Author Topic: A Computer dummy needs helps (Read 13323 times)

rejoicing1 · « **on:** May 07, 2005, 06:07:04 PM »

We purchased a new Dell computer in January. MY husband and I have been playing around with the old one, A Gateway2000 Pentium11 with Windows98. We decided we would try and install Windowsxp from the CDrom given us with our new computer!( Are you getting the feeling we are dummies now?!!!).......it installed, but then when we went to do a setup we ran into problems....
How can we remove The XP and start all over, and what can we do?
ps. We are just doing this as a learning experiment and fun so we are not paniced, but we would like to get this set up for our neighbors to use. ( we are both senior citizens and not too computer savey!)
Thank you in advance for any help.
rejoicing1

pcdoc4christ · « **Reply #1 on:** May 07, 2005, 06:13:23 PM »

Rejoicing:

Do you have the Windows 98 SE OEM (or System Restoration) CD that came with the Gateway computer?

Regards,
Doc

rejoicing1 · « **Reply #2 on:** May 07, 2005, 07:02:35 PM »

unfortunately no....we have the Windows 98 updateCD.
By the way, I sure love your ID!! That is why I am a rejoicing1 !!

Flame · « **Reply #3 on:** May 07, 2005, 08:59:20 PM »

The reason that it didn't work is becuase Dell, along with other computer manufacturers have installed a security device, which only allows their computers to have the OS installed on... It's hard to explain, but in simpler terms... You can only use those CDs on the Dell computer... Sorry! :-/

[glb]Flame[/glb]

Mac · « **Reply #4 on:** May 08, 2005, 03:00:29 AM »

Which means that what you are trying to do is illegal. I would format the '98 computer and re-install '98.

A Pentium II and probably too little RAM plus a small drive size is not really good enough for XP.

Still these might come in use...

XP Clean Installing
XP Compatability Test
XP Partition Management
XP Installing Recovery Console

RAM Knowledge Base
RAM And What it Does
RAM Virtual Memory Paging
RAM Reseating & Fitting PDF File

Processor Temperatures
Service Pack Slipstreamer
Power Supply Wattage Calculator
Everest Home Edition Computer Diagnostic Program

PLUS!

RE-INSTALLING WINDOWS 98

rejoicing1 · « **Reply #5 on:** May 08, 2005, 07:46:23 AM »

Wow I didn't know that. I was under the impression that you could use a CD once you purchased it, at least for your OWN use. Thank you. I will try now to reformat and reinstall the Windows 98. Any links on how to do that? Thanks everyone for your help.

Mac · « **Reply #6 on:** May 08, 2005, 08:37:25 AM »

RE-INSTALLING WINDOWS 98

rejoicing1 · « **Reply #7 on:** May 08, 2005, 09:02:34 AM »

Quote

RE-INSTALLING WINDOWS 98

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
One question......when I boot up it asks me what I want to do
1. Windows XP set up or
2.Windows 98.
If I choose Windows 98, it boots up fine as usual.
Is there anyway that I can go in and remove Windows XP,( whatever DID get installed?) In " My computer", what would it look like? I did a search yesterday and by " dates" it would appear that there are a lot of files on the day we tried to install it. I just don't want to go in and remove some important files...........
Hope this makes sense.

pcdoc4christ · « **Reply #8 on:** May 08, 2005, 12:00:27 PM »

<----- Agrees with Flame

pcdoc4christ · « **Reply #9 on:** May 08, 2005, 12:08:57 PM »

Quote

unfortunately no....we have the Windows 98 updateCD.
By the way, I sure love your ID!! That is why I am a rejoicing1 !!

Yeah, it's good to know relief from guilt and stress is always just a prayer away! (Philippians, chapter 4).

When you say you have the "Windows update CD" do you mean that you have the Windows upgrade CD? If this is what you mean, then do you also have the installation floppy disks (or CD) for Windows 95 or some previous operating system?

Blessings,
Doc

rejoicing1 · « **Reply #10 on:** May 08, 2005, 12:22:07 PM »

Quote

Yeah, it's good to know relief from guilt and stress is always just a prayer away! (Philippians, chapter 4).

When you say you have the "Windows update CD" do you mean that you have the Windows upgrade CD? If this is what you mean, then do you also have the installation floppy disks (or CD) for Windows 95 or some previous operating system?

Blessings,
Doc

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Yes, guilt free is great!! Have to keep reminding myself of that fact.
Now on to the questions.......
We have the Upgrade, yes. Sorry for the confusion. My hubsand thinks we have a Windows 95 CD if I haven't given it a toss. He will search for it, and I will let you know.
rejoicing1

pcdoc4christ · « **Reply #11 on:** May 08, 2005, 05:02:40 PM »

Rejoicing:

Very true.

If you have the Windows 95 CD and the Windows 98 CD you will be able to install Windows 98 again. The advantage to this is a two-fold one: First, this will allow you to reformat the hard drive, which will erase the Windows XP operating system. Second, this will allow you to remove any private information (such as your credit card number) or files (such as letters you have written) to which you do not want the next owner of the computer to have access. So, let us know if you your husband finds the Windows 95 CD of floppy disks.

If he does not find it (or them), it is still possible to remove Windows XP (that is, if the setup program saved the data to uninstall the operating system). In this case, you will then have to go through the long process of removing any documents, Internet Explorer favorites, address book entries, and other files and settings to which do not want the next owner of the computer to have access.

Let us know, then Mac or Flame or i will suggest what to do next.

Blessings,
Doc

rejoicing1 · « **Reply #12 on:** May 10, 2005, 08:25:56 AM »

Quote

Rejoicing:

Very true.

If you have the Windows 95 CD and the Windows 98 CD you will be able to install Windows 98 again. The advantage to this is a two-fold one: First, this will allow you to reformat the hard drive, which will erase the Windows XP operating system. Second, this will allow you to remove any private information (such as your credit card number) or files (such as letters you have written) to which you do not want the next owner of the computer to have access. So, let us know if you your husband finds the Windows 95 CD of floppy disks.

If he does not find it (or them), it is still possible to remove Windows XP (that is, if the setup program saved the data to uninstall the operating system). In this case, you will then have to go through the long process of removing any documents, Internet Explorer favorites, address book entries, and other files and settings to which do not want the next owner of the computer to have access.

Let us know, then Mac or Flame or i will suggest what to do next.

Blessings,
Doc

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Good morning. Had to help with my sister yesterday who has cancer so have had to set my computer woes on a back burner. How would I know if Windows XP " uninstall" is on the computer. What would the file look like?
Probably another silly question.
Rejoicing1

pcdoc4christ · « **Reply #13 on:** May 10, 2005, 12:05:55 PM »

Rejoicing:

Sorry to hear about your sister; i'll pray for her.

To answer your question, the uninstall XP option is only available if you are able to get to the XP desktop. After reading your posts again, i believe i was mistaken that this option is available to you because the setup program did not complete the installation of XP.

Now, to get rid of the message to choose which operating system you want, the easiest way is to edit the boot.ini file that the Windows XP setup created. You have to be careful doing this, however, because making a mistake in the file will mean you will not be able to start Windows 98 till you correct the mistake.

There are at least two safe things you may change in the file:

A. The default operating system should be changed to Windows 98 (right now it must be set to select XP setup).

B. The amount of time for the computer to wait before selecting Windows 98 should be set to zero.

Once these changes are made and saved in the file, your computer will seem to boot to 98 as normal. Then all you may want to do is delete the files that the Windows XP setup program created (that is, if you want to create more space on the hard drive to install programs and save documents, etc.). If it were me, i'd just delete the ARC path to the setup program in the boot.ini file, but i would not suggest you do this, as making a mistake will cause problems.

Of course, if you do find the Windows 95 installation CD (or set of floppy disks) then it will be easier, as i mentioned in the above post. Let us know if you want instructions as to how to edit boot.ini.

Blessings to you and yours,
Doc

rejoicing1 · « **Reply #14 on:** May 10, 2005, 02:18:15 PM »

Quote

Rejoicing:

Of course, if you do find the Windows 95 installation CD (or set of floppy disks) then it will be easier, as i mentioned in the above post. Let us know if you want instructions as to how to edit boot.ini.

Blessings to you and yours,
Doc

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I cannot tell you how much I appreciate you taking the time to help me on this. Hubby thinks he MAY have a set of floppys and has set out once again to do a search for them. Is there any where I could purchase reasonable a new CD for Windows 98 if I cannot find my old one?

rejoicing1

rejoicing1 · « **Reply #15 on:** May 10, 2005, 05:06:26 PM »

questions , questions........
I have been thinking the easiest route for us would be to look for a new, or unregistered Windows98CD that we could go ahead and install. I have been roaming around ebay this afternoon checking out auctions of Windows98. I see lots of them, some say oem.( what's that?)
Also could we get a Windows98 second edition and install that? or would that cause problems?

pcdoc4christ · « **Reply #16 on:** May 10, 2005, 05:16:44 PM »

Quote

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I cannot tell you how much I appreciate you taking the time to help me on this. ... Is there any where I could purchase reasonable a new CD for Windows 98 if I cannot find my old one?

Thanks for saying so.

I have to say there was a time when i used to think helping others was a waste of my time. Then, someone introduced me to Christ, and now, well, He has changed me somehow. In the past i couldn't resist the urge to put myself first, now i have this irresistible desire to help others out. When i began learning about computers, the task was too overwhelming, so i promised God that if He'd help me learn i'd give away what i've learned to help others. I guess that's why i'm here.

It's all about giving to others because He gave so much for me; as my friend John put it, "This is how we know what love is: Jesus Christ laid down his life for us, and we ought to lay down our lives for [each other]." (1 John 3, verse 16).

To answer your question, a quick search of eBay.com for Windows 98 SE turned up nearly 2,000 hits!

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&rls=GGLD%2CGGLD%3A2004-51%2CGGLD%3Aen&q=%22windows+98+SE%22+site%3Aebay.com&btnG=Search

You may want to check some of these out to get an idea of what people are asking, then call a local computer repair shop to see if they have any Windows 98 Second Edition CDs available. If you decide to make a bid at eBay, make sure to go only with those sellers who have a history of being honest in the past.

Blessings,
Doc

rejoicing1 · « **Reply #17 on:** May 13, 2005, 07:11:52 AM »

Quote

Thanks for saying so.

I have to say there was a time when i used to think helping others was a waste of my time. Then, someone introduced me to Christ, and now, well, He has changed me somehow. In the past i couldn't resist the urge to put myself first, now i have this irresistible desire to help others out. When i began learning about computers, the task was too overwhelming, so i promised God that if He'd help me learn i'd give away what i've learned to help others. I guess that's why i'm here.

It's all about giving to others because He gave so much for me; as my friend John put it, "This is how we know what love is: Jesus Christ laid down his life for us, and we ought to lay down our lives for [each other]." (1 John 3, verse 16).

To answer your question, a quick search of eBay.com for Windows 98 SE turned up nearly 2,000 hits!

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&rls=GGLD%2CGGLD%3A2004-51%2CGGLD%3Aen&q=%22windows+98+SE%22+site%3Aebay.com&btnG=Search

You may want to check some of these out to get an idea of what people are asking, then call a local computer repair shop to see if they have any Windows 98 Second Edition CDs available. If you decide to make a bid at eBay, make sure to go only with those sellers who have a history of being honest in the past.

Blessings,
Doc

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Thank you. Have had to shelve the computer for a few days and just getting back to this forum. You said it so well.! Jesus gives us the desire to help others and reach out. Blessing comes in giving out of ourselves.

On to the computer now, you are saying then that Windows SE would be ok? I think what we will do then is to purchase a Windows 98 SE and go in and wipe off what is there.......(we are playing around with 2 old computers).......and then try the fresh install with a purchased Windows off of ebay.I will do what you said though first, and call a local computer repair. I also will only buy from a reputable seller. I hear that many try and sell imposters and illegals.
If you happen on to ebay and see one that looks good and REASONABLE , give me a heads up!!! Thank you , and have a GREAT DAY.

rejoicing1 · « **Reply #18 on:** May 13, 2005, 09:31:32 AM »

Opinion please on this CD?
Thanks

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41884&item=7155550752&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

pcdoc4christ · « **Reply #19 on:** May 13, 2005, 12:22:33 PM »

Rejoicing:

I like the fact that the seller has a 100% satisfaction rating from eBay users. I don't like the fact that the seller makes excuses about not checking every item sold. Does this mean he will sell you a scratched CD that you cannot use? I also would recommend Windows 98 Second Edition (not the original version of Windows 98). You may pay a little more for it, but it will be worth the cost.

Another place to check would be Amazon.com:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/browse/-/229658/104-9695529-0731913

I'd consider the full version over the upgrade (unless you are sure you have all the Windows 95 floppy disks and that none of them are damaged).

Blessings to you!
Doc

PS. How is your sister doing?

rejoicing1 · « **Reply #20 on:** May 13, 2005, 04:04:24 PM »

I will check Amazon. We ended up not finding the floppys, so we will have to purchase the full version. We will go for Windows98 SE.

My sister is still very much in pain and going through the post surgery blues that come with cancer.
Her hope is in the Lord, however. Thanks for asking.

pcdoc4christ · « **Reply #21 on:** May 13, 2005, 04:37:10 PM »

That is a good place for her trust to be.

"For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separtate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord." (Romans, chapter 8, verses 38-39)

God bless you, your sister, et al.

cassia Patricio · « **Reply #22 on:** May 13, 2005, 05:33:16 PM »

I would like to know how to post a message in the internet. I actully want to post about 500 copies of this massage that I have in my text file documents.

Fed · « **Reply #23 on:** May 13, 2005, 05:41:56 PM »

cassia Patricio, you need to start a new topic for this & I suggest you explain a little more of what you are trying to do.

pcdoc4christ · « **Reply #24 on:** May 14, 2005, 06:37:00 PM »

<--- Agrees with FED

pcdoc4christ · « **Reply #25 on:** May 15, 2005, 06:46:08 PM »

<---- is wondering how the rejoicing one is doing

rejoicing1 · « **Reply #26 on:** May 15, 2005, 07:26:13 PM »

Quote

<---- is wondering how the rejoicing one is doing

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
PCdoc,
Sister is doing much better today. Took her dinner after church and her color looks better and swelling is going down in her legs.( caused by her heart condition!)

Haven't pursued the computer repairs this weekend, but we are going to call tomorrow to a computer repair and ask how much they charge for a new Windows98CD .You can expect MANY QUESTIONS when we get that CD!!!!*g*

rejoicing1 · « **Reply #27 on:** May 16, 2005, 11:15:43 AM »

Quote

cassia Patricio, you need to start a new topic for this & I suggest you explain a little more of what you are trying to do.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Good morning cassia. How do I do this.......just start a brand new thread? I am new to this forum.

pcdoc4christ · « **Reply #28 on:** May 16, 2005, 12:05:11 PM »

Rejoicing One:

No rush on the computer; your family comes first! Thanks for the update on your sister. I'll keep her in my prayers.

God bless,
Doc

Fed · « **Reply #29 on:** May 16, 2005, 02:57:15 PM »

Rejoicing1, if you read back you will see the poster
(cassia Patricio) asked a question completely out of context, this is called hijacking a thread.
I only advised them to start their own thread so that better results are achieved for all.

rejoicing1 · « **Reply #30 on:** May 17, 2005, 12:16:59 PM »

Quote

Rejoicing1, if you read back you will see the poster
(cassia Patricio) asked a question completely out of context, this is called hijacking a thread.
I only advised them to start their own thread so that better results are achieved for all.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Thanks Fed. Everlearning one here!!!!LOLOL!!!
Hard for me to keep up on forums but they sure are neat!!!
I did put a bid on a Sealed New Windows98SE CD........we will see if I get it now.

pcdoc4christ · « **Reply #31 on:** May 21, 2005, 10:28:45 AM »

<--- wonders how it's going for Rejoicing

rejoicing1 · « **Reply #32 on:** May 29, 2005, 07:39:57 PM »

Quote

<--- wonders how it's going for Rejoicing

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Well here I am, the long lost rejoicing1 !!! I finally bought a Windows98 CD. YEAH!!!!!! sealed and new. It isn't the Second Edition, but hubby said we have the upgrade and can use that once we install 98. He is gone to Oregon for a funeral of a friend and as soon as he comes back we will be bombarding this forum for HELP!!.......Computer play will be shelved until next week. Hope you are all fine. Sister on the improve each day. Thanks for your prayers.
rejoicing1

Raptor · « **Reply #33 on:** May 30, 2005, 09:07:40 AM »

Second hand Windows 98 CD's are sold at very low prices.

merlin_2 · « **Reply #34 on:** May 30, 2005, 09:08:23 AM »

i bet its no sound..and display graphics settings>>you will be asked if you wish to make a startup disk..take the option>

rejoicing1 · « **Reply #35 on:** May 30, 2005, 10:21:41 AM »

Quote

Second hand Windows 98 CD's are sold at very low prices.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Well I actually paid $36. for it on Ebay.......are you going to pop my balloon and tell me it wasn't a good buy? Wahhhhhhhhh......here is the link. I guess I will have to upgrade after I install it? I do have the Windows 98 upgrade.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7158023722&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1

pcdoc4christ · « **Reply #36 on:** May 31, 2005, 08:05:31 PM »

Rejoicing One:

Good to hear from you! $36.00 for a never used Windows 98 is a steal in my book.

Glad to hear your sister is doing a little better. I'll keep asking God to get her through whatever comes her way. She is blessed to have a sister who cares for her as you do.

If you think of it, pray for my wife. She has been freakin' out since we got the bad news that my employer is eliminating my job (and those of 100 others in my job classification). I'm hopeful i'll be able to start a career in information technology (i.e. working with computers and computer networks).

May God bless your socks off!
Doc

rejoicing1 · « **Reply #37 on:** June 01, 2005, 09:21:58 AM »

Quote

Rejoicing One:

Good to hear from you! $36.00 for a never used Windows 98 is a steal in my book.

Glad to hear your sister is doing a little better. I'll keep asking God to get her through whatever comes her way. She is blessed to have a sister who cares for her as you do.

If you think of it, pray for my wife. She has been freakin' out since we got the bad news that my employer is eliminating my job (and those of 100 others in my job classification). I'm hopeful i'll be able to start a career in information technology (i.e. working with computers and computer networks).

May God bless your socks off!
Doc

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I sure will be praying that the right job will come along.........and it WILL.God never allows a door to be closed without opening another.....
He has promised to supply ALL, yes, ALL our needs!!!

I am hoping that the CD will work just fine.........time will tell!!

JohnK · « **Reply #38 on:** June 02, 2005, 08:43:38 AM »

It's a good thing that you have the Windows 98 SE upgrade CD. You are lucky that you don't have to keep using the first edition. That's what I'm using, and it sucks! Of course, it's still better than Windows 95...

rejoicing1 · « **Reply #39 on:** June 11, 2005, 11:13:12 AM »

Quote

It's a good thing that you have the Windows 98 SE upgrade CD. You are lucky that you don't have to keep using the first edition. That's what I'm using, and it sucks! Of course, it's still better than Windows 95...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Good morning all. I am ready now to try and play around with my old computer. I bought a fdisk to reformat and the 98 windows operating system. Here is what I am getting when I put in the Fdisk........I get passed the part where it says I want to use the " Large Disk support"...........and to " Create Primary DOS partition".................it then says, " Create Primary DOS partition"................Current Fixed Disk Drive......................Part:C:1, Status: A, Type: Pri DOS, mbytes:9782,Syst: FAT32, Use:100%........and then it says " Primary Partition already exists....................now what?

? This may not make sense to anyone.....but going to chance sending it on......I guess what I am saying is apparently I need to format this computer before I install the Windows98 CD.............right?
Confused this morning but wanting to learn.........

rejoicing1 · « **Reply #40 on:** June 11, 2005, 11:14:19 AM »

Quote

Rejoicing One:

Good to hear from you! $36.00 for a never used Windows 98 is a steal in my book.

Glad to hear your sister is doing a little better. I'll keep asking God to get her through whatever comes her way. She is blessed to have a sister who cares for her as you do.

If you think of it, pray for my wife. She has been freakin' out since we got the bad news that my employer is eliminating my job (and those of 100 others in my job classification). I'm hopeful i'll be able to start a career in information technology (i.e. working with computers and computer networks).

May God bless your socks off!
Doc

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
PAGING " PCDocforChrist".............PAGING PCDOC.........

rejoicing1 · « **Reply #41 on:** June 11, 2005, 01:12:25 PM »

Quote

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
PAGING " PCDocforChrist".............PAGING PCDOC.........

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I DID IT, I DID IT , I DID IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I reformatted, and installed the Windows98!!!!!!!!!! I am so proud of myself right now!!!!!!!!!!!!Watch out computer world. HERE I COME!!!!

pcdoc4christ · « **Reply #42 on:** June 18, 2005, 08:27:41 AM »

Rejoicing One:

Sorry i didn't respond; i've been preoccupied with my job search. Funny how a semi-crisis will change one's own perspective.

Glad to hear you figured it out!

Still praying for you and your sister.

God bless,
Doc

rejoicing1 · « **Reply #43 on:** June 19, 2005, 07:24:14 PM »

Quote

Rejoicing One:

Sorry i didn't respond; i've been preoccupied with my job search. Funny how a semi-crisis will change one's own perspective.

Glad to hear you figured it out!

Still praying for you and your sister.

God bless,
Doc

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Thankyou for your prayers. I often think of you and your family also.
Did you find a job? Glad our MASTER TECH knows all about every detail of our lives.
rejoicing1

blue_caddy · « **Reply #44 on:** June 19, 2005, 07:59:14 PM »

glad to here you got it running wasnt hard lol anyways take care blue

Computer Hope Forum

News:

Author Topic: A Computer dummy needs helps (Read 13323 times)

rejoicing1

pcdoc4christ

rejoicing1

Flame

Mac

rejoicing1

Mac

rejoicing1

pcdoc4christ

pcdoc4christ

rejoicing1

pcdoc4christ

rejoicing1

pcdoc4christ

rejoicing1

rejoicing1

pcdoc4christ

rejoicing1

rejoicing1

pcdoc4christ

rejoicing1

pcdoc4christ

cassia Patricio

Fed

pcdoc4christ

pcdoc4christ

rejoicing1

rejoicing1

pcdoc4christ

Fed

rejoicing1

pcdoc4christ

rejoicing1

Raptor

merlin_2

rejoicing1

pcdoc4christ

rejoicing1

JohnK

rejoicing1

rejoicing1

rejoicing1

pcdoc4christ

rejoicing1

blue_caddy