Author Topic: Windows 7 reveals XP mode AKA the IT guy’s wet dream (Read 11928 times)

Broni · « **on:** April 27, 2009, 03:58:23 PM »

http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/04/25/windows-7-reveals-xp-mode-aka-the-it-guys-wet-dream/

So there’s going to be an XP mode in Windows 7. What does that mean? For users of Windows 7 Professional, Enterprise, and Ultimate - sorry, lower-end users! - you will get a full copy of Windows XP that will run under a virtual processor. However, instead of creating a new desktop environment, the XP mode will bring the application up as a window inside Windows 7. This means you can run applications like IE 6 “natively” without booting a virtual machine.

The virtual machine will also offer a desktop interface but applications you install under XP will show up in the Windows 7 start menu, an interesting move. The XP app will, in short, appear as a Windows 7 app with a bit more loading.

Why is this happening? Mostly because Vista has long been seen as a plaything and not a serious option for IT departments. By adding an XP mode the final argument - “It’s not XP!” - against Windows 7 is dead. I’ve played with Wn7 and am looking forward to it and, as a former IT guy, I can state unequivocally that this is a big deal.

Griff · « **Reply #1 on:** April 27, 2009, 04:00:24 PM »

So, correct me if I'm wrong, but basically this is like Unity mode in VMWare, built right into the OS? COOL!!!

iamtonsoffun247 · « **Reply #2 on:** April 28, 2009, 09:51:10 PM »

Is this available on the beta yet?

Geek-9pm · « **Reply #3 on:** April 28, 2009, 10:33:09 PM »

~~Bloni,~~ Broni,
Will the CH admin start up a new board called
"Windows XP Forever"
or something like that?

patio · « **Reply #4 on:** April 29, 2009, 06:57:02 AM »

Quote from: iamtonsoffun247 on April 28, 2009, 09:51:10 PM

Is this available on the beta yet?

No.

Computer Hope Admin · « **Reply #5 on:** May 01, 2009, 07:47:09 PM »

Hehe Windows XP forever.

Great feature though and I hope something that remains in the final release and not just something for Beta.

Broni · « **Reply #6 on:** May 01, 2009, 07:50:47 PM »

So far, it's available in Win 7 RC, but as an extra 456MB .msi download.

Computer Hope Admin · « **Reply #7 on:** May 01, 2009, 09:20:48 PM »

Quote from: Broni on May 01, 2009, 07:50:47 PM

So far, it's available in Win 7 RC, but as an extra 456MB .msi download.

So it's likely that will not be part of the actually Windows 7 package but some type of add-on that can be installed.

x2543 · « **Reply #8 on:** May 01, 2009, 09:33:40 PM »

well windows 7 isn't going to have a lot of the standard apps included. Microsoft I think is going to take away the movie maker, the windows media player and make it a downloadable app so you can have it installed if you want it. I'm assuming Microsoft wants to not be held accountable for any more antitrust problems like EU posted on it in the past.

but at least you can get best of both worlds, windows xp and windows 7.

Broni · « **Reply #9 on:** May 01, 2009, 09:45:54 PM »

Quote

So it's likely that will not be part of the actually Windows 7 package but some type of add-on that can be installed.

I have no idea what the final outcome will be.

Computer Hope Admin · « **Reply #10 on:** May 01, 2009, 11:27:19 PM »

Quote from: Broni on May 01, 2009, 09:45:54 PM

I have no idea what the final outcome will be.

Ohh common Mr. Cleo, make a prediction.

Broni · « **Reply #11 on:** May 01, 2009, 11:29:59 PM »

With Micro$oft, even my super crystal ball doesn't help

Computer Hope Admin · « **Reply #12 on:** May 01, 2009, 11:33:28 PM »

Quote from: Broni on May 01, 2009, 11:29:59 PM

With Micro$oft, even my super crystal ball doesn't help

Heh sooo true.

patio · « **Reply #13 on:** May 02, 2009, 06:17:21 AM »

Quote from: Computer Hope Admin on May 01, 2009, 11:27:19 PM

Ohh common Mr. Cleo, make a prediction.

October 23 of this year....

http://www.techspot.com/news/34520-windows-7-to-launch-on-october-23-according-to-acer.html

patio · « **Reply #14 on:** May 02, 2009, 06:18:13 AM »

Quote from: Broni on May 01, 2009, 07:50:47 PM

So far, it's available in Win 7 RC, but as an extra 456MB .msi download.

Actually 2 DLoads...one is the VPC client and the other XP.

TorrentIt · « **Reply #15 on:** May 02, 2009, 11:23:23 AM »

Quote from: Broni on April 27, 2009, 03:58:23 PM

http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/04/25/windows-7-reveals-xp-mode-aka-the-it-guys-wet-dream/

So there’s going to be an XP mode in Windows 7. What does that mean? For users of Windows 7 Professional, Enterprise, and Ultimate - sorry, lower-end users! - you will get a full copy of Windows XP that will run under a virtual processor. However, instead of creating a new desktop environment, the XP mode will bring the application up as a window inside Windows 7. This means you can run applications like IE 6 “natively” without booting a virtual machine.

The virtual machine will also offer a desktop interface but applications you install under XP will show up in the Windows 7 start menu, an interesting move. The XP app will, in short, appear as a Windows 7 app with a bit more loading.

Why is this happening? Mostly because Vista has long been seen as a plaything and not a serious option for IT departments. By adding an XP mode the final argument - “It’s not XP!” - against Windows 7 is dead. I’ve played with Wn7 and am looking forward to it and, as a former IT guy, I can state unequivocally that this is a big deal.

Wow,
Thats Amazing,
I Mean Awsome,
I Love That Look Of IT Almost Looks Like a Mac CPU,
Anyways I Got Vista,
i Guess its for WINDOWS XP Though,
So No Can Get,

<Removed>

TorrentIt©

evilfantasy · « **Reply #16 on:** May 02, 2009, 11:53:14 AM »

@ TorrentIt

Stop posting that crap. We do not support warez here period!

patio · « **Reply #17 on:** May 09, 2009, 07:25:14 AM »

Bad News

For those that are looking forward to having this feature it seems not all CPU's will support it...

Here we go again...

Broni · « **Reply #18 on:** May 09, 2009, 10:06:09 AM »

You can't make it to work either, if you install Windows 7 on virtual partition, like I did. At least, this is the case of VMWare. It doesn't support overlaying virtuality.

patio · « **Reply #19 on:** May 09, 2009, 10:26:09 AM »

Their VM won't work on their VM....

Only the Mothership can come up with stuff this good...

Broni · « **Reply #20 on:** May 09, 2009, 10:39:16 AM »

Just to be fair, I'm talking abour VMWare Workstation, not M$ VirtualPC. I tried that once, but I didn't like it. Not all features were working properly.

lectrocrew · « **Reply #21 on:** May 15, 2009, 12:17:07 PM »

Quote from: patio on May 09, 2009, 07:25:14 AM

Bad News

For those that are looking forward to having this feature it seems not all CPU's will support it...

Here we go again...

Well that just pisses me off. I installed a Core2 Quad 8200 in this PC I just built. I'm running Win 7 RC X32 on my Pentium 4 machine and really like it. I was planning to replace the Vista X64 I'm running now on my Q8200 machine when W7 X64 retail comes out. I have a HP 648C printer that's old (2000) but prints beautiful documents and photo's. Vista X32 nor X64 drivers are not available for it AFAIK, so it won't run on this Q8200 machine. It runs fine on the P4, Win7 machine. I was planning to run it on this machine in XP mode but if XP mode won't run with my Q8200 I'll be SOL.

EDIT= re-worded for clarification

x2543 · « **Reply #22 on:** May 15, 2009, 01:31:08 PM »

you have to have hardware virtualization support. Else, you can't use win XP. Most programs and apps are already compatible with win 7 because win 7's code is built off of win vista's.

lectrocrew · « **Reply #23 on:** May 15, 2009, 02:10:15 PM »

Exactly. 2nd page of Patio's link
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=946&page=2

Quote

Find your CPU model under its family, and then look in the column to the right. YES means the CPU models in that row all support Intel VT; NO means VT is not supported.

Quote

Core 2 Quad
Q6600/6700    YES
Q8200/8200S/8300/8400/8400S    NO
Q9300/9400/9400S    YES
Q9450/9550/9550S/9650    YES

That leaves me without hardware virtualization support.

Ironman · « **Reply #24 on:** May 15, 2009, 04:53:45 PM »

*censored* Intel....still prefer it over AMD....

x2543 · « **Reply #25 on:** May 15, 2009, 05:04:12 PM »

Quote from: Ironman on May 15, 2009, 04:53:45 PM

<censored> Intel....still prefer it over AMD....

Well, for me, Intel, AMD, ATI or Nvidia, I got no preference, just it's the cost for performance and feature and what it allows me to do that's most important. They all got decent products out there.

squall_01 · « **Reply #26 on:** May 18, 2009, 04:05:57 AM »

It dont seem all that great know, I thought at first when I read this that it would be more like xp there. In sense that it would be able to run older app's in win 7 not give you two os. Course I suppose thats all ways been true there.

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