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tony_g

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Newbie help please!!
« on: April 24, 2005, 07:55:01 AM »
 Hi all, for the last week i have had a very slow running IE and its driving me to despair now. Basically it tries to load the home page which is google and almost immediately shuts the computer down and very slowly loads. It never fails to actually load but takes too long. I have since downloaded Firefox and that works fine. I should also mention that when i log on to a non admin account the IE works at normal speed. After browsing this site i have downloaded hijackthis and have a scan report if anyone would like to view it. BTW I'm on XP home and IE6 and have norton 2005 installed as well as freeware version of ad aware and spybot.
Thanks in advance
Tony

tony_g

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Re: Newbie help please!!
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2005, 11:58:02 PM »
10 views but no ideas?  ??? should i post the log files?
Tony

tony_g

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Re: Newbie help please!!
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2005, 12:01:44 AM »
just in case


Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.1
Scan saved at 13:54:34, on 24/04/2005
Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP2 (6.00.2900.2180)

Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\S24EvMon.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccSetMgr.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\SNDSrvc.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\SPBBC\SPBBCSvc.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccEvtMgr.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\LEXBCES.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\system32\LEXPPS.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccProxy.exe
C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\navapsvc.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\RegSrvc.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\CCPD-LC\symlcsvc.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\Security Center\SymWSC.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ZCfgSvc.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\System32\1XConfig.exe
C:\WINDOWS\BCMSMMSG.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\hkcmd.exe
C:\Program Files\Apoint\Apoint.exe
C:\Program Files\Dell\QuickSet\quickset.exe
C:\Program Files\Intel\NCS\PROSet\PRONoMgr.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\dla\tfswctrl.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\DSentry.exe
C:\Program Files\Dell\Media Experience\PCMService.exe
C:\Program Files\Dell AIO Printer A920\dlbkbmgr.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccApp.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\WANADO~1\Wanadoo Messenger.exe
C:\Program Files\QuickTime\qttask.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Xhrmy.exe
C:\Program Files\Thomson\SpeedTouch USB\Dragdiag.exe
C:\Program Files\Error Nuker\bin\ErrorNuker.exe
C:\Program Files\Dell AIO Printer A920\dlbkbmon.exe
C:\Program Files\Microsoft ActiveSync\WCESCOMM.EXE
C:\Program Files\Apoint\Apntex.exe
C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\msimn.exe
C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe
C:\DOCUME~1\tg1\LOCALS~1\Temp\Temporary Directory 1 for hijackthis.zip\HijackThis.exe

R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Page_URL = http://www.euro.dell.com/countries/uk/enu/gen/default.htm
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Page_URL = http://www.euro.dell.com/countries/uk/enu/gen/default.htm
O2 - BHO: AcroIEHlprObj Class - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} - C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 6.0\Reader\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {53707962-6F74-2D53-2644-206D7942484F} - C:\PROGRA~1\SPYBOT~1\SDHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: DriveLetterAccess - {5CA3D70E-1895-11CF-8E15-001234567890} - C:\WINDOWS\system32\dla\tfswshx.dll
O2 - BHO: Web assistant - {9ECB9560-04F9-4bbc-943D-298DDF1699E1} - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\AdBlocking\NISShExt.dll
O2 - BHO: NAV Helper - {BDF3E430-B101-42AD-A544-FADC6B084872} - C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\NavShExt.dll
O3 - Toolbar: Web assistant - {0B53EAC3-8D69-4b9e-9B19-A37C9A5676A7} - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\AdBlocking\NISShExt.dll
O3 - Toolbar: Norton AntiVirus - {42CDD1BF-3FFB-4238-8AD1-7859DF00B1D6} - C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\NavShExt.dll
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [BCMSMMSG] BCMSMMSG.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [IgfxTray] C:\WINDOWS\system32\igfxtray.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [HotKeysCmds] C:\WINDOWS\system32\hkcmd.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Apoint] C:\Program Files\Apoint\Apoint.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Dell QuickSet] C:\Program Files\Dell\QuickSet\quickset.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [PRONoMgr.exe] C:\Program Files\Intel\NCS\PROSet\PRONoMgr.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [dla] C:\WINDOWS\system32\dla\tfswctrl.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [DVDSentry] C:\WINDOWS\System32\DSentry.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [PCMService] "C:\Program Files\Dell\Media Experience\PCMService.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Dell AIO Printer A920] "C:\Program Files\Dell AIO Printer A920\dlbkbmgr.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [UpdateManager] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Sonic\Update Manager\sgtray.exe" /r
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ccApp] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccApp.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [URLLSTCK.exe] C:\Program Files\Norton Internet Security\UrlLstCk.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [PinnacleDriverCheck] C:\WINDOWS\System32\PSDrvCheck.exe -CheckReg
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Wanadoo Messenger.exe] "C:\PROGRA~1\WANADO~1\Wanadoo Messenger.exe" /background

tony_g

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Re: Newbie help please!!
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2005, 12:02:15 AM »
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Symantec NetDriver Monitor] C:\PROGRA~1\SYMNET~1\SNDMon.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [QuickTime Task] "C:\Program Files\QuickTime\qttask.exe" -atboottime
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [xhrmy] C:\WINDOWS\Xhrmy.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SpeedTouch USB Diagnostics] "C:\Program Files\Thomson\SpeedTouch USB\Dragdiag.exe" /icon
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Error Nuker] C:\Program Files\Error Nuker\bin\ErrorNuker.exe autostart
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [1] Ô
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [H/PC Connection Agent] "C:\Program Files\Microsoft ActiveSync\WCESCOMM.EXE"
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [xhrmy] C:\WINDOWS\Xhrmy.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [MSMSGS] "C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe" /background
O4 - Startup: PowerReg Scheduler V3.exe
O4 - Global Startup: ONSPEED.lnk = C:\Program Files\ONSPEED\onspeed.exe
O8 - Extra context menu item: E&xport to Microsoft Excel - res://C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~3\OFFICE11\EXCEL.EXE/3000
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\WINDOWS\System32\msjava.dll (file missing)
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Sun Java Console - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\WINDOWS\System32\msjava.dll (file missing)
O9 - Extra button: Create Mobile Favorite - {2EAF5BB1-070F-11D3-9307-00C04FAE2D4F} - C:\Program Files\Microsoft ActiveSync\INetRepl.dll
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {2EAF5BB2-070F-11D3-9307-00C04FAE2D4F} - C:\Program Files\Microsoft ActiveSync\INetRepl.dll
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Create Mobile Favorite... - {2EAF5BB2-070F-11D3-9307-00C04FAE2D4F} - C:\Program Files\Microsoft ActiveSync\INetRepl.dll
O9 - Extra button: Research - {92780B25-18CC-41C8-B9BE-3C9C571A8263} - C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~3\OFFICE11\REFIEBAR.DLL
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {CD67F990-D8E9-11d2-98FE-00C0F0318AFE} - (no file)
O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Windows Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O16 - DPF: {1F2F4C9E-6F09-47BC-970D-3C54734667FE} (LSSupCtl Class) - http://www.symantec.com/techsupp/asa/LSSupCtl.cab
O16 - DPF: {CE28D5D2-60CF-4C7D-9FE8-0F47A3308078} (ActiveDataInfo Class) - http://www.symantec.com/techsupp/asa/SymAData.cab
O17 - HKLM\System\CCS\Services\Tcpip\..\{361A4952-E807-4400-BEBD-B4375CED78EF}: NameServer = 195.92.195.95 195.92.195.94
O20 - Winlogon Notify: igfxcui - C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\igfxsrvc.dll
O20 - Winlogon Notify: Sebring - C:\WINDOWS\System32\LgNotify.dll
O23 - Service: Symantec Event Manager (ccEvtMgr) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccEvtMgr.exe
O23 - Service: Symantec Network Proxy (ccProxy) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccProxy.exe
O23 - Service: Symantec Password Validation (ccPwdSvc) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccPwdSvc.exe
O23 - Service: Symantec Settings Manager (ccSetMgr) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccSetMgr.exe
O23 - Service: Windows Login (Ex) - Unknown owner - C:\WINDOWS\System32\explored.exe" -service (file missing)
O23 - Service: LexBce Server (LexBceS) - Lexmark International, Inc. - C:\WINDOWS\system32\LEXBCES.EXE
O23 - Service: Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect Service (navapsvc) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\navapsvc.exe
O23 - Service: Intel NCS NetService (NetSvc) - Intel(R) Corporation - C:\Program Files\Intel\NCS\Sync\NetSvc.exe
O23 - Service: Norton AntiVirus Firewall Monitor Service (NPFMntor) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\IWP\NPFMntor.exe
O23 - Service: RegSrvc - Intel Corporation - C:\WINDOWS\System32\RegSrvc.exe
O23 - Service: Spectrum24 Event Monitor (S24EventMonitor) - Intel Corporation  - C:\WINDOWS\System32\S24EvMon.exe
O23 - Service: SAVScan - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\SAVScan.exe
O23 - Service: ScriptBlocking Service (SBService) - Symantec Corporation - C:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\SYMANT~1\SCRIPT~1\SBServ.exe
O23 - Service: Symantec Network Drivers Service (SNDSrvc) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\SNDSrvc.exe
O23 - Service: Symantec SPBBCSvc (SPBBCSvc) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\SPBBC\SPBBCSvc.exe
O23 - Service: Symantec Core LC - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\CCPD-LC\symlcsvc.exe
O23 - Service: SymWMI Service (SymWSC) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\Security Center\SymWSC.exe


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    Re: Newbie help please!!
    « Reply #4 on: April 25, 2005, 12:06:53 AM »
    You can check your hijack logfile here http://www.hijackthis.de/index.php?langselect=english and post it in here too.
    My gut feeling says to download and run cwshredder from intermute too.
    Keep us posted.

    dl65

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      Re: Newbie help please!!
      « Reply #5 on: April 25, 2005, 01:03:03 PM »
      tony_g....Just had a look at your log .....and I you should mark for removal the following :
      O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [xhrmy] C:\WINDOWS\Xhrmy.exe
      O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [xhrmy] C:\WINDOWS\Xhrmy.exe
      O4 - Startup: PowerReg Scheduler V3.exe
      O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\WINDOWS\System32\msjava.dll (file missing)
      O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Sun Java Console - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\WINDOWS\System32\msjava.dll (file missing)
      O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {CD67F990-D8E9-11d2-98FE-00C0F0318AFE} - (no file)
      O23 - Service: Windows Login (Ex) - Unknown owner - C:\WINDOWS\System32\explored.exe" -service (file missing)

      Click fix marked ....reboot and let us know how it is .

      dl65  ::)
      « Last Edit: April 25, 2005, 01:03:40 PM by dl65 »
      If you don't know the answer, it isn't a dumb question.

      tony_g

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      Re: Newbie help please!!
      « Reply #6 on: April 25, 2005, 01:06:43 PM »
      dl65 iwas hoping you were going to turn up! when you say mark for removal do you mean in the hijackthis site? sorry for being thick but its all new to me. Thanks for reply by the way
      Tony

      tony_g

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      Re: Newbie help please!!
      « Reply #7 on: April 25, 2005, 01:21:35 PM »
      ok i think ive just done that.Now i'll reboot and be back
      Tony

      tony_g

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      Re: Newbie help please!!
      « Reply #8 on: April 25, 2005, 01:36:54 PM »
      No change with explorer its still very slow

      tony_g

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      Re: Newbie help please!!
      « Reply #9 on: April 25, 2005, 02:04:58 PM »
      Looking at the logfile analysis from hijackthis and i noticed this O23 - Service: Windows Login (Ex) - Unknown owner - C:\WINDOWS\System32\explored.exe" -service (file missing)
      This is an exe file i had trouble with a long time ago that caused a dialer error and stopped me connecting to symantec to check for updates. It originally set up in a folder called etc (not sure exactly where that is ).I tried to fix it with hijackthis but it wont go away. Could this be a problem? New logfile to follow.

      tony_g

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      Re: Newbie help please!!
      « Reply #10 on: April 25, 2005, 02:11:47 PM »
      Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.1
      Scan saved at 21:09:36, on 25/04/2005
      Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
      MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP2 (6.00.2900.2180)

      Running processes:
      C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
      C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
      C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
      C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
      C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
      C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
      C:\WINDOWS\System32\S24EvMon.exe
      C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccSetMgr.exe
      C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\SNDSrvc.exe
      C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\SPBBC\SPBBCSvc.exe
      C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccEvtMgr.exe
      C:\WINDOWS\system32\LEXBCES.EXE
      C:\WINDOWS\system32\LEXPPS.EXE
      C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
      C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccProxy.exe
      C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\navapsvc.exe
      C:\WINDOWS\System32\RegSrvc.exe
      C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
      C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\CCPD-LC\symlcsvc.exe
      C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\Security Center\SymWSC.exe
      C:\WINDOWS\system32\ZCfgSvc.exe
      C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
      C:\WINDOWS\System32\1XConfig.exe
      C:\WINDOWS\BCMSMMSG.exe
      C:\WINDOWS\system32\hkcmd.exe
      C:\Program Files\Apoint\Apoint.exe
      C:\Program Files\Dell\QuickSet\quickset.exe
      C:\Program Files\Intel\NCS\PROSet\PRONoMgr.exe
      C:\WINDOWS\system32\dla\tfswctrl.exe
      C:\WINDOWS\System32\DSentry.exe
      C:\Program Files\Dell\Media Experience\PCMService.exe
      C:\Program Files\Dell AIO Printer A920\dlbkbmgr.exe
      C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccApp.exe
      C:\PROGRA~1\WANADO~1\Wanadoo Messenger.exe
      C:\Program Files\Dell AIO Printer A920\dlbkbmon.exe
      C:\Program Files\QuickTime\qttask.exe
      C:\Program Files\Thomson\SpeedTouch USB\Dragdiag.exe
      C:\Program Files\Error Nuker\bin\ErrorNuker.exe
      C:\Program Files\Microsoft ActiveSync\WCESCOMM.EXE
      C:\Program Files\Apoint\Apntex.exe
      C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
      C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe
      C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
      C:\DOCUME~1\tg1\LOCALS~1\Temp\Temporary Directory 5 for hijackthis.zip\HijackThis.exe

      tony_g

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      Re: Newbie help please!!
      « Reply #11 on: April 25, 2005, 02:14:49 PM »

      O2 - BHO: DriveLetterAccess - {5CA3D70E-1895-11CF-8E15-001234567890} - C:\WINDOWS\system32\dla\tfswshx.dll
      O2 - BHO: Web assistant - {9ECB9560-04F9-4bbc-943D-298DDF1699E1} - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\AdBlocking\NISShExt.dll
      O2 - BHO: NAV Helper - {BDF3E430-B101-42AD-A544-FADC6B084872} - C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\NavShExt.dll
      O3 - Toolbar: Web assistant - {0B53EAC3-8D69-4b9e-9B19-A37C9A5676A7} - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\AdBlocking\NISShExt.dll
      O3 - Toolbar: Norton AntiVirus - {42CDD1BF-3FFB-4238-8AD1-7859DF00B1D6} - C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\NavShExt.dll
      O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [BCMSMMSG] BCMSMMSG.exe
      O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [IgfxTray] C:\WINDOWS\system32\igfxtray.exe
      O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [HotKeysCmds] C:\WINDOWS\system32\hkcmd.exe
      O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Apoint] C:\Program Files\Apoint\Apoint.exe
      O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Dell QuickSet] C:\Program Files\Dell\QuickSet\quickset.exe
      O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [PRONoMgr.exe] C:\Program Files\Intel\NCS\PROSet\PRONoMgr.exe
      O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [dla] C:\WINDOWS\system32\dla\tfswctrl.exe
      O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [DVDSentry] C:\WINDOWS\System32\DSentry.exe
      O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [PCMService] "C:\Program Files\Dell\Media Experience\PCMService.exe"
      O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Dell AIO Printer A920] "C:\Program Files\Dell AIO Printer A920\dlbkbmgr.exe"
      O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ccApp] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccApp.exe"
      O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [URLLSTCK.exe] C:\Program Files\Norton Internet Security\UrlLstCk.exe
      O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Wanadoo Messenger.exe] "C:\PROGRA~1\WANADO~1\Wanadoo Messenger.exe" /background
      O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Symantec NetDriver Monitor] C:\PROGRA~1\SYMNET~1\SNDMon.exe
      O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [QuickTime Task] "C:\Program Files\QuickTime\qttask.exe" -atboottime
      O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SpeedTouch USB Diagnostics] "C:\Program Files\Thomson\SpeedTouch USB\Dragdiag.exe" /icon
      O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Error Nuker] C:\Program Files\Error Nuker\bin\ErrorNuker.exe autostart
      O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [1] Ô
      O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [H/PC Connection Agent] "C:\Program Files\Microsoft ActiveSync\WCESCOMM.EXE"
      O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [MSMSGS] "C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe" /background
      O4 - Global Startup: ONSPEED.lnk = C:\Program Files\ONSPEED\onspeed.exe
      O8 - Extra context menu item: E&xport to Microsoft Excel - res://C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~3\OFFICE11\EXCEL.EXE/3000
      O9 - Extra button: Create Mobile Favorite - {2EAF5BB1-070F-11D3-9307-00C04FAE2D4F} - C:\Program Files\Microsoft ActiveSync\INetRepl.dll
      O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {2EAF5BB2-070F-11D3-9307-00C04FAE2D4F} - C:\Program Files\Microsoft ActiveSync\INetRepl.dll
      O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Create Mobile Favorite... - {2EAF5BB2-070F-11D3-9307-00C04FAE2D4F} - C:\Program Files\Microsoft ActiveSync\INetRepl.dll
      O9 - Extra button: Research - {92780B25-18CC-41C8-B9BE-3C9C571A8263} - C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~3\OFFICE11\REFIEBAR.DLL
      O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
      O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Windows Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
      O16 - DPF: {1F2F4C9E-6F09-47BC-970D-3C54734667FE} (LSSupCtl Class) - http://www.symantec.com/techsupp/asa/LSSupCtl.cab
      O16 - DPF: {CE28D5D2-60CF-4C7D-9FE8-0F47A3308078} (ActiveDataInfo Class) - http://www.symantec.com/techsupp/asa/SymAData.cab
      O17 - HKLM\System\CCS\Services\Tcpip\..\{361A4952-E807-4400-BEBD-B4375CED78EF}: NameServer = 195.92.195.94 195.92.195.95
      O20 - Winlogon Notify: igfxcui -

      tony_g

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      Re: Newbie help please!!
      « Reply #12 on: April 25, 2005, 02:18:36 PM »
      O20 - Winlogon Notify: Sebring - C:\WINDOWS\System32\LgNotify.dll
      O23 - Service: Symantec Event Manager (ccEvtMgr) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccEvtMgr.exe
      O23 - Service: Symantec Network Proxy (ccProxy) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccProxy.exe
      O23 - Service: Symantec Password Validation (ccPwdSvc) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccPwdSvc.exe
      O23 - Service: Symantec Settings Manager (ccSetMgr) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccSetMgr.exe
      O23 - Service: Windows Login (Ex) - Unknown owner - C:\WINDOWS\System32\explored.exe" -service (file missing)
      O23 - Service: LexBce Server (LexBceS) - Lexmark International, Inc. - C:\WINDOWS\system32\LEXBCES.EXE
      O23 - Service: Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect Service (navapsvc) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\navapsvc.exe
      O23 - Service: Intel NCS NetService (NetSvc) - Intel(R) Corporation - C:\Program Files\Intel\NCS\Sync\NetSvc.exe
      O23 - Service: Norton AntiVirus Firewall Monitor Service (NPFMntor) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\IWP\NPFMntor.exe
      O23 - Service: RegSrvc - Intel Corporation - C:\WINDOWS\System32\RegSrvc.exe
      O23 - Service: Spectrum24 Event Monitor (S24EventMonitor) - Intel Corporation  - C:\WINDOWS\System32\S24EvMon.exe
      O23 - Service: SAVScan - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\SAVScan.exe
      O23 - Service: ScriptBlocking Service (SBService) - Symantec Corporation - C:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\SYMANT~1\SCRIPT~1\SBServ.exe
      O23 - Service: Symantec Network Drivers Service (SNDSrvc) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\SNDSrvc.exe
      O23 - Service: Symantec SPBBCSvc (SPBBCSvc) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\SPBBC\SPBBCSvc.exe
      O23 - Service: Symantec Core LC - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\CCPD-LC\symlcsvc.exe
      O23 - Service: SymWMI Service (SymWSC) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\Security Center\SymWSC.exe


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        Re: Newbie help please!!
        « Reply #13 on: April 26, 2005, 02:04:11 AM »
        Out of interest, did you run cwshredder?
        Because I'm lazy here's a copy of a post to someone else that is applicable to you too.

        Just to convince me you don't have any bugs, download, install, update & run 'ewido' & 'windows anti-spyware beta' programs. Both are easily searched & obtained.
        In addition, do an online scan here http://www.pandasoftware.com/activescan/ and we'll see where that lands us.

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        Re: Newbie help please!!
        « Reply #14 on: April 26, 2005, 11:39:02 AM »
        Fed, thanks for reply, no i havnt run it yet. I did wonder if the freeware version was what you meant and does it actually find and delete stuff? I'm fed up with getting so far and then they want money to clear the"problems" and buying over the net while ive got a possible attacker in my system is not on my list of things to do lol. If you (or others) feel the freeware one is ok to  use i'll give it a go.
        Tony

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          Re: Newbie help please!!
          « Reply #15 on: April 26, 2005, 12:47:10 PM »
          tony_g........Several things ........Slow loading could well be the work of spyware , adware or even trojans .......
          Hijack this was designed to clean out hijackers , however , I have noticed that it does a pretty good job of pointing out trojans as well .
          A page hijacker is a pest that changes your home page from what you ewant to something else .
          I would consider making sure your pc is clean of spyware and adware ......as FED has suggested.
          Please go to ...... http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx   and download Antispyware Beta .....it is free and is fully functional .......( and it works very well )

          Run Antispyware and delete what it finds ......

          let us know

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          Re: Newbie help please!!
          « Reply #16 on: April 26, 2005, 02:59:04 PM »
          dl65 i have done as you suggested and downloaded microsoft anti spyware and it found only AT Games (Adware) so i removed it. Restarted computer and set IE  as default browser again but still almost shuts down and loads really slowly. What i'm a bit confused with regarding hijackthis is when i click the programs it recommends or is not sure of and delete them (or fix them) i run another scan and they are still there. Its still running good on firefox but i'm worried in case someone has real time access to my system. Thanks again for your suggestions. BTW in case you wonder about the times of posting i'm in the UK.As a non computer expert  i would also like to know what should be running in task manager to allow normal operation as i seem to have a huge list of things some with mem usage of 20meg, is this normal?
          Tony

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          Re: Newbie help please!!
          « Reply #17 on: April 26, 2005, 03:45:50 PM »
          Ok i thought i had a breakthrough there but no! I ran Antispyware again this time with a deep scan instead of a quick one and got the following detected:
          windows Adtools Adware (2 signatures)
          Megasearch Toolbar Settings Modifier
          SecondThought. A Trojan (2 signatures)
          LinkReplacer Browser Plug-in
          Trojan. Startup.Xhrmy  (3 signatures)
          PowerReg (3signatures)


          I removed all except power reg which i quarantined and restarted computer but still the same
          Interestingly when it was scanning a couple of times the computer went into the hard drive shutting down and immediately back on as i experience when IE loads, whether that's of any significance i dont know. I have all the set up discs from when the computer was delivered (dell laptop) and i'm now thinking would a total re-install be worthwhile? If so i dont know where to start- the blue screen is scary to me    ???

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            Re: Newbie help please!!
            « Reply #18 on: April 26, 2005, 04:48:55 PM »
            tony_g ......You say ...

            "What i'm a bit confused with regarding hijackthis is when i click the programs it recommends or is not sure of and delete them (or fix them) ."

            What programs is hijackthis telling you to click on ......
            hijackthis is just a removal program . You just put a mark in the square in front of the item number and when you click on fix marked ....those entries are removed .

            I sent you a number of entries which you must remove from your system .......So to do this .........have hijackthis open ...and then put a check mark in the box in front of the appropriate item number.........using the list I sent you to identify which item to remove .  ( there are 7 to be marked )  Next click on "fix checked"  now reboot and post the changed log file here for me to look at .

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            Re: Newbie help please!!
            « Reply #19 on: April 27, 2005, 12:06:45 AM »
            I was doing that in regard to checking the relevant boxes and restarting etc but it kept showing :    O23 - Service: Windows Login (Ex) - Unknown owner - C:\WINDOWS\System32\explored.exe" -service (file missing)
            new log file is:

            Running processes:
            C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
            C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
            C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
            C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
            C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
            C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
            C:\WINDOWS\System32\S24EvMon.exe
            C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccSetMgr.exe
            C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\SNDSrvc.exe
            C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\SPBBC\SPBBCSvc.exe
            C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccEvtMgr.exe
            C:\WINDOWS\system32\LEXBCES.EXE
            C:\WINDOWS\system32\LEXPPS.EXE
            C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
            C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccProxy.exe
            C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\navapsvc.exe
            C:\WINDOWS\System32\RegSrvc.exe
            C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
            C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\CCPD-LC\symlcsvc.exe
            C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\Security Center\SymWSC.exe
            C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
            C:\WINDOWS\system32\ZCfgSvc.exe
            C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
            C:\WINDOWS\System32\1XConfig.exe
            C:\WINDOWS\system32\wuauclt.exe
            C:\WINDOWS\BCMSMMSG.exe
            C:\Program Files\Apoint\Apoint.exe
            C:\Program Files\Dell\QuickSet\quickset.exe
            C:\WINDOWS\system32\dla\tfswctrl.exe
            C:\WINDOWS\System32\DSentry.exe
            C:\Program Files\Dell\Media Experience\PCMService.exe
            C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccApp.exe
            C:\Program Files\QuickTime\qttask.exe
            C:\Program Files\Thomson\SpeedTouch USB\Dragdiag.exe
            C:\Program Files\Error Nuker\bin\ErrorNuker.exe
            C:\Program Files\Microsoft AntiSpyware\gcasServ.exe
            C:\Program Files\Microsoft ActiveSync\WCESCOMM.EXE
            C:\Program Files\Apoint\Apntex.exe
            C:\Program Files\Microsoft AntiSpyware\gcasDtServ.exe
            C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
            C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\msimn.exe
            C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\OPScan.exe
            C:\PROGRA~1\MOZILL~1\FIREFOX.EXE
            C:\DOCUME~1\tg1\LOCALS~1\Temp\Temporary Directory 8 for hijackthis.zip\HijackThis.exe

            O2 - BHO: DriveLetterAccess - {5CA3D70E-1895-11CF-8E15-001234567890} - C:\WINDOWS\system32\dla\tfswshx.dll
            O2 - BHO: Web assistant - {9ECB9560-04F9-4bbc-943D-298DDF1699E1} - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\AdBlocking\NISShExt.dll
            O2 - BHO: NAV Helper - {BDF3E430-B101-42AD-A544-FADC6B084872} - C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\NavShExt.dll
            O3 - Toolbar: Web assistant - {0B53EAC3-8D69-4b9e-9B19-A37C9A5676A7} - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\AdBlocking\NISShExt.dll
            O3 - Toolbar: Norton AntiVirus - {42CDD1BF-3FFB-4238-8AD1-7859DF00B1D6} - C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\NavShExt.dll
            O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [BCMSMMSG] BCMSMMSG.exe
            O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [IgfxTray] C:\WINDOWS\system32\igfxtray.exe
            O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Apoint] C:\Program Files\Apoint\Apoint.exe

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            Re: Newbie help please!!
            « Reply #20 on: April 27, 2005, 12:08:00 AM »
            O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Dell QuickSet] C:\Program Files\Dell\QuickSet\quickset.exe
            O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [PRONoMgr.exe] C:\Program Files\Intel\NCS\PROSet\PRONoMgr.exe
            O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [dla] C:\WINDOWS\system32\dla\tfswctrl.exe
            O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [DVDSentry] C:\WINDOWS\System32\DSentry.exe
            O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [PCMService] "C:\Program Files\Dell\Media Experience\PCMService.exe"
            O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ccApp] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccApp.exe"
            O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [URLLSTCK.exe] C:\Program Files\Norton Internet Security\UrlLstCk.exe
            O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Symantec NetDriver Monitor] C:\PROGRA~1\SYMNET~1\SNDMon.exe
            O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [QuickTime Task] "C:\Program Files\QuickTime\qttask.exe" -atboottime
            O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SpeedTouch USB Diagnostics] "C:\Program Files\Thomson\SpeedTouch USB\Dragdiag.exe" /icon
            O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Error Nuker] C:\Program Files\Error Nuker\bin\ErrorNuker.exe autostart
            O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [gcasServ] "C:\Program Files\Microsoft AntiSpyware\gcasServ.exe"
            O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [1] Ô
            O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [H/PC Connection Agent] "C:\Program Files\Microsoft ActiveSync\WCESCOMM.EXE"
            O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [MSMSGS] "C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe" /background
            O8 - Extra context menu item: E&xport to Microsoft Excel - res://C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~3\OFFICE11\EXCEL.EXE/3000
            O9 - Extra button: Create Mobile Favorite - {2EAF5BB1-070F-11D3-9307-00C04FAE2D4F} - C:\Program Files\Microsoft ActiveSync\INetRepl.dll
            O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {2EAF5BB2-070F-11D3-9307-00C04FAE2D4F} - C:\Program Files\Microsoft ActiveSync\INetRepl.dll
            O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Create Mobile Favorite... - {2EAF5BB2-070F-11D3-9307-00C04FAE2D4F} - C:\Program Files\Microsoft ActiveSync\INetRepl.dll
            O9 - Extra button: Research - {92780B25-18CC-41C8-B9BE-3C9C571A8263} - C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~3\OFFICE11\REFIEBAR.DLL
            O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
            O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Windows Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
            O16 - DPF: {1F2F4C9E-6F09-47BC-970D-3C54734667FE} (LSSupCtl Class) - http://www.symantec.com/techsupp/asa/LSSupCtl.cab
            O16 - DPF: {CE28D5D2-60CF-4C7D-9FE8-0F47A3308078} (ActiveDataInfo Class) - http://www.symantec.com/techsupp/asa/SymAData.cab
            O17 - HKLM\System\CCS\Services\Tcpip\..\{361A4952-E807-4400-BEBD-B4375CED78EF}: NameServer = 195.92.195.95 195.92.195.94
            O20 - Winlogon Notify: igfxcui - C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\igfxsrvc.dll
            O20 - Winlogon Notify: Sebring - C:\WINDOWS\System32\LgNotify.dll
            O23 - Service: Symantec Event Manager (ccEvtMgr) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccEvtMgr.exe
            O23 - Service: Symantec Network Proxy (ccProxy) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccProxy.exe
            O23 - Service: Symantec Password Validation (ccPwdSvc) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccPwdSvc.exe
            O23 - Service: Symantec Settings Manager (ccSetMgr) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccSetMgr.exe
            O23 - Service: LexBce Server (LexBceS) - Lexmark International, Inc. - C:\WINDOWS\system32\LEXBCES.EXE
            O23 - Service: Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect Service (navapsvc) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\navapsvc.exe
            O23 - Service: Intel NCS NetService (NetSvc) - Intel(R) Corporation - C:\Program Files\Intel\NCS\Sync\NetSvc.exe
            O23 - Service: Norton AntiVirus Firewall Monitor Service (NPFMntor) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\IWP\NPFMntor.exe
            O23 - Service: RegSrvc - Intel Corporation - C:\WINDOWS\System32\RegSrvc.exe
            O23 - Service: Spectrum24 Event Monitor (S24EventMonitor) - Intel Corporation  - C:\WINDOWS\System32\S24EvMon.exe
            O23 - Service: SAVScan - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\SAVScan.exe
            O23 - Service: ScriptBlocking Service (SBService) - Symantec Corporation - C:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\SYMANT~1\SCRIPT~1\SBServ.exe
            O23 - Service: Symantec Network Drivers Service (SNDSrvc) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\SNDSrvc.exe
            O23 - Service: Symantec SPBBCSvc (SPBBCSvc) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\SPBBC\SPBBCSvc.exe
            O23 - Service: Symantec Core LC - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\CCPD-LC\symlcsvc.exe
            O23 - Service: SymWMI Service (SymWSC) - Symantec Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\Security Center\SymWSC.exe

            hope this is of some use. Tony.

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              Re: Newbie help please!!
              « Reply #21 on: April 27, 2005, 12:22:19 AM »
              tony_g......Well , I just went through the latest log and it appears to be clean.
              How is the pc running now ?

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                Re: Newbie help please!!
                « Reply #22 on: April 27, 2005, 01:04:09 AM »
                Tony, this is off the cwshredder program splash screen.
                --------------
                This tool will find and destroy all traces of the
                CoolWebSearch (CWS) hijacker on your system. This
                includes:

                * Redirections to CoolWebSearch related pages
                * Redirections when mistyping URLs
                * Redirections when visiting Google
                * Enormous IE slowdowns when typing
                * IE start page/search page changing on reboot
                * Sites in the IE Trusted Zone you didn't add
                * Popups in Google and Yahoo when searching
                * Errors at startup mentioning WIN.INI or IEDLL.EXE
                * Unable to access antispyware tools or sites

                Click 'Fix' to start removing the infection.
                --------------------------

                It gets down to, not all tools detect all problems (we wish) so a layered approach is best, updating these tools is also essential because they make new signatures as the bugs appear.

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                Re: Newbie help please!!
                « Reply #23 on: April 27, 2005, 11:12:37 AM »
                Fed i'll try that later when im home, thanks mate.  dl65 I ran it again after reboot but still the same.  When i connect to IE the computer (laptop) makes a sound i can only describe as a pool ball dropping onto a table and all whirring from h/d stops for about a second it gradually comes back into play and continues to load very slowly. Could it be a settings thing that has been changed by a virus that is no longer there? Also i tried a system restore last night and i tried as far back as feb 6th and it said i cannot restore to this point although the dates i tried were the bold type, which makes me think this has been affected too  ???

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                  Re: Newbie help please!!
                  « Reply #24 on: April 27, 2005, 01:47:56 PM »
                   tony_g.....Odd , if you had turned off the system restore feature ......you shouldnt have been able to go back ......... The pest may well be in the system restore files .....and when you do a restore you bring them back ....


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                  Re: Newbie help please!!
                  « Reply #25 on: April 27, 2005, 01:53:16 PM »
                  It does seem odd but i guess if its in there (sys restore) it would stop me going to a known good time. Another little suspect thing i thought of is in the log files it lists IP address(s) starting with 195.92 but when i just looked at my properties from task bar screen icons it lists client IP address as another number beginning with 84.65. Am i the said client and should i delete the files with the other numbers in?

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                    Re: Newbie help please!!
                    « Reply #26 on: April 27, 2005, 02:23:36 PM »
                    tony_g  .....  It didn't show up as a threat .....but remove it and see .....it shouldnt hurt anything

                    O17 - HKLM\System\CCS\Services\Tcpip\..\{361A4952-E807-4400-BEBD-B4375CED78EF} : NameServer = 195.92.195.95 195.92.195.94

                    The following is right from M/S.....

                    While this is a desirable feature, in some cases it should be temporarily turned off. For example, if the computer is infected with a virus, then it is possible that the virus could be backed up by System Restore. By default, Windows prevents System Restore from being modified by outside programs. As a result, there is the possibility that you could restore a virus-infected file, or that the on-line scanners would detect the virus in that location.

                    Once system restore is turned off .......all previous restore points are deleted .

                    let us know

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                    « Last Edit: April 27, 2005, 02:30:04 PM by dl65 »
                    If you don't know the answer, it isn't a dumb question.

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                    Re: Newbie help please!!
                    « Reply #27 on: April 27, 2005, 04:00:40 PM »
                    go to blackviper.com.....and disable services......or type msconfig....in the run box......do you  have a celeron cpu.??are you on wanadoo ...broadband......or dial up....are you networking this pc.....norton  anti-virus will slow down a pc?try advanced system optimizer.....from major geeks.com or free ram xp.....

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                    Re: Newbie help please!!
                    « Reply #28 on: April 27, 2005, 04:16:30 PM »
                    merlin_2 hi. yes i have celeron and broad band wanadoo.not networking. i am running norton but i just uninstalled 05 and left 04 on after doing live update and scan.
                    What does the msconfig do?  also what will disable services do in blackviper? sorry for the q's but i'm at end my tether and contemplating ripping out the hard drive

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                      Re: Newbie help please!!
                      « Reply #29 on: April 27, 2005, 05:07:35 PM »
                      Sadly Blackviper has been off the air for some time now, I hope it's only a temporary thing.  :(
                      You can search google for cached copies of the old blackviper site & save it to your computer though.

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                      Re: Newbie help please!!
                      « Reply #30 on: April 27, 2005, 05:46:28 PM »
                      info on how>http://www.overclockersclub.com/guides/windows_xp_services.php

                      also power tools from msoft....tweak.....

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                      Re: Newbie help please!!
                      « Reply #31 on: April 28, 2005, 03:44:11 PM »
                      thanks for that merlin_ i'll try that list tommorow- i seem to be spending more time downloading and checking that actually sleeping lol.
                      On another note i noticed tonight when i went to microsoft site to check for downloads the computer went into slow mode so now i'm suspecting its to do with microsoft stuff as ie is provided by them right? could i be getting blocked or invaded from microsoft stuff only? ps i used firefox which still works great and through them went to m/s then it started to play up and once  could get the thing closed again its up to speed on any other searches!
                      thanks again for the help guys
                      Tony