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elicash

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    computer freezes at start up - won't load windows
    « on: April 27, 2009, 06:34:59 PM »
    Hey guys been reading the site for a day trying to find a fix for my problem but I haven’t had any luck so I figured I’d start a thread. Sorry if this question is repetitive. I really appreciate the good info I have found - I read often.

    Essentially my computer freezes at start up and won’t even get into windows. It is a gateway desktop from about 3 or 4 years ago (I know that’s overly vague) and is running windows XP.

    I recently installed SuperAntiSpyware, Malwarebytes, adaware, firefox, and thunderbird … all seemed to be running ok until firefox and thunderbird started freezing. I also recently noticed that Norton 360 wasn’t loading - in fact when I looked for it I couln’t find it on the pc. (this is all right be for it crashed)

    Now when I say freezes at startup I mean it’ll get me to the “gateway” screen with the f2 and f10 options and then after that it freezes on a black screen. Otherwise it looks like it starts the initial processes and gives the f11 prompt then freezes on a completely black screen. I have tried to boot into safe mode after tapping the f8 key and it just starts listing about a page of lines like the following and does nothing just sits there with stuff like this on it:

    multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS\System32\Drivers\fltmgr.sys
    multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS\System32\Drivers\disk.sys
    multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS\System32\Drivers\sr.sys
    multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS\System32\Drivers\mup.sys

    (these are not the actual ones lines just a very similar ones to give an idea of the kind of lines its showing)

    I tried to reset the CMOS (or BIOS?) to factory setting per another fix option I found elsewhere but it didn’t seem to affect anything … may not have done it right though

    The kicker to all this is I bought the floor model of the PC that didn’t come with discs so I have no XP discs.

    Anyway I am hoping someone may have encountered this before. I do a fair amount of home recording so I am not only concerned about loosing years of recordings but also a variety of recording software that I have surely lost all the codes and discs for (I lost a lot of personal items last year in a move) … Most of my files are saved on an external hard drive so I hope these would these be safe even if the main CPU is toast?

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    Re: computer freezes at start up - won't load windows
    « Reply #1 on: April 27, 2009, 06:46:28 PM »
    Recovery Console.iso

    Click the link above to DLoad The XP Recovery Console...
    Use your burning app to make a bootable CD with it.
    Put it in the problem machine and power up.
    At the Command Prompt type in fixboot and hit Enter...
    Remove the CD and re-boot.
    If this does not work repeat the steps above but this time type in fixmbr and hit Enter...
    Again remove the CD and re-boot.
    Let us know...
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      Re: computer freezes at start up - won't load windows
      « Reply #2 on: April 27, 2009, 08:08:44 PM »
      thanks for the help ... I  burned a cd with the rc.iso file on it but it didn't have an effect when i started the computer with it in. I may have created the cd wrong - is there a specific way to make a bootable disc. I just put the cd-r in and selected "open writable cd folder" and then dropped the file into the window and selected "write these files to cd" from the file menu.

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      Re: computer freezes at start up - won't load windows
      « Reply #3 on: April 27, 2009, 08:20:18 PM »
      You need to use some .iso burner...

      Download, and install free Imgburn: http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=download
      Using Imgburn, burn rc.iso to a CD.

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        Re: computer freezes at start up - won't load windows
        « Reply #4 on: April 27, 2009, 09:10:46 PM »
        You need to use some .iso burner...

        Download, and install free Imgburn: http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=download
        Using Imgburn, burn rc.iso to a CD.


        Just to point out, you don't want to just burn the file to the cd, you want to mount it.

        I made that mistake my first time  :-\
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        Re: computer freezes at start up - won't load windows
        « Reply #5 on: April 27, 2009, 09:33:20 PM »
        ImgBurn will make the CD bootable. No other action is needed.

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          Re: computer freezes at start up - won't load windows
          « Reply #6 on: April 27, 2009, 09:56:47 PM »
          ok, so I burned it to the cd inserted the cd and it gave me a blue setup menu (I hope I burned it right not sure I remember selecting mounting an image - but since it brought up the setup menu I figured it did) - I selected 'r' (repair) ... and then it asks which installation I want to log onto ... I entered "1" because above that it lists 1: I:MiniNT

          I did it once and typed fixboot in the prompt and the second time I typed fixmbr

          after each start up I got the following after the pci device listing:

          verifying dmi pool data ..........
          Boot From CD :

          NTLDR is missing
          Press any key to restart

          ... when I press the key I get the following message:

          NVIDIA Boot Agent 220.0518
          Copyright (c) 2001-2005 NVIDIA Corporation
          Copyright (c) 1997-2000 Intel Corporation
          PXE-E61: Media test failure, check cable
          PXE-M0F: Exiting NVIDIA Boot Agent
          Disk Boot Failure Insert system Disk and Press Enter


          thanks everyone for the help so far ... any thoughts

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          Re: computer freezes at start up - won't load windows
          « Reply #7 on: April 27, 2009, 10:31:12 PM »
          Okay, boot to the CD again. Type in 1 again to get to your windows installation and enter your password (if you have one).

          We want to get to the root directory of your C drive here so type in: cd\ and press enter. You should now just see a standard C prompt.

          At that prompt, type in these commands. These commands assume that your CD drive's letter is E if it not substitute your drives letter.

          copy e:\i386\ntldr c:\
          copy e:\i386\ntdetect.com c:\

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            Re: computer freezes at start up - won't load windows
            « Reply #8 on: April 27, 2009, 10:42:32 PM »
            I tried copying the files but it indicates they can't be located - here is what it reads:

            I:\>cd i386

            I:\i386>copy ntldr c:
            the system cannot find the file specified

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            Re: computer freezes at start up - won't load windows
            « Reply #9 on: April 28, 2009, 06:41:15 AM »
            You may need to borrow an XP CD to complete this then if the RC doesn't do the trick...
            The version must match:  XP Pro = XP Pro or XP Home = XP Home
            The service packs installed must also match.
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              Re: computer freezes at start up - won't load windows
              « Reply #10 on: April 28, 2009, 12:19:19 PM »
              any guess on where to find one ... or how to find out what version I have (my computer didn't come with anything)?

              could I just buy an XP CD and use it?

              Since I an in the market for a new computer anyway is there a way to import all my stuff off the old one - if so will the problems come with it?

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                Re: computer freezes at start up - won't load windows
                « Reply #11 on: April 29, 2009, 12:46:14 PM »
                sorry for the bump ...

                Just wanted to see if I could I just buy an XP CD and use it? Having trouble tracking down the specific gateway version.
                 

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                Re: computer freezes at start up - won't load windows
                « Reply #12 on: April 29, 2009, 01:10:07 PM »
                No need to buy one...just boorow a Windows CD of the same version and service packs you have installed...it does not need to be a Gateway CD   Microsoft would be the best choice...
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