Author Topic: Could someone please tell me if you can see the pictures? (Read 26735 times)

AmyR7 · « **on:** July 05, 2009, 03:05:30 PM »

Hi Everyone,
How are you all doing? Could someone please tell me if you can see the pictures on this part of my site- http://ilovecomputers9.angelfire.com/mycomputersite.htm

manadude2 · « **Reply #1 on:** July 05, 2009, 03:10:31 PM »

No, I get a box with a "?" inside it which means that it could not load the image.

Aegis · « **Reply #2 on:** July 05, 2009, 03:16:51 PM »

The picture image is not loading, nor is the image you have for the Computer Hope bar underneath. (Clicking on the picture area does nothing, but clicking on the rectangular bar take one to the Computer Hope main page.)

AmyR7 · « **Reply #3 on:** July 05, 2009, 03:36:38 PM »

Any suggestions as to what is causing them not to load?

Aegis · « **Reply #4 on:** July 05, 2009, 03:37:48 PM »

Did you write the code to place the pictures, or use an editor?

AmyR7 · « **Reply #5 on:** July 05, 2009, 03:47:22 PM »

Yes, an editor. I guess that is what all these things are referred to as.
Isn't this thing here that we are typing in on here considered an editor?

manadude2 · « **Reply #6 on:** July 05, 2009, 03:49:12 PM »

Could you post the code for the pictures here just for us to look at to see if there is anything wrong?

2x3i5x · « **Reply #7 on:** July 05, 2009, 03:54:06 PM »

also are you sure you have the images in the right folder within the angelfire storage place (the place where you upload your images so that you can use it for your webpage)?

It seems that the images couldn't be displayed so An gelfire was not able to find the images in the right locations so it displayed that error red X box on the webpage.

AmyR7 · « **Reply #8 on:** July 05, 2009, 04:04:28 PM »

1st one that isn't showing-
<img width=275 height=169
src="mycomputersite_files/image003.gif" v:shapes="_x0000_i1025">

2nd one that isn't showing-
<img border=0 width=468 height=60
src="mycomputersite_files/image005.gif" v:shapes="_x0000_i1026">

AmyR7 · « **Reply #9 on:** July 05, 2009, 04:10:08 PM »

Where is the red x? I don't even see a red x when I look.
I'm pretty sure I uploaded to the right place. I've got so many other sites I've made and seem to work.

soybean · « **Reply #10 on:** July 05, 2009, 05:47:02 PM »

Quote from: AmyR7 on July 05, 2009, 03:47:22 PM

Isn't this thing here that we are typing in on here considered an editor?

No, this is a forum, or discussion board.

Aegis · « **Reply #11 on:** July 05, 2009, 05:58:10 PM »

What you're thinking of, Amy, is that a lot of the commands which control quotes, and color, etc., look like the HTML commands.

2x3i5x · « **Reply #12 on:** July 05, 2009, 06:34:33 PM »

Quote from: AmyR7 on July 05, 2009, 04:10:08 PM

Where is the red x? I don't even see a red x when I look.
I'm pretty sure I uploaded to the right place. I've got so many other sites I've made and seem to work.

This is a screenshot of what I am seeing when I go to your website ... (I loaded this in internet explorer)

soybean · « **Reply #13 on:** July 05, 2009, 06:39:03 PM »

Quote from: AmyR7 on July 05, 2009, 04:04:28 PM

1st one that isn't showing-
<img width=275 height=169
src="mycomputersite_files/image003.gif" v:shapes="_x0000_i1025">

2nd one that isn't showing-
<img border=0 width=468 height=60
src="mycomputersite_files/image005.gif" v:shapes="_x0000_i1026">

You're still using Word to create web pages, aren't you? I believe that's why the v:shapes attribute is inside your img tag. Remove v:shapes.

You created a directory/folder out there named mycomputersite_files, right? Why not make this easy on yourself and upload those images to the same location, i.e. folder, as your html files. Thus, a simple image tag syntax would be: <img src="image005.gif">.

If you want to use the height and width attributes, those are normally placed after the src attribute. So, ou would have: <img src="image005.gif" width="468" height="60">. Note that I've also put the values for width and height in quotation marks.

2x3i5x · « **Reply #14 on:** July 05, 2009, 06:41:48 PM »

I think Amy might be using the Angelfire editor site building tool which they say "will let you build a website in minutes, no HTML skill required."

Is that right Amy? I don't think she was using Word to make the webpages...

BC_Programmer · « **Reply #15 on:** July 05, 2009, 07:54:33 PM »

Quote from: 2x3i5x on July 05, 2009, 06:41:48 PM

I think Amy might be using the Angelfire editor site building tool which they say "will let you build a website in minutes, no HTML skill required."

Is that right Amy? I don't think she was using Word to make the webpages...

aside from the STYLE attributes referencing Enumerations in the word library-

"msoNormal" mso= MicroSoft Office- why would the built in editor use that?

either way I suspect the reason is because she is using a folder on her PC, "mycomputersitefiles", but this doesn't reflect the state of things on the server.

soybean · « **Reply #16 on:** July 05, 2009, 08:07:25 PM »

Quote from: BC_Programmer on July 05, 2009, 07:54:33 PM

"msoNormal" mso= MicroSoft Office-

Yeah, I really hadn't looked at her source code but, now that I have looked, Word was obviously used.

AmyR7 · « **Reply #17 on:** July 05, 2009, 08:43:35 PM »

Quote from: soybean on July 05, 2009, 05:47:02 PM

No, this is a forum, or discussion board.

Ok, this is even more confusing. Why then does it have things that we edit what we are typing out here? Like we can center it, bold, add images, so many things. Same as like in our email programs too same type of things to edit the document.

I guess the reason I didn't see the red x is I'm using Mozilla.

The computer created the folder mycomputersite_files
That entire folder seems to have other things listed before it too such as My Documents, and also seems to put my mom's name in it too since this is her computer I guess that is why it has her name in it.

I use all different things to make my pages. Seems like some editors have more features than others. Only other thing I keep noticing is if I use what the websites give you to make the pages, then how do you back those files up is my other problems I'm running into trying to figure that out.
Also, I hope people don't think I'm just beginning to create websites either. I've been doing them for years now. So many different things I see typed out that it gets so confusing what is wrong or right ways. Here is a link to one of my other sites I've got on Angelfire that is showing up- http://www.angelfire.com/fl/JTT99/

Here is the link http://www.mountaindragon.com/html/images.htm#TOCfor a site that is making it even more confusing so you can see what I'm talking about. If you scroll down a bit on that site, it will show vspace in image tags. So, if this is something wrong, why are there things out there doing it this way.
The other big thing too is due to my health, I can't type for long or do much things for long. So, is easy for me to use the editors I'm using.

Aegis · « **Reply #18 on:** July 05, 2009, 09:06:34 PM »

Absolutely nothing wrong with using editors.

You might think about using something simple like Notepad, instead of Word, as I suspect Word adds a lot of unnecessary material to your code. (I'm not sure of this, but it is a suspicion.)

2x3i5x · « **Reply #19 on:** July 05, 2009, 11:07:17 PM »

Just llike people were not liking frontpage back in the day, not because it wasn't easy to use, but because the automated html generator of the frontpage added extra coding that was not necessary.

Quote from: AmyR7 on July 05, 2009, 08:43:35 PM

Ok, this is even more confusing ....

Technically I'd consider an editor some kind of program that you can use to edit or design things -- like when you are editing a webpage code for example. But then a forum or discussion board (although can have things that resemble an editor like the bold, italics, underline etc. buttons), you're posting messages to others, or in other words, discussion .... hence "discussion board"

I wonder if you had remembered to create a properly named folder (name of folder should be "mycomputersite_files" without the quotation marks) which should be in the root or home directory of angelfire ... if not, maybe that's giving you the error...

AmyR7 · « **Reply #20 on:** July 05, 2009, 11:55:53 PM »

This is even more weird. I sort of have things working mostly I think, except on the links page, one of the images seems to show up using Mozilla but it shows the x in Internet Explorer.
Everything else seems to be showing up just fine in both browsers though. Here is the http://ilovecomputers9.angelfire.com link to the main page of the site and then if you click on the thing that says links to other sites is the links page I created.

I really enjoy creating things too. That's one thing that things like Word let me create the background the way I want it to.
Just seems really weird though why under like Web Design classes, frontpage is also one it lists. Seems like a waste of time for the teachers having to teach how to do all that if not a good thing to use those things.

2x3i5x · « **Reply #21 on:** July 06, 2009, 12:03:06 AM »

That is one thing I hate about website making. One browser would like one of my pages and different browser would not like it and display the website funny. And your can't really guarantee what browser your visitors like to be using...

soybean · « **Reply #22 on:** July 06, 2009, 07:50:08 AM »

Quote from: AmyR7 on July 05, 2009, 11:55:53 PM

I really enjoy creating things too. That's one thing that things like Word let me create the background the way I want it to.

If you knew how to code HTML, you could create the background the way you want it.

Quote from: AmyR7 on July 05, 2009, 11:55:53 PM

Just seems really weird though why under like Web Design classes, frontpage is also one it lists. Seems like a waste of time for the teachers having to teach how to do all that if not a good thing to use those things.

Where was this Web Design class? Was it a course offered at a regular college, for college credit? I doubt that it was such. I know, for a fact, that students in web design classes at Columbus State Community College, in Columbus, Ohio, are told NOT to use Word because it inserts a lot of extra, unneeded coding; students are told use a text editor, such as Notepad. I'm quite sure the same policy is the norm for most, perhaps nearly all, respectable college courses in web design.

Aegis · « **Reply #23 on:** July 06, 2009, 08:50:19 AM »

I have used HTML Kit in the past. Lots of feature. Free!

Another which I've recently donwloaded, but not yet tried, is http://www.alleycode.com/Alleycode. Also free.

Give them a look, Amy, as they have editing capabilities, but also let you see your code.

AmyR7 · « **Reply #24 on:** July 06, 2009, 12:09:06 PM »

Yes, it was offered for college credit at Pensacola Junior College. Also, my nephew who is an Accountant, and is taking classes at University Of West Florida just had to take a webdesign class for his degree he is doing. They were using Word in the class.
Microsoft Word lets me see the html codes though.The other big thing is how can you use Notepad when sites don't offer that as a choice to use in the first place? They have you use a WYSIWYG editors.
Also notepad doesn't have a spellchecker, you can only use one font with it. Can't use bold or do any other thing to just one word or a few words because it does it to the whole document. You can't add pictures or anything else either.
Last time I tried to use my Notepad for just taking notes, I couldn't due to problems its having and people hacking in typing over things and all these little dots.... coming across the screen.
Plus as I keep trying to say too, due to my health, lots of physically disabilities I have, it would be impossible for me to type out all those codes that the editors do for you.
Also, everytime I go to any site on the Internet, there are so many errors all over every website I go to. Sites that are not mine at all. So, how is anyone ever suppose to do anything correct if everything out there is wrong in the first place.
I'm sorry, but I can't download that html editor. It's my mom's computer, she doesn't want me to do it. She says why can't we just use what we already have. The computer doesn't have the room for it either. Plus she says we already have software that will do these things already, so why do we need something else?
Also, I notice that some keep saying that Word or any of the other Office programs don't do CSS, but then could someone please explain why there are CSS files and also this here-
About attaching cascading style sheets
You can use Microsoft Word to attach, remove, and manage cascading style sheets (CSS) for Web pages. Cascading style sheets provide a convenient way to format several Web pages or a whole Web site. To change the format of the pages, you can make changes to the style sheet without having to edit each Web page.
You can use Word to attach more than one style sheet. For example, you might have a style sheet that's part of a large Web site, such as one for a university, and then another style sheet that defines a smaller group of related pages, such as one for a department within the university.
You can also determine which style sheet takes precedence over another, in case conflicting styles are defined for the same elements.

When you attach a style sheet to your Web page in Word, the styles will appear in the Styles and Formatting task pane.

Aegis · « **Reply #25 on:** July 06, 2009, 12:22:48 PM »

Quote

It's my mom's computer, she doesn't want me to do it. She says why can't we just use what we already have.

They were just suggestions. The thing I liked most about HTML kit was that you could see the results of your pages without having to "launch" a browser.

Let me check one more I've seen folks recommend: Notepad ++

Your mom has a point, but what if you found something better than what you have? That's the reason I'm making the suggestions, that's all.

AmyR7 · « **Reply #26 on:** July 06, 2009, 12:41:30 PM »

Are you talking about launching a browser for viewing any website, or just with a site we created?
No, we don't have to launch the browser to view what we create using Office programs. There is a weblayout viewing thing, and it lets us view the page with the background, pictures, text, everything we put on it.
Also, has an html source code viewer too. That is what is getting confusing people saying it doesn't, but it does seem to.
I also noticed that Netscape which isn't around anymore, but I still have it on my computer seems to allow you to create a website too, only thing I notice is the coding is a little different, and it puts like the word style in different places than I notice in Word. Is that what you all are talking about?
Also, I'm not doing this for a job or anything due to my health and disabilities are so many things I can't do and can't do for long either.
I'm only doing it for hobby since I like to create things, and people do seem to be able to see my sites just fine. I have guestbooks on my sites and people seem to really enjoy my sites and even say I have good structure on it them too are just some of the things people have been saying. Except I know we keep having hacking and stuff too and that keeps messing stuff up too. So, then makes me not want to spend alot of time anyways because it gets messed up.
All I say is I'm sorry if there is anyone out there who doesn't like the things I use to create my pages with.

Aegis · « **Reply #27 on:** July 06, 2009, 12:46:25 PM »

Oh, don't apologize!

If Word is working for you, and it has all those feature -- I was not aware! -- then continue doing what you're doing. (Sounds like you've done a lot more page creation than me!)

AmyR7 · « **Reply #28 on:** July 06, 2009, 12:53:45 PM »

Ok, this explains some of the confusion I think. We are talking about 2 different Notepads then.
Looking through the screenshots and stuff, our notepad looks totally different from it.
Our's also isn't called Notepad++
Microsoft Notepad Version 5.1 is what it says if you go up to help and About Notepad.

Sorry, but my mom still doesn't want me to download it.

Aegis · « **Reply #29 on:** July 06, 2009, 01:01:18 PM »

Nothing wrong with the basic Notepad...the last one I suggested is more of a "beefed-up" version which some people prefer to use over the regular Notepad, that's all.

2x3i5x · « **Reply #30 on:** July 06, 2009, 01:10:43 PM »

Notepad++ is a third party tool that is not made by Microsoft; like said before, Notepad++ is simply a better version of the notepad Microsoft provided with windows.

If you wanted though, you could get .... Microsoft Expressions, from this link https://www.dreamspark.com/Products/Product.aspx?ProductId=5

Microsoft Expressions is the software that Microsoft developed (that replaced Frontpage)

AmyR7 · « **Reply #31 on:** July 06, 2009, 05:27:47 PM »

Being a 3rd party tool we wouldn't be able to use something like that anyways. So many things out there say not to use a 3rd party tool.
My mom doesn't want me to download this Microsoft Expressions thing either. Sorry. She also keeps saying to me that we can't have everything in life be perfect.

2x3i5x · « **Reply #32 on:** July 06, 2009, 06:00:17 PM »

I'm so sorry things had to be like that. I know how frustrating that can be

But did you finally figure out how to get your images to be appearing normally instead of the other things showing up to indicate that the image is not going to show up?

At this point, if your websites generated by Microsoft Word is working fine, then I'd just stay with that for now.

Good Luck, let us know if you come across anything new

soybean · « **Reply #33 on:** July 06, 2009, 08:14:29 PM »

Quote from: AmyR7 on July 06, 2009, 05:27:47 PM

Being a 3rd party tool we wouldn't be able to use something like that anyways.

Sure, you would. All you need to do is download it and install it. It's totally harmless and it's free. For those web developers who use a text editor, Notepad++ is much nicer than Windows Notepad.

Quote from: AmyR7 on July 06, 2009, 05:27:47 PM

So many things out there say not to use a 3rd party tool.

Can you give a specific example? Perhaps we need to define 3rd party. One definition here might be non-Microsoft products. Many thousands of computer users are enjoying the benefit of all kinds of third party software; some must, of course, be purchased; some, called freeware, is free.

AmyR7 · « **Reply #34 on:** July 06, 2009, 11:02:23 PM »

Yes, we understand what 3rd party is.
Sorry, but my mom doesn't want me to download Notepad++. Our Internet Provider does not work with Notepad++. We have to use their software. We already have bought all the software and stuff to do stuff we want to be able to do. Our computers don't have the room for anymore either. Plus this is not a mobile device either or a cellphone.
We aren't web developers either.

2x3i5x · « **Reply #35 on:** July 06, 2009, 11:30:49 PM »

so I see- you've already spent money on a lot of software, which can do most of the things you want to be doing, if not everything since there's no program out there that is 100% perfect and it seems that you (or perhaps your mom more so) don't feel like installing more programs that you probably won't be using for long term

So the only thing left is that question again (regarding what you asked initially)-- did you finally figure out why your images were not appearing on your site correctly?

kpac · « **Reply #36 on:** July 07, 2009, 06:17:28 AM »

Quote from: AmyR7 on July 06, 2009, 11:02:23 PM

Our Internet Provider does not work with Notepad++

Don't know exactly what you mean here. What software is on your computer has nothing to do with your ISP.

Quote from: AmyR7 on July 06, 2009, 11:02:23 PM

Plus this is not a mobile device either or a cellphone.

No-one said it was.

Quote from: AmyR7 on July 06, 2009, 11:02:23 PM

We aren't web developers either.

You create websites don't you? So you are a web developer - someone who develops websites.

2x3i5x · « **Reply #37 on:** July 07, 2009, 10:39:37 AM »

I think Amy meant she wasn't a professional web developer, so has no need for so many different website creating softwares on her computer.

AmyR7 · « **Reply #38 on:** July 07, 2009, 11:54:36 AM »

The software is how we are connected to our ISP through the settings that we have to use for the Internet. They send us a cd with the software to load on to get the Internet setup. Also, like anytime we have a problem with the Internet not working right, why does the ISP want to know like what client we are using? Outlook Express. They also say things about like what browser we are using too.

Correct, I'm not a professional website designer or doing it for my job either.
Another thing, my dad(passed away due to cancer) was a computer programmer, so is what got me interested in using computers.
The reason I said the thing about thinking this is a cellphone or mobile phone, iphone, people keep giving me links to sites about like Css for mobile phones, cellphones, and linking to mobile phones. Here is one of thehttp://johannburkard.de/blog/www/mobile/Linking-CSS-for-handheld-devices-revisited.html links out of many of different links people keep giving me.

The only reason I started creating the sites I've created, started creating them back in 1995/1996 is because I enjoy creating things, plus I enjoy helping others out too. So, on each of my sites, at least one page will have just links to other sites out there. So, the title of the page I usually just say like if I'm making a site on a celebrity, which most of my sites are on celebs since that is one thing I enjoy alot, I put like Links to other Jonathan Taylor Thomas Sites for the title and then put together a list of links. Then it helps give people free advertising. Then I get to format things like the background, choose what colors for like the text and the links too.
Then I put the pictures up too. Also, on like the links pages I make, I usually try and see if sites have a banner, then that helps give my sites some cute graphics too.
I also started creating my sites before the classes I've taken. I also noticed in another post on here just the other day someone new to creating sites was asking about different things to use and also was talking about static and dynamic sites. Which we learned all that stuff dynamic and static sites differences between them too and how to do them. Learned how to do animation things stuff like that, but did all the stuff with all those Microsoft programs. I have also noticed that the places we put our sites on, seem to give things to use to create/edit pages with too. Which I've been using those too.

Oh and yes, I did figure out what was wrong with the pictures not showing up. It was the thing about the folder not being there.

One thing too since too much animation crashes my computer, so is a big reason I really try not to do anything animated.
Another thing I keep trying to understand, it seems that like every website out there has problems with the codes not being right. So, how is anything suppose to ever be 100% right or for us to learn the correct ways to ever do things. Every website I go to, in the error console thing keeps coming up with so many different errors.
Here are some of what I'm talking about:
Warning: Error in parsing value for property 'FONT-WEIGHT'. Declaration dropped.
Source File: http://wdvl.com/Authoring/Style/Sheets/NavMar.css
Line: 631
Error: Permission denied to call method Location.toString
Warning: Error in parsing value for property 'left'. Declaration dropped.
Source File: http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&channel=s&hl=en&q=web+developers&btnG=Google+Search
Line: 0
Warning: Error in parsing value for property 'top'. Declaration dropped.
Source File: http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&channel=s&hl=en&q=web+developers&btnG=Google+Search
Line: 0

Anyways, it seems like I must not be doing much wrong at all since all these years my pages seem to be showing up correctly. In all my guestbooks I read the things people say and they seem to all really like my sites alot and even say things about like the structure is really good too. Like I've mentioned due to my physical problems I can't just sit there and type out all the codes that the programs and all do for us.

Again, sorry, but my mom doesn't want me to download Notepad++. This same thing has happend with another similar situation, our ISP said we can upgrade to the new AT&T homepage and has all these neat things we can use to create/customize our page with. My mom didn't want me to do that because she is afraid it will mess up her account if I do anything with mine. I guess because of the thing that says the main accounts have to do their settings first, and hers is listed as the main one. She just said sorry, you can't do everything in life that you want to do.
It still looks like Notepad++ it has to do with browsing the internet. Why does it say stuff about browsers in the stuff about it and TCP/IP settings. and it also keeps talking about passwords and usernames for it too. It talks about bookmarks too. Which all those things is what browsers all have in them. Our computers also don't have the room for anymore stuff either, especially mine. Mine came with 256MB of RAM. Then after switching from Earthlink Dialup to Bellsouth DSL, has caused my computer to have so much problems. Did just get some more memory added just before Christmas, but still having memory problems.

2x3i5x · « **Reply #39 on:** July 07, 2009, 12:10:39 PM »

Well, I tested out your website using firefox (mozilla) browser and internet explorer. Seems that Firefox displays your images fine, but internet explorer still gives the red X indicating that an image is missing (the picture of the computer is the only image I see that is showing that red X)

AmyR7 · « **Reply #40 on:** July 07, 2009, 12:33:55 PM »

This is exactly why I feel terrible for those who are professional webpage designers. What if they don't have Internet Explorer. Then they would never know or be able to fix the problem either. IE has been broken on both mine and mom's computers for years now.
The repairmen and even my brother-in-law just keep saying don't use IE use Mozilla instead.

kpac · « **Reply #41 on:** July 07, 2009, 01:06:41 PM »

Quote from: AmyR7 on July 07, 2009, 12:33:55 PM

This is exactly why I feel terrible for those who are professional webpage designers. What if they don't have Internet Explorer. Then they would never know or be able to fix the problem either.

A "professional web designer" usually has all the popular browsers on their PC to test out the pages before uploading. I wouldn't exactly call myself professional, but I have IE, Firefox, Opera, Chrome, Safari, and Netscape.

2x3i5x · « **Reply #42 on:** July 07, 2009, 01:11:31 PM »

Quote from: AmyR7 on July 07, 2009, 12:33:55 PM

This is exactly why I feel terrible for those who are professional webpage designers. What if they don't have Internet Explorer. Then they would never know or be able to fix the problem either. IE has been broken on both mine and mom's computers for years now.
The repairmen and even my brother-in-law just keep saying don't use IE use Mozilla instead.

Amy, you might install the IE Tab addon for firefox (if that's what you refer to when you said Mozilla and your mom has no problem with you installing it)

See this link ... https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1419

This IE Tab will allow webpages to load in IE mode within firefox (when activated) so you can see how your webpages look (IE Tab isn't 100% exact replacement for the standalone IE application but for most purposes, it does its job fine)

Rob Pomeroy · « **Reply #43 on:** July 07, 2009, 02:49:40 PM »

Quote from: kpac on July 07, 2009, 01:06:41 PM

A "professional web designer" usually has all the popular browsers on their PC to test out the pages before uploading. I wouldn't exactly call myself professional, but I have IE, Firefox, Opera, Chrome, Safari, and Netscape.

Actually, in my miserable experience, most individuals who hold themselves out as "professional web designers" test exclusively in IE and then wonder why I rant about them.

2x3i5x · « **Reply #44 on:** July 07, 2009, 03:07:23 PM »

What about "Professional Web Developers" that develop websites using a Mac? No IE on a MacOS apparently (you'd need to have windows installed to get it)

AmyR7 · « **Reply #45 on:** July 07, 2009, 03:13:11 PM »

How are you able to have all those browsers on a computer? You would have to have alot of memory?
Thank you for the link for the IE thing, but mom still doesn't want me to do that one either.
Due to so many problems with software causing problems and conflicts too with other stuff too, is a big reason my mom doesn't want all these things. We have had these problems so many times on our computers.
Another thing I just thought of, there is a Windows XP Professional and Home Edition. We have Home Edition. Anyways, wouldn't a professional website designer need the Professional version?

2x3i5x · « **Reply #46 on:** July 07, 2009, 03:27:02 PM »

A professional web designer can use a home edition just fine. Professional edition of windows xp does not contain anything that would give much advantage to the web designer in terms of making websites.

Professional version of XP just has more security and some other features (that you would typically want to have in a business environment, but you aren't worried too much about as an average home user)

BC_Programmer · « **Reply #47 on:** July 07, 2009, 03:34:46 PM »

the two basic things it has that Home edition doesn't is EFS (encrypting File system) and Compression at the file system level, both features of NTFS. There are probably a few other things here and there, but that is what it boils down to.

Aegis · « **Reply #48 on:** July 07, 2009, 03:41:42 PM »

The other differences are at that level: things like how an XP Pro admin can work with workstations on a local area network, and security issues.

As far as applications and programs, an XP Home user can still perform professional functions, so you're a professional compared to many!

AmyR7 · « **Reply #49 on:** July 07, 2009, 05:18:22 PM »

I hope this is ok for me to put a picture up of a room I made. Just wanted to show one of the things I like to design things. Since I like creating things. This is on a site I use Webkinz. Allows me to make webpages, rooms for our pets that we bought, plus it allows us to create videos, stories, so many things it lets us do.
This is a picture of the movie theater I created.

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Aegis · « **Reply #50 on:** July 07, 2009, 05:24:28 PM »

Very nice. Good to see creativity.

Cityscape · « **Reply #51 on:** July 07, 2009, 05:48:15 PM »

I can see everything on your website perfectly. And I'm using Mozilla Firefox 3.5
However in IE7 the picture of the Desktop+Monitor+Speakers does not show.

I will be testing Amy's page also in Opera, Chrome, Safari, and Netscape as soon as i get time...

2x3i5x · « **Reply #52 on:** July 07, 2009, 06:33:07 PM »

Google Chrome is fine, I just tried it out. I expect Safari to be fine as well, since Chrome is based on webkit, the engine that is powering Safari

AmyR7 · « **Reply #53 on:** July 09, 2009, 12:28:52 PM »

Just wanted to thank you all very much for checking out my pages since I don't have all those other browsers.
Also, I may have found out something and wondering if maybe this could be what the problem is. If Angelfire does anything like what Geocities does, maybe could be the problem.
Here is what I'm talking about, not sure if I understand it though, but from another site I have been on someone said something about the codes Geocities does- Some of those errors is because Geocities server writes code to your pages which you have no control over.

I have a question about that, how are codes ever suppose to be 100% right if this is what is happening?

soybean · « **Reply #54 on:** July 09, 2009, 12:37:35 PM »

There's really nothing you can do about code added by free services such as Geocities. If you want to get entirely away from that, you need to pay for a hosting service. Many inexpensive ones are available. The cost could as low as $4/mo. or possible less.

And, to reiterate another point, web pages created with Word will always have some extra, unneeded coding added. If some class on creating web pages advised students to use Word, it is because the course provider is trying make web page creation easy for persons who don't want to take time to really learn how to code HTML. This is most likely to happen where the course is geared for students do not intend to become professional website developers but are persons interested in a personal or small business website of their own. A college curriculum designed to teach students to become professional web developers will not have students using Word to create their pages.

AmyR7 · « **Reply #55 on:** July 09, 2009, 12:53:03 PM »

Since I can't and don't work due to my health and disabilities, I don't have the money to pay for a hosting site.

Just thought of something else to ask real quick to make sure I understand about the differences free hosting. Just this past August before my health got worse and problems with my computer kept crashing too when trying to help out my sister and her husband doing a site for free for his new job, but they are now having to pay someone to do it, anyways, someone told me this-
Looks and seems to work ok except for the coding errors that Geocities server writes to your pages. You would be so much better off using a free hosting service like http://FreeWebs.com/ instead.

Now wouldn't free webs be considered a free hosting site?
Also, here is the url to my sister and her husband site, maybe someone can help me understand if their site is a free hosting or how can you tell? I thought they were paying for theirs, but maybe not.
http://www.astresurfacing.com/

Of course we are paying for the internet, DSL internet. I'm also paying on Webkinz, so would that be considered not a free host? www.webkinz.com is where it is, and yes I did have to pay for an account there. Had to buy a pet and then register everything. Can't just go and create a free account or anything.

2x3i5x · « **Reply #56 on:** July 09, 2009, 01:13:48 PM »

but in any case, if your website is working as intended, that is the important thing, even with the extra codes or whatever that geocities or any other free website hosting service may add to your pages since you couldn't do anything about them anyway.

And I see that those free hosting websites may add that code to display the advertisements (for those hosting sites that have those)

AmyR7 · « **Reply #57 on:** July 09, 2009, 02:18:12 PM »

I'm beginning to feel even more stupid now. Maybe I don't know as much as I thought.
I guess since I'm not doing it for a job or anything like that doesn't really matter.
Sorry if I'm asking too many questions or anything, maybe some of my questions will help people who want to do for their job.

I would like to understand why things seem to be working out and showing up if things are wrong. Which actually, I started creating my first site before even taking the classes I've taken.
I'll try and explain a bit more what all we did in the classes I've taken- Word wasn't the only thing we used though. Used other things too- Powerpoint, Excel, Frontpage, so many other things too and learned about dynamic and static webpages too. Here is one of the pages http://itech.pjc.edu/llemley/cgs1570w/resources.htm on the class and maybe someone can explain, why on this part of the site for the class, why does it talk about all it does.
We learned everything from adding doing links, font colors, background colors, paragraphs, heading, adding the pictures, text, everything we learned to do. Learned how to do animated stuff too. Used templates in the class.
The only other thing I can think of, are you trying to say that Word doesn't have a way to view the codes or that it doesn't allow you to save a page with .htm or .html extensions? If so, then I don't understand why it does allow me to save it with those extensions and it does have a code source viewer, and does do css too.

Thanks,
Amy

kpac · « **Reply #58 on:** July 09, 2009, 03:47:58 PM »

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Also, here is the url to my sister and her husband site, maybe someone can help me understand if their site is a free hosting or how can you tell? I thought they were paying for theirs, but maybe not.
http://www.astresurfacing.com/

It isn't free. You can tell because the website is just one domain (the domain is "astresurfacing.com"), whereas a free website would be "astresurfacing.freeweb.com". See the difference?

AmyR7 · « **Reply #59 on:** July 09, 2009, 04:09:54 PM »

Just to make sure I understand the url/domain thing,
Are you trying to say if it has freeweb in the address then it is a free site?
Also, everything I keep reading about domains, see one of my email addresses is my username I type in and then @bellsouth.net for the rest of it. The thing I'm trying to understand, in the class I took, it had an Email address typed out and showed us all the parts, and the thing that comes after the @ is the domain.
See I wouldn't be able to login to the internet or do emails or anything if we weren't paying for DSL internet service. We are logged in all the time too.

Also, at my sites I have on like Geocities, Angelfire, myspace, facebook, etc.. they don't have the word freeweb in the url. Like on Geocities, here is one of my sites http://www.geocities.com/jttfan20
Why doesn't it have the freewebs thing in it? Just in case you are wondering what the jttfan20 is, it's my username I picked since it's a Jtt site I created.

kpac · « **Reply #60 on:** July 09, 2009, 04:14:27 PM »

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Are you trying to say if it has freeweb in the address then it is a free site?

No, no. "freeweb" could be anything. It's just that your site would be what's called a "subdomain" of the main site.
I have a guide on my own site which may explain some of it.

http://www.webdesigntuts.net/html-tutorials/guide-to-html-links.html (yes I wrote it myself, this time

)

AmyR7 · « **Reply #61 on:** July 09, 2009, 04:38:24 PM »

Thank you so much, yes, this explains just what the class says on all this stuff.
I also see how you typed out the codes for links and all that, yes, that is how things are typed out on my pages when I look at the codes, if I'm understanding it right.
Before even taking that class, I learned so much computer stuff though from my dad since he was a computer programmer. I miss my dad so much too

. One of the things we always liked to do is chat with each other while he's at work I we would make chatrooms on like Mirc. Also other things we enjoyed doing all the time too is playing computer games too and trying to beat each others scores(which I always seem to do better than him on alot of them

).

AmyR7 · « **Reply #62 on:** July 09, 2009, 04:49:06 PM »

Sorry for posting again, but thought of something I'm just always wondering.
Is how are we able to do so many things out there as it seems we are able to add to our pages for free like creating a playlist of our favorite songs, videos, to add to our pages? Only thing I can think of is that is just something we get as part of all the money we pay anyways to use the internet.
Similar example is in order to watch tv, record tv shows and movies we are paying all this money to the cable company in order to get all the channel/stations.

2x3i5x · « **Reply #63 on:** July 09, 2009, 06:36:34 PM »

I don't really know if it's because we paid to use the internet

But however though, at least for Angelfire, you know there's advertisements on your pages, that's allowing Angelfire to offset the costs of having that storage space that you, as the end user get to use for free

In the end, everything costs something doesn't it ... money, time ... resources ...

AmyR7 · « **Reply #64 on:** July 09, 2009, 07:51:48 PM »

Here is something I just read and that maybe explains what I'm talking about us already paying for the internet is somehow paying for this stuff?
Or get more with an Angelfire Elements subscription, starting at just $4.95/Month:
* No Ads & More Space
* Domain Name, POP/IMAP Email & Webmail tools

See when we setup our Bellsouth DSL stuff we had to do all the Pop, IMap, email and webmail settings.

So, I guess I'm thinking in order to even get to the websites in the first place, we couldn't get there if we didn't have the Internet at all and we are online all the time too with it being DSL and having to pay way more than $4.95 a month for the whole service.

I sort of see having the ads there gives the page some free graphics.
Plus like I've mentioned before about I enjoy helping others out, all my pages have a links page I make for them which for the title of the page I'll put something like (Links to other computer sites)- is what I have for the site I just started about computers. On that page I've got the banner for computer hope that I found you all have. No need to thank me for adding it. I feel that it helps give me a cute graphic for the page.
By being able to choose things like the colors for the background, text, links, all that stuff we get to choose from the lists feels like I'm creating things. I had to learn how to choose colors that look good with each other. Which I guess that is the situation with anything we create in life, whether it's for a website or just a picture we create for fun. Do you all like that movie theater I created? In case you are wondering what all those animals are doing sitting there, those are some of my pets I've adopted. I actually have more pets, but they were in other rooms of the house at the time. They didn't feel like going to the movies.

Well, I'll see you all later.
Take Care,
Amy

AmyR7 · « **Reply #65 on:** July 10, 2009, 12:00:54 PM »

Good news I think. That picture that wasn't showing up in IE, seems to maybe now be showing up.
What I did was first just tried to see if maybe this one little thing in the codes might be what is causing it. Just in case it somehow messes up the other stuff, I just opened up notepad and saved the code in there in case I need to put it back for some reason.

2x3i5x · « **Reply #66 on:** July 10, 2009, 12:08:27 PM »

The website works in Internet Explorer fine, including the Compuuter and speaker image that used to be missing

Rob Pomeroy · « **Reply #67 on:** July 10, 2009, 12:37:27 PM »

Well done Amy.

computeruler · « **Reply #68 on:** July 10, 2009, 02:18:09 PM »

works great

kpac · « **Reply #69 on:** July 10, 2009, 02:25:30 PM »

Trying to get post count up, are we?

We've already established that it does work....

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