
           svchost.exe   1028      Generic Host Process for Win32 Services   Microsoft Corporation
           svchost.exe   1240      Generic Host Process for Win32 Services   Microsoft Corporation
           ccSetMgr.exe   1420      Symantec Settings Manager Service   Symantec Corporation
           ccEvtMgr.exe   1448      Symantec Event Manager Service   Symantec Corporation
           ccProxy.exe   1528      Symantec Network Proxy Service   Symantec Corporation
           spoolsv.exe   1656      Spooler SubSystem App   Microsoft Corporation
           navapsvc.exe   1896      Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect Service   Symantec Corporation
           wdfmgr.exe   192      Windows User Mode Driver Manager   Microsoft Corporation
           symlcsvc.exe   2080      Symantec Core Component   Symantec Corporation
           SNDSrvc.exe   2328      Network Driver Service   Symantec Corporation
           NSCSRVCE.EXE   3484      Norton Security Console Norton Protection Center Service   Symantec Corporation
          lsass.exe   612      LSA Shell (Export Version)   Microsoft Corporation
          ati2evxx.exe   1176      ATI External Event Utility EXE Module   ATI Technologies Inc.

      Since there are an awful lot of Symantec processes there, Broni could very well be correct.

      Norton (consumer-grade Symantec) products do have a reputation for being bloated.  Business-grade Symantec products (Symantec Antivirus Corporate Edition, Symantec Endpoint Protection) don't seem as bad, though.

      Try uninstalling Norton.  Best case scenario, the problem is solved and you can look towards alternatives for anti-virus and software firewall protection.  Worst case scenario, that doesn't solve the problem and you can reinstall your Norton stuff if you wish.
      « Last Edit: December 21, 2008, 07:32:03 PM by killerb255 »
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      Part of the problem is most people don't generally deal with computer problems. So for most they think that close enough is good enough.

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      Re: system process eating all of cpu
      « Reply #27 on: December 21, 2008, 07:30:25 PM »
      killerb255 you are corrcet, Norton does eat alot of your process.

      spider :P

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        Re: system process eating all of cpu
        « Reply #28 on: December 21, 2008, 10:10:17 PM »
        Thanks for all the posts!  I am sorry if my problem has caused some arguments I just want to get it fixed...

        I had iuninstall Norton as part of te "uninstalled everything" I mentioned in my original post.. (it came back when I reinstalled) ...but I did it again anyways.   Once again, it did not help.  That process explorer post was not very well formatted, but every one of those sub-processes has
        its own "CPU" column....sometimes a small number pops up there momentarily and then goes away...but at the time of the posting they were all
        blank...indicating node of them were eating any cpu it shows only the parent process (system) as eating any cpu...

        I have cloned the hard drive - the machine has the problem with the new drive as well. I have also reinstalled the orignal drive.
        I have tried safe mode as well as disabling all services and startup items via msconfig....

        I have run PC-doctor diags on the cpu and motherboard as well as the built-in HP diagnostics.  I have also run other hard disk and memory
        checkers. Nothing has shown any hardware problem.  I have also unplugged the CD-ROM and swapped memory cards. I am  sorry I cannot find anything called PCCheck  (or at leasy anything that's free).  I am happy to run any free good hardware diag tool anyone can suggest.  I don't
        think I want to run any more disk or memory diag tools though I think I have done enouh there to show those aren't the cause.









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        Re: system process eating all of cpu
        « Reply #29 on: December 22, 2008, 03:27:07 AM »
        So, you have two hard drives with identical copies? How about a reformat of one and a fresh installation of XP to see if the problem persists?

        Have you tried the latest Norton removal tool?