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« on: June 16, 2009, 03:57:29 PM »
hey all...   I'll be looking for a job as an entry level computer repair tech. and I have some questions for anyone is employed in the IT industry that knows about this stuff.

I'm not sure if I should request a certain wage or just take what they want to give me, as an entry level tech.  I understand that being entry-level, I won't be living "on top of the world" or anything like that, but I do not want to "short-change" myself either. 

I've got an AAS degree in Electronics and as you all know by now, recently A+ certified...I've also got about 6 months experience working in the IT industry, from working at my old college, under a work-study program... My duties there were not too difficult, I was basically an assistant to the network administrators on campus...I did varous stuff....a little bit of everything, but nothing too technical, as you can imagine... 

So again, the question is, should I request a certain wage (if so, what should it be-BALL PARK), or take what they want to give me? 

EDIT: now guys, don't make me bump this thread, lets have some answers!
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« Last Edit: June 19, 2009, 01:33:44 AM by blockHEAD »

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    « Reply #1 on: June 19, 2009, 03:53:25 PM »
    Well, you can look for jobs as a .....

    Service Technician
    Field PC Tecnician
    IT Technician
    IT Administrator
    ICS Specialist
    Computer Technician

    All courtesy of the A+ designation according to CompTIA. You should be able to search for your local payscales to give you an idea. Check out the major staff recruiters....Monster, workopolis, etc....and punch in your location
    I know from researching my area, A+ Techs on call are offered $30 / hour and a vehicle is required....though you'll never see that kind of money working for someone in a corporate environment.
     


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    « Reply #2 on: June 19, 2009, 03:58:48 PM »
    Being as how the economy is so "robust," you may have to take a job in a company in another position until you can move into I/T.  (Not your first choice, just a possibility.) 

    A lot depends on your geographical area, too.


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    « Reply #3 on: June 19, 2009, 04:30:00 PM »
    he** will freeze over before I'll take another position...    8)

    From everything that I've gathered the pay scale for most A+ entry level techs is between 12 and 14 dollars/hr  to start..  But there are so many sources it's so hard to tell which one is more factual and true..


    Karnac, $30 bucks and hour seems like a lot for someone just starting....You would have to know your stuff pretty good to be out servicing computers on your own...I'm not sure I'm experienced enough to be able to work without someone smarter helping me out..There's still things I don't know    ;)

    I've sort of got this vision of me working somewhere, and if I can't fix something, a smarter tech.  is there to point me in the right direction OR I simply pass the ticket to the smarter tech..

    I am in the process of building a resume on monster, however..
    « Last Edit: June 19, 2009, 04:40:06 PM by blockHEAD »

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    « Reply #4 on: June 19, 2009, 04:33:18 PM »
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    he** will freeze over before I'll take another position...   


    You may be in a large enough area to be able to say that, but it's ugly out there -- I'm tellin' ya.  I'm just saying this may be an option down the line.


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    « Reply #5 on: June 19, 2009, 11:01:54 PM »
    he** will freeze over before I'll take another position...    8)


    hahahahahahahaha!

    that's a good one.

    Look at me. I've released a bloody scripting language.

    and yet I work at a tim hortons for 11/hr. Which is actually pretty good pay for that job. Warranted, I'm the only person that can read it would seem, what with people labelling or "Chilli" and "chiken noodel" soups. Aegis would be in *censored* dealing with their bad grammar and spelling... but let's not get me started  :P

    heh, I think I scared JJ away, when he was asking me about starting programming. Pretty flattering when he thought I was a university professor, though.   ;D

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    Re: finding a job
    « Reply #6 on: June 19, 2009, 11:15:51 PM »
    monster.com
    yahoo hotjobs.yahoo.com

    two websites for the job hunter and the sites are pretty extensive too. worth a search and look  ;D

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    « Reply #7 on: June 19, 2009, 11:32:39 PM »
    well, I certainly don't intend to seek other types of employment without a fight

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    Re: finding a job
    « Reply #8 on: June 22, 2009, 04:48:46 PM »
    For a entry level position and a new person I'd guesstimate a starting wage of $15-20/hr. You could potentially get more with your qualifications, however, that's what I'd imagine would be a good asking wage.
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    « Reply #9 on: June 22, 2009, 09:25:18 PM »
    thanks Admin.


    It's getting close...In the next couple of weeks I'll be shopping  for some interview clothes  8), and putting a resume together..Oh yah, and practicing my answer to the question:  "Tell me about yourself"   ;)

    Generally I'm caught off gaurd with that, giving an answer sounding something like, "Well, uh, let's see here.....hmmmmmmmmmmmm.....I'm 33 years old, I like electronics, I like skiing  and fishing...and uhhhhhhhh...."
     :D

    you get the idea...

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    « Reply #10 on: June 22, 2009, 09:31:14 PM »
    be professional and be interested (at least in appearance if you're not sure if you are going to like the job)

    and yeah, don't get caught with the interview bug, it'll make you have the chills later in the same day....  ;D

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    « Reply #11 on: June 22, 2009, 09:49:29 PM »
    Oh yah, and practicing my answer to the question:  "Tell me about yourself"   ;)

    Generally I'm caught off gaurd with that, giving an answer sounding something like, "Well, uh, let's see here.....hmmmmmmmmmmmm.....I'm 33 years old, I like electronics, I like skiing  and fishing...and uhhhhhhhh...."
    Although that question, taken literally, seems to be asking for your life story, I believe that's usually not what the interviewer wants to hear.  They mainly want to hear you talk about your background, experience, and knowledge as it relates to the job for which you are applying. 

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    « Reply #12 on: June 22, 2009, 10:13:01 PM »
    oh yeah, another thing, ask many many good questions so that the interviewer doesn't have the chance to ask you some question that you probably might not have a good answer for. Make him know you are easy going (easy to work with that is) and are really genuinely wanting to know what's going on with the job environment you're probably going to face.

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    « Reply #13 on: June 22, 2009, 10:27:54 PM »
    Ok thanks..

    @ soybean, I pretty much figured that's the answer to that question that the interviewer is looking for.........Thanks for confirming that.....Although I haven't answered that question to well in the past....I'll be ready this time, though

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    « Reply #14 on: June 22, 2009, 11:33:34 PM »
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    oh yeah, another thing, ask many many good questions so that the interviewer doesn't have the chance to ask you some question that you probably might not have a good answer for.

    Yeah, good luck with that.     ::) ::) ::)

    Ask good questions, but don't think you're gonna "smoke" most of these people.

    General advice says, don't discuss salary on first interview, unless the interviewer specifically brings up the subject.  Even at the end, when they ask you that general, "Do you have any other questions?" you very well may, but don't go to salary.  Second and third interviews are where, generally, salary is discussed.  As far as the application, some say list your salary requirements, others say put in something like "negotiable."  Some will appreciate a dollar range, others will see you pricing yourself right out of the job.

    I've had a couple of interviewers discuss salary with me, but they brought it up, and they were very specific about it.  It was nice to hear on the first interview, but that doesn't always happen.

    With your credentials, you shouldn't have to settle for work outside your interests. 

    Interviews are not an exact science, of course.  You may take a flyer on something, and the interviewer will admire your boldness.  The next interviewer might be offended...you just never know.

    You may walk out of a great interview, and hear nothing.  You may think you tank an interview, and that's the one where you'll get your second interview.  Those are extremes, but be prepared for something like that...wondering, why haven't I heard from them.

    The really pro companies will at least send you a letter or some form of communication to let you know you didn't get the position.  That's always nice.


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    « Reply #15 on: June 22, 2009, 11:38:58 PM »
    Yeah, good luck with that.     ::) ::) ::)

    Well, that's what my dad said to me, that's his strategy and he did it at all his interviews and he's done and it's worked for him..... but I know everyone's different ....  :)
    « Last Edit: June 23, 2009, 10:45:52 AM by 2x3i5x »

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    « Reply #16 on: June 23, 2009, 06:54:48 AM »
    Personally i always took the approach that each interview was an opportunity to practice my interview skills...

    " Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist should have his head examined. "

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    « Reply #17 on: June 23, 2009, 10:09:31 AM »
    That's an excellent approach, too.

    I re-entered the workforce after many years of holding the same job, and wished I could've gotten feedback from interviewers.

    Sometimes, it just "clicks," too.  You walk in, and you have the skills and the personality -- just the person for whom they're looking.

    Oh, yeah -- don't be surprised at the tests -- English, reading, comprehension, math, psychological profile tests.
    « Last Edit: June 23, 2009, 10:46:26 AM by Aegis »


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    Re: finding a job
    « Reply #18 on: June 23, 2009, 10:41:58 AM »
    Lots of pages out there too that have a full listing of questions to help prep ya.

    http://www.jobinterviewquestions.org/questions/interview-questions.asp
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    « Reply #19 on: June 23, 2009, 04:45:19 PM »
    I always find just clearing your mind before the interview helps. Think about what your doing that night or next week just before you go in, that helps you focus when you get asked a question. Also this helps you relax your mind and answer more freely without the erm's and Ahh's but be careful the last thing you want is they ask 'Where do you see yourself in 6 months' And you answer 'Hanging out the back of the girl next door'.  :)

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    « Reply #20 on: June 23, 2009, 04:51:43 PM »
    and given, you've probably already researched up on the job you are potentially going to be doing and the company behind it, you could just be chilling there, just having fun.  ;D

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    Re: finding a job
    « Reply #21 on: June 23, 2009, 05:03:35 PM »
    Just like to add one more note to this, any frequent forum user is always welcome to add Computer Hope as a reference if they need to. :) I've actually been called and successfully helped several people get jobs who've helped Computer Hope in the past.
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    « Reply #22 on: June 23, 2009, 05:17:04 PM »
    The Better Business Bureau (www.bbb.org) gives Computer Hope a B+ rating, so that's pretty good still  ;D

    So you can say that this person (whoever it is)  has been a good contributer and has helped to enhance CH and therefore is a good candidate....  :)

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    « Reply #23 on: June 23, 2009, 07:48:55 PM »
    Just like to add one more note to this, any frequent forum user is always welcome to add Computer Hope as a reference if they need to. :) I've actually been called and successfully helped several people get jobs who've helped Computer Hope in the past.

    EL Excellente` !!!      ;D              (I made that word up)


    I appreciate that Admin.  I was actually looking for another reference because I only have one professional reference at the moment......What name and number should I give them, and occupation if asked?  You can PM me if necessary..

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    « Reply #24 on: June 23, 2009, 07:50:10 PM »
    The Better Business Bureau (www.bbb.org) gives Computer Hope a B+ rating, so that's pretty good still  ;D

    So you can say that this person (whoever it is)  has been a good contributer and has helped to enhance CH and therefore is a good candidate....  :)

    I had no idea the better business bureau keeps record of computer help forums...

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    « Reply #25 on: June 23, 2009, 07:53:48 PM »
    I had no idea the better business bureau keeps record of computer help forums...


    not the forums perse, but Computer Hope (the company behind which this forum now exists)   ;D

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    « Reply #26 on: June 23, 2009, 08:16:46 PM »
    EL Excellente` !!!      ;D              (I made that word up)

    I appreciate that Admin.  I was actually looking for another reference because I only have one professional reference at the moment......What name and number should I give them, and occupation if asked?  You can PM me if necessary..

    Sent VIA PM.
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    « Reply #27 on: June 23, 2009, 09:57:32 PM »
    Sent VIA PM.

    PM recieved   8)


    and thanks for the info. everyone

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    « Reply #28 on: June 24, 2009, 07:27:55 PM »
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    I always find just clearing your mind before the interview helps.

    i ususally just do a few shots and a Guinness beforehand....
    " Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist should have his head examined. "

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    « Reply #29 on: June 24, 2009, 07:36:32 PM »
    Another tried-and-true method!   ;D


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    « Reply #30 on: June 24, 2009, 07:50:38 PM »
    heres a position near me, that looks like it might be up my ally

    http://jobview.monster.com/getjob.aspx?JobID=81584252&brd=1&q=computer+repair&cy=us&where=Fresno%2c+CA&rad=20&rad_units=miles&qlt=1267477&qln=602276&lid=343&re=130&AVSDM=2009-06-17+17%3a52%3a00&pg=1&seq=3&fseo=1&isjs=1&re=1000

    The only thing it looks like I may lack is about 6 months experience...Since they prefer 1-2 years experience in the industry.....I've only got about 6 months  :(

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    « Reply #31 on: June 24, 2009, 07:56:44 PM »
    alley, you mean?   ally = friend

    Yes, I'm splitting hairs.  Be sure your resume is proofread.

    It looks like a fifteen month position.  you should apply.


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    « Reply #32 on: June 24, 2009, 08:06:32 PM »
    alley, you mean? 

    yah, that's what I meant........college obviously did nothing for my vocabulary ;D

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    « Reply #33 on: June 24, 2009, 08:21:43 PM »
    Collage ? ?
    " Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist should have his head examined. "

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    « Reply #34 on: June 24, 2009, 08:48:14 PM »
    here's some info. from the the hiring company's website:

    Prospective candidates must submit an official Community Action Partnership of Madera County application, along with any additional materials specified on the job announcement, by 5:00 p.m. on the final filing date given on the job announcement. Postmarks, faxes, emails, and resumes in lieu of an application are not accepted


    Does this mean I have to hand in the application personally, not by mail?

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    « Reply #35 on: June 24, 2009, 08:51:21 PM »
    That looks to be the case.  They want your application on hand, and on file.  It is frustrating to fill out information which already exists on your resume, but I'm told it's for legal reasons.


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    « Reply #36 on: June 24, 2009, 08:59:00 PM »
    I think the "postmarks" not being accepted might mean that the application has to be in their office on file by the deadline, not postmarked by the deadline....Like in filing tax returns, some people wait til the last minute to have their tax returns postmarked.....like midnight on the day before the last day..

    But I think I'll just hand it in personally, just to be on the safe side>

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    « Reply #37 on: June 24, 2009, 09:23:02 PM »
    if they have a deadline, you better just get it in at least a day before, if not any earlier.... that's what I think ... and don't mail if you can get it in personally as I have had applications that could've been on time but the post office delivered it late.  :)

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    « Reply #38 on: June 25, 2009, 02:55:24 PM »
    Tell the guy interviewing you that his position is up and ask for advice on how he would have done things differently......looking back.
    " Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist should have his head examined. "

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    « Reply #39 on: June 25, 2009, 04:07:07 PM »
    Just don't have the interviewer ask you a tough question and you just stand or sit there with no answer (and perhaps looking a bit out of tune there... that's no good).

    So by asking questions, I mean you ask about all the relevant stuff, so that the interviewer knows you're thinking and knows some things about the situation you're probably going in and all that and he probably won't get time to think of a question to ask you that's a little harder on your end and therefore you might look a bit clueless which is not good in an interview anyway.

    How's company doing, what's your biggest product you're producing and where is it being sold .... that for starters....

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    « Reply #40 on: June 26, 2009, 09:09:08 AM »
    How's company doing, what's your biggest product you're producing and where is it being sold

    If you have to ask those questions when your at the interview, you're already screwed. May as well ask, "BTW, what was your company's name again?"
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    « Reply #41 on: June 26, 2009, 09:27:59 AM »
    Yes, this is advice not given from experience.

    You'll want to try to do some homework on the company before you go; perhaps not to the level of "In 2006, your company shipped five thousand metric tons of widgets."

    You might become familiar with what they do, where they're located, and perhaps some of the history of the company.  Apply for a job at Unisys, for example, and you might throw out that Unisys was a merger of Burroughs and Sperry-Rand (I think) back in the mid-1980's.

    You may certainly ask questions about the company.  Asking questions shows interest in the company and position. 

    Try not to ask questions which reveal complete ingorance of the company, and I would say you won't usually have the chance to ask so many questions just to hide your deficiencies. 

    Some interviewers are less qualified than you, but you'll find most know the ropes, and they'll know when you're trying to "fake" them.

    Yes, it is a game, and you will learn how it's played.  (I'm not good at it.)  You will learn how to "schmooze."

    It might also very well be that your first interview will be the one which gets you hired.


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    « Reply #42 on: June 26, 2009, 09:55:34 AM »
    But always remember the saying:
    'you buy the person before you buy the product'

    He needs to like you as a person as well as what you can do for him.


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      « Reply #43 on: June 26, 2009, 10:59:51 AM »
      Remember, if your interviewer has a photo on his desk of himself holding a huge bass , relate to him, comment on the catch....something like "Hey, I like canned tuna"...........I know you, BH .......... No sense in pretending you like to fish......at least he'll think you have a sense of haha.
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      « Reply #44 on: June 26, 2009, 11:46:51 AM »
      I think we should all get together and start a new website. How's about
      'Employment Hope.com'
             Free job hunting help for everyone.   ;D

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      « Reply #45 on: June 26, 2009, 12:19:28 PM »
      sorry Mulreay, but EmploymentHope.com has already been registered. Need a new name LOL  ;D

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      « Reply #46 on: June 26, 2009, 12:52:03 PM »
      *censored*. See you snooze you lose. I like the way you checked though.  ;D

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      « Reply #47 on: June 26, 2009, 03:02:08 PM »
      I applied for that Help Desk Position today.........got dressed up, walked in and handed them the app..

      I'm not stopping here though.........I'm going to look around my area, more.

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      Re: finding a job
      « Reply #48 on: June 26, 2009, 04:43:46 PM »
      Based solely on the advice given i'd suggest going in to business yourself...

      May be a better alternative.
      " Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist should have his head examined. "

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      « Reply #49 on: June 26, 2009, 05:05:16 PM »
      .........got dressed up, walked in and handed them the app..



      that's what I did, sir   8) 

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      Re: finding a job
      « Reply #50 on: June 26, 2009, 06:28:08 PM »
      I think we should all get together and start a new website. How's about
      'Employment Hope.com'
             Free job hunting help for everyone.   ;D

      I'd be all for supporting it. :) But personally don't have the time to maintain another site, not even close to having enough time for Computer Hope. :)

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      Re: finding a job
      « Reply #51 on: June 26, 2009, 09:24:01 PM »

      that's what I did, sir   8) 


      Step 1: re-read Patio's post.
      step 2: face-palm.
      I was trying to dereference Null Pointers before it was cool.

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      « Reply #52 on: June 26, 2009, 09:40:29 PM »

      Step 1: re-read Patio's post.
      step 2: face-palm.

      Doh!

      I misread the post didn't I

      I wouldn't feel comfortable being out on my own, just quite yet.  What if there's a problem I can't fix?

      Plus, I'd like to be more confident in my networking skills, before I do anything on my own....I haven't delved into networking enough..

       






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      Re: finding a job
      « Reply #53 on: June 26, 2009, 09:48:54 PM »
      If you have to ask those questions when your at the interview, you're already screwed. May as well ask, "BTW, what was your company's name again?"

      You tell that to my dad. That's what he told me, and he's been through interviews and has never failed to get the job after he'd been invited over for an interview. ... You start out in that position. But I never said make yourself look stupid. You have to have already done your homework or else you wouldn't just go blindly applying for any open job without knowing what you're potentially getting into  :P
      « Last Edit: June 26, 2009, 11:47:29 PM by 2x3i5x »

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      « Reply #54 on: June 26, 2009, 10:37:04 PM »
      I'm doing my homework......I'm reading about the company and going over as much basic networking stuff as possible....downloaded the CompTIA Network+ objectives so I have an idea what what's involved in a common networking environment...I may not be experienced in Novel or other protocol, but I've got a network at home where I can practice common implementations.........besides, I'm not totally oblivious to networking and it's an entry level, supervised position, anyway.  They can't expect your knowledge to be extensive, in networking. ;)

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        Re: finding a job
        « Reply #55 on: June 26, 2009, 10:43:54 PM »


        Never argue with a stupid person, they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

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        « Reply #56 on: June 26, 2009, 10:48:58 PM »
        lol      as a matter of fact Karnac, I've got the Internet shortcut for his Network + videos on my desktop.. 8)  all ready to go....I haven't started watching yet.   Although the full Network + course isn't available yet, I'll definitely watch them..

        Googling the various CompTIA Network + objectives will help too...  I was planning on buying "Upgrading and Repairing Microsoft Windows" by Scott Mueller at the beginning of the month, but maybe I should get a good Network + study book instead.......limited budget  ;D

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        « Reply #57 on: August 21, 2009, 12:10:01 AM »
        I'm resurrecting this thread to tell you all how the story ended, with respect to the job I applied for with the Madera County Office in California..as an IT Help Desk Assistant

        I put in my application around June 25th....the deadline was July 2nd...

        Didn't hear a peep out of the company until about a month later....The thing is, I had left town for about a week approximately 1 month after applying for the job (I gave up on them after 3 weeks or so)...On the day I got back into town there was letter in my mailbox for an invitation to an interview with the company for that very same day..  Unfortunately, I arrived back in town around 6 pm and the interview was for 1:30 pm  :(               I called them back to see if I could reschedule and it was impossible to reschedule.  There is a group of officials that met up on that day at the location of the interview to interview all the candidates, and that was the only day they planned on being there...  It was a 13-16 dollar/hr job... :'(        an interview doesn't mean I was in for sure, but naturally I was kind of upset..
        Maybe next time, I won't give up on employers so soon...

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        « Reply #58 on: August 21, 2009, 01:11:49 AM »
        Unlucky... *censored*  :(

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        « Reply #59 on: August 21, 2009, 01:25:45 AM »
        heh, indeed  :P

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        Re: finding a job
        « Reply #60 on: August 21, 2009, 03:32:10 AM »
        Unfortunately, they call the shots.

        Thanks for updating this.  I'm sorry it didn't work out.

        I'm certainly not going to say that you should've known not to go out of town a month after you applied.  You can't put things on hold forever.


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        « Reply #61 on: August 21, 2009, 04:30:10 AM »
        My father worked for the US government most of his life and is generally familiar with how the system works... He tells me that with government jobs, they take there time and when they finally want you, they want you immediately...

        Next time I go for a County/government job, I'll be sure check my messages all the time... ;)

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          « Reply #62 on: August 21, 2009, 05:33:35 AM »
          Everything happens for a reason...call it fate or karma.....the job wasn't for you,  BH......


          Never argue with a stupid person, they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

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          « Reply #63 on: August 21, 2009, 07:26:01 AM »
          i agree..............but honestly, I'm kinda having fun hiding in my hobbit hole, right now... ;)  I may be certified but I'm not content with what I know about computers... I think in another six months or so I'll feel better because there's a lot of reviewing and revising I'm doing...

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            « Reply #64 on: August 21, 2009, 07:36:07 AM »
            Remember, you'll only know how much you know when you get out in the real world and find out how little eveyone else knows......Geez , I hope that made sense.


            Never argue with a stupid person, they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

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            « Reply #65 on: August 21, 2009, 07:50:47 AM »
            All good things come to those who wait.

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            « Reply #66 on: August 21, 2009, 08:15:08 AM »
            ..Geez , I hope that made sense.


            Lol


            Well, hanging around here sure puts my knowledge to the test.  Any time I see a fresh question, I imagine I'm sitting right in front of their computer and ask myself, "ok, what would be the first logical step to take"?  In some cases it seems I still don't know what that is (actually, more cases than what I'd like, right now)...but I think I've gotten better in the last couple of months...


            anyway, like I said, I'm enjoying my Hobbit Hole  ;D      I am Mr. Bilbo Baggins

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            « Reply #67 on: August 21, 2009, 08:20:42 AM »
            anyway, like I said, I'm enjoying my Hobbit Hole  ;D      I am Mr. Bilbo Baggins

            Can I be Frodo? I'm short enough!  :D

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              « Reply #68 on: August 21, 2009, 08:21:31 AM »
              BH ...I've found this chart a great aid.......I may have posted it already so I apologize for doubleposting....It will assist with that first step.  ;)

              The 30" x 30" laminated wall chart cost $22.00 to have produced at Staples.

              http://fonerbooks.com/poster.pdf


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              « Reply #69 on: August 21, 2009, 08:22:11 AM »
              Can I be Frodo? I'm short enough!  :D


              heh,  yah, you can be Frodo............but I get to carry the RING OF POWER  >:(

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              « Reply #70 on: August 21, 2009, 08:25:05 AM »
              BH ...I've found this chart a great aid....

              holy mackarel!   that's quite a chart   :o

              I'm sure it will come in quite handy......

              hey, no wonder you've got so many "thanks" you're cheating!   :D

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              « Reply #71 on: August 21, 2009, 08:28:42 AM »

              heh,  yah, you can be Frodo............but I get to carry the RING OF POWER  >:(

              I think you will find that I carry the RING OF POWER>>:

              Ash nazg durbatulūk, ash nazg gimbatul,
              Ash nazg thrakatulūk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.

              One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them,
              One ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them.

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                Re: finding a job
                « Reply #72 on: August 21, 2009, 08:42:41 AM »

                hey, no wonder you've got so many "thanks" you're cheating!   :D

                Actually, the single greatest source of information is Google........70% of problems are caused by connections and Google handles the rest....People get a computer problem and they figure their problem is unique and no one has ever experienced the the same  issue, when in reality there are pages upon pages of Google hits all about that "unique" problem......


                Never argue with a stupid person, they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

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                « Reply #73 on: August 21, 2009, 08:45:36 AM »
                Actually, the single greatest source of information is Google........70% of problems are caused by connections and Google handles the rest....People get a computer problem and they figure their problem is unique and no one has ever experienced the the same  issue, when in reality there are pages upon pages of Google hits all about that "unique" problem......

                Very true. If people just looked...

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                « Reply #74 on: August 21, 2009, 08:47:50 AM »
                I think you will find that I carry the RING OF POWER>>:

                Ash nazg durbatulūk, ash nazg gimbatul,
                Ash nazg thrakatulūk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.



                Lol

                you know the language of Mordor?

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                « Reply #75 on: August 21, 2009, 08:49:47 AM »
                Very true. If people just looked...

                honestly, there have many times when I never felt like looking and left it up to the good people of CH to toss be a bone  ;D

                Especially when I first joined...  my first 200 posts, or so, were just questions I had...quite a few months before I got certified

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                « Reply #76 on: August 21, 2009, 08:53:01 AM »
                Of course I'm from Lancashire.... We English are required to learn the language of Mordor!

                Lol

                you know the language of Mordor?

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                « Reply #77 on: August 21, 2009, 08:55:03 AM »
                honestly, there have many times when I never felt like looking and left it up to the good people of CH to toss be a bone  ;D

                Especially when I first joined...  my first 200 posts, or so, were just questions I had...quite a few months before I got certified

                I still make silly mistakes, I new nothing before I came on here.

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                « Reply #78 on: August 21, 2009, 08:58:01 AM »
                Of course I'm from Lancashire.... We English are required to learn the language of Mordor!

                so do you English have pointed ears and carry and bow and arrows?  ::)

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                « Reply #79 on: August 21, 2009, 08:59:46 AM »
                so do you English have pointed ears and carry and bow and arrows?  ::)

                No thats the elves   ;)

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                « Reply #80 on: August 21, 2009, 09:04:24 AM »
                right!   sorry

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                Re: finding a job
                « Reply #81 on: August 21, 2009, 09:21:53 AM »
                yes, the English have Elves, the Irish have leprechauns, And the Welsh have sheep.
                I was trying to dereference Null Pointers before it was cool.

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                « Reply #82 on: August 21, 2009, 09:22:05 AM »
                right!   sorry

                Lol Where you from BH?

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                « Reply #83 on: August 21, 2009, 09:22:48 AM »
                yes, the English have Elves, the Irish have leprechauns, And the Welsh have sheep.

                That's funny lol!

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                « Reply #84 on: August 21, 2009, 10:08:29 AM »
                Lol Where you from BH?

                Fresno, California.........United States  ;)