Author Topic: Lame help ecoding? (Read 10644 times)

nymph4 · « **on:** May 14, 2009, 05:53:56 PM »

I use Audacity as my Audio editor and I can't export my WAV traks to MP3 without the Lame Encodder.

I had to uninstall Lame because it was working goofy off aand on.

Is there onother free Encoder that I can use inplace of Lame??

Carbon Dudeoxide · « **Reply #1 on:** May 14, 2009, 06:44:53 PM »

Get Lame again.....

nymph4 · « **Reply #2 on:** May 14, 2009, 08:20:34 PM »

Can I ask why I should get Lame again it gives me a lot of problems.

Like when I install it it does not show up in the Start Programs List but it is in the Controla Pannels Ad Remove Programs List

Carbon Dudeoxide · « **Reply #3 on:** May 14, 2009, 08:38:47 PM »

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Like when I install it it does not show up in the Start Programs List but it is in the Controla Pannels Ad Remove Programs List

LOL big problem indeed. I assume you don't know how to work it.

When you install the LAME file, go to Export --> MP3 in Audacity. When you click on Export as MP3, Audacity will ask for the LAME file and a new window will pop up. All you have to do is find the LAME file installed on the computer (in Program Files) and you're all set.

nymph4 · « **Reply #4 on:** May 14, 2009, 09:10:53 PM »

This is what happens I install it and then it shows up in the Controle Pannles ad re move Programs List but Audacity can find it because if I go to the C Drive and Program Files it is not there???

Carbon Dudeoxide · « **Reply #5 on:** May 14, 2009, 09:15:32 PM »

Download the ZIP archive attached to this post and extract its contents.

Copy lame_enc.dll wherever you like and then find it with Audacity.

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Geek-9pm · « **Reply #6 on:** May 14, 2009, 09:23:18 PM »

CO2 is telling yo to start over again.
If you don't understand, or it it still does not work, go to the site and read carefully. Follow the instructions as given.
Install only audacity. Get the LAME encoder.
Do what they tell you on the web site.
Audacity will install the encoder into itself.
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

EDIT: If you do not get it to wokr, come back here.
There are people here who are ready to help and have the right answers

nymph4 · « **Reply #7 on:** May 15, 2009, 01:52:42 PM »

OK I Downloaded lame3.98.2.zip

Now I am Running win xp pro so I just Dobble Clicked on the Folder and it opened up and all of these Files are inside.

basic.html
contributors.html
examples.html
free codecs.txt
history.html
id3.html
index.html
modes.html
mode6.html
switchs.html
lame.css
lame.exe
lame_enc.dLL

Now they say to copy the Lame_enc.DLL File to my Desktop for Audacity to find it I get this. But what is the Lame.exe for I thought this is what I use to install it?

And what are all the other Files for and can I Delette them after I copy the Lame_enc.DLL Fill onto my Desktop???

BC_Programmer · « **Reply #8 on:** May 15, 2009, 01:54:29 PM »

For god's sake... you don't INSTALL it, you copy the contents. Audacity and other programs that want to export to Mp3 will use the Lame_enc.dll file. THERE IS NO EXECUTABLE.

Carbon Dudeoxide · « **Reply #9 on:** May 15, 2009, 07:43:34 PM »

http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php/topic,83495.msg554036.html#msg554036

2x3i5x · « **Reply #10 on:** May 15, 2009, 11:02:21 PM »

maybe you gotta do a regsvr32.exe lame.dll registration so that your computer understands that lame is on your pc. I don't know if it's necessary but I did that.....

Just open up command prompt (AKA CMD on windows vista or windows 7), and just type regsver32.exe lame.dll when you have opened up the directory where lame.dll exists in CMD.

Carbon Dudeoxide · « **Reply #11 on:** May 15, 2009, 11:04:11 PM »

Nope. Not necessary at all. Just show Audacity the gold and it will work for you.

nymph4 · « **Reply #12 on:** May 16, 2009, 11:12:04 AM »

OK I get that I just copy lame_enc.dLL
any place and let Audacity find it.

What I ment to ask and I did it in the incorect way is this.

There is a File called Lame.exe and a whole list of other Files and they are all in the Zip Folder.

Now after I copy the Lame_enc.DLL File out of the zip Folder and put it on my Desktop can I Delette the zip Folder it was in or does it need the Files that came with it in the zip Folder??

2x3i5x · « **Reply #13 on:** May 16, 2009, 11:15:22 AM »

Quote from: nymph4 on May 16, 2009, 11:12:04 AM

OK I get that I just copy lame_enc.dLL
any place and let Audacity find it.

What I ment to ask and I did it in the incorect way is this.

There is a File called Lame.exe and a whole list of other Files and they are all in the Zip Folder.

Now after I copy the Lame_enc.DLL File out of the zip Folder and put it on my Desktop can I Delette the zip Folder it was in or does it need the Files that came with it in the zip Folder??

Did you get the lame dll to work with audacity? Can you now export your work into mp3 files? If that is all working, you can delete everything but the lame dll. which should be left in the folder you have extracted it to.

Carbon Dudeoxide · « **Reply #14 on:** May 16, 2009, 11:19:08 AM »

If you want to continue exporting MP3 files, you will have to keep the .dll file.

All the other files can be deleted.

nymph4 · « **Reply #15 on:** May 16, 2009, 11:25:21 AM »

I am useing Audacity and I just need some help with the imput level.

I see whenever I import say an MP3 Music File in Audacity it will show you a graph of the Audio File.

And the graph is flat and does not move I like this it just show the Flat graph spreadout across the screen.

And the graph seems to always be displayed as very high what I meen is the graph will always be spreadout to the very top and ver bottum of the Tracks.
And it plays ok and sound good so I wanted to know when I do a recording to get the best sound sould I have the imput level in Audacity set all the way to the Lright I think that is to 100%

Carbon Dudeoxide · « **Reply #16 on:** May 16, 2009, 11:50:10 AM »

I assume you got Exporting MP3 files working?

I am barely able to understand what you are asking, but I think I get it.
You're asking if the Input Level determines the quality of the sound when you are recording from a microphone.

The Input Level is simply the 'loudness' you want to record at. If you set it to 100%, the microphone will be at its maximum sensitivity, which does not necessarily mean best quality.

2x3i5x · « **Reply #17 on:** May 16, 2009, 11:59:40 AM »

Quote from: Carbon Dudeoxide on May 16, 2009, 11:50:10 AM

You're asking if the Input Level determines the quality of the sound when you are recording from a microphone.

The Input Level is simply the 'loudness' you want to record at. If you set it to 100%, the microphone will be at its maximum sensitivity, which does not necessarily mean best quality.

... especially when you are either picking up background noise or you are too close to the mic making your boice sound like a trumpet.

Geek-9pm · « **Reply #18 on:** May 16, 2009, 12:37:01 PM »

The dynamic range of Digital Recording is some much wider that Analog. There is little point in recording at a very high level. High level recoding causes distortions and/or reduces dynamic range.

The point is, do NOT record at high levels. After you record you can add effects, mix tracks and a lot of other neat things. After you are sure you will do not more changes to the audio, you ask Audacity to 'normalize' the audio. It will do its best to raise the level to just under the clip level. Save a bask cup copy in a high quality format without clipping .Then save another copy in the MP3 format with over driven level high distortion, if that is want you like.

This is off topic. Your original question was about the LAME encoder. Did you get that working right? The encoder does not set levels nor does it improve audio that was bad from the start.

nymph4 · « **Reply #19 on:** May 16, 2009, 01:27:43 PM »

Soory what I ment was.

Whenever I Import an MP3 or any Music File the graph in Audacity looks like the sound was recorded very High.
Because the graph that shows the sound file very High.

So I wanted to know if I record say a sound from my computer or Mic or anything sould I have the imput level set to the max??

Geek-9pm · « **Reply #20 on:** May 16, 2009, 01:55:24 PM »

Simple answer is that you record at a levelalways below the clip level.
You will need to experiment. I often record at levels about -12db relative to the max. Then I ask the sound editor, audacity,m to 'normalize the sound later. Before I put Audio up for other to hear, I would use some process to hold the level steady.People do not like it when the level keeps going up and down. (Unless that is part of the effect you want.)
Some audio systems have automatic level control. Which I find to be an annoyance, so I turn it off. Unless I am feeling lazy Editors like Audacity have better volume compressors that you can adjust for best results.

Again, do not record at high level for a live recording. Use the 'normalize' tool before you save the mix.

nymph4 · « **Reply #21 on:** May 16, 2009, 02:06:50 PM »

Thanks for the help.

What sould I expanct from the 'normalize Tool will it ask me for a lot of settings or if I have say a sound that I recorded at Max Level it will just make it 'normal?

Geek-9pm · « **Reply #22 on:** May 16, 2009, 05:23:51 PM »

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What sould I expanct from the 'normalize Tool will it ask me for a lot of settings or if I have say a sound that I recorded at Max Level it will just make it 'normal?

Do not record at MAX level!

Rather the prolong this thread any more, would you please read the tutorials on Audacity. Here is a simple video to get your started.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrPGMjZORCM

nymph4 · « **Reply #23 on:** May 17, 2009, 11:45:25 AM »

Soory I got off topic from exportting to MP3 and using Lame.

I do understand when I open the Lame Zip Folder I have to copy the Lame_enc.DLL File to the Desktop and let Audacity find it I get this.

But after I do this I still have the Lame Zip Folder with all these other Files in it and one called Lame.exe can I just get rid of them or do the Lame_enc.DLL need these???

Geek-9pm · « **Reply #24 on:** May 17, 2009, 02:25:54 PM »

Only that one file is needed.
I have a directory for all my downloads and I put what I do not use in there. I don't bother cleaning it out until it gets real big, like gigabytes. Then I put them on a DVD-R and file it.

2x3i5x · « **Reply #25 on:** May 17, 2009, 02:47:05 PM »

Quote from: Geek-9pm on May 17, 2009, 02:25:54 PM

Only that one file is needed.
I have a directory for all my downloads and I put what I do not use in there. I don't bother cleaning it out until it gets real big, like gigabytes. Then I put them on a DVD-R and file it.

Yes, exactly. lame.dll is the only thing you need on your pc once you get audacity to export mp3 without issue. And like Geek said, I keep all good files I download on my computer. What if I suddenly need something and there's no internet at the time? Even if it's older version, life can still go on to whatever extent it ends at.

Carbon Dudeoxide · « **Reply #26 on:** May 17, 2009, 07:01:07 PM »

Nymph. I don't think you understand.

Copy the .dll file OUT of the zip archive and DELETE the zip archive.

2x3i5x · « **Reply #27 on:** May 17, 2009, 07:57:37 PM »

Quote from: Carbon Dudeoxide on May 17, 2009, 07:01:07 PM

Nymph. I don't think you understand.

Copy the .dll file OUT of the zip archive and DELETE the zip archive.

you have to have the lame.dll extracted on your computer in a folder of your choice outside of the zip file. Have audacity locate it and get your mp3 thing working. Then you can delete the zip file.

Geek-9pm · « **Reply #28 on:** May 17, 2009, 09:07:56 PM »

NOTE WELL:
This thread has be prolonged because of not understand the instructions.
The instructions are on the aAdacity page and on the relevant LAME page.
The two sites are independent and the instructions may not be coordinated to idiot-proof third-grade reading level.

http://lame.buanzo.com.ar/
Has a recent version of the LAME just for idiots. But it requires you to scroll down the page until your find:

Code: [Select]

 For Audacity on Windows:
 Lame_v3.98.2_for_Audacity_on_Windows.exe

In any case, it is important for anyone to pay attention to instructions, even if it is a task so simple even a ~~cave-man~~ child could do it.

2x3i5x · « **Reply #29 on:** May 17, 2009, 10:25:29 PM »

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In any case, it is important for anyone to pay attention to instructions, even if it is a task so simple even a ~~cave-man~~ child could do it.

Is Geico with you?

Geek-9pm · « **Reply #30 on:** May 17, 2009, 11:28:43 PM »

Quote from: 2x3i5x on May 17, 2009, 10:25:29 PM

Is Geico with you?

That's funny. No, they will not insure MP3.
This thread is about the annoyances of getting a suitable MP3 encoders.

The following is supplement to this thread to help explain why we still have an issue with MP3 after over ten years of widespread usage here and abroad.

People who create MP3 encoders and decoders take some risk.
The start of the story goes back a few years. Look at this :

Quote

OPINION
O'SCANNLAIN, Circuit Judge:
In this case involving the intersection of computer technology, the Internet, and music listening, we must decide whether the Rio portable music player is a digital audio recording device subject to the restrictions of the Audio Home Recording Act of 1992

http://www.virtualrecordings.com/diamond.htm

Notice that this was not in the UK or the EU. It was in California!
Look it over. They were out to get anybody that had made MP3 players!.
So, then, they would also like to discourage people using MP3 on computers, if they could! Notice who is behind this and what are the reasons they give.

Carbon Dudeoxide · « **Reply #31 on:** May 18, 2009, 01:59:21 AM »

I think Nymph is toying with us. After all, he is just a young insect:

Nymph # a larva of an insect with incomplete metamorphosis (as the dragonfly or mayfly)

2x3i5x · « **Reply #32 on:** May 18, 2009, 02:40:41 AM »

1. I thought mp3 was the best format to use, it's supported by almost all major portable music playing devices that I know of and it still got its share of issues? LOL

2.

Quote from: Carbon Dudeoxide on May 18, 2009, 01:59:21 AM

I think Nymph is toying with us. After all, he is just a young insect:

Nymph # a larva of an insect with incomplete metamorphosis (as the dragonfly or mayfly)

Why yes he undergoes paurametabulous metamorphosis ... and maybe he's drowning too, he's an aquatic nymph to say the least

3.

Quote from: Carbon Dudeoxide on May 14, 2009, 06:44:53 PM

Get Lame again.....

I thought our nymph wasn't already lame enough, he's already picked up lame and I bet he just has a lame excuse about why he's not able to get the lame.dll to work even though it's a simple thing to do....

nymph4 · « **Reply #33 on:** May 18, 2009, 08:24:32 AM »

OK I will keep Laame_enc.exe

But all the other files that ware in the Zip Folder were all HTML File Extaions.
What are they for and then there was that one file caleed just Lame.exe

Are all of these just Ads or diferant Lame Verions?

Carbon Dudeoxide · « **Reply #34 on:** May 18, 2009, 08:27:18 AM »

Most likely help files. LOL

Did you get it working?

2x3i5x · « **Reply #35 on:** May 18, 2009, 01:27:29 PM »

Quote from: Carbon Dudeoxide on May 18, 2009, 08:27:18 AM

Most likely help files. LOL

Did you get it working?

Who cares what those other files are. Just get the lame.dll and get audacity working if it already is not. Get rid of everything else if audacity is fine. That's all you need, no other questions needed LOL

nymph4 · « **Reply #36 on:** May 18, 2009, 05:43:57 PM »

Works ok I just wanted to know if I can Delette the other files.
Why should I keep a Zip Folder around even if it is full of Ods and Ends LOL
Thanks

Carbon Dudeoxide · « **Reply #37 on:** May 18, 2009, 08:40:21 PM »

I have said this a bazillion times already. YES you can delete the other files. Delete everything except the .DLL file!

2x3i5x · « **Reply #38 on:** May 18, 2009, 08:50:56 PM »

Quote from: Carbon Dudeoxide on May 18, 2009, 08:40:21 PM

I have said this a bazillion times already. YES you can delete the other files. Delete everything except the .DLL file!

I think the nymph understands. I think that this post ends here. guess you can lock the post, and if nymph still need help he can pm you or another moderator to reopen this post.

Carbon Dudeoxide · « **Reply #39 on:** May 18, 2009, 09:51:36 PM »

Other than being ridiculously annoying, Nymph hasn't broken any rules. If the topic carries on uselessly, It will be locked.

nymph4 · « **Reply #40 on:** May 19, 2009, 06:48:15 AM »

Work greate thanks.

Carbon Dudeoxide · « **Reply #41 on:** May 19, 2009, 07:01:30 AM »

http://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php/topic,83495.msg554036.html#msg554036

0 downloads? Which means you haven't tried my suggestion. No more help from me... *cough* troll *cough*

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