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Which do you believe?

Evolution (Charles Darwin)
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Evolution or Creationism?
« on: September 18, 2009, 01:24:48 PM »
An English film as just been released called Creation, however it has yet to be revealed in America because of controversy towards Cristian teachings (No one will publish it). So which do you believe? The theory of creation or evolution?

In case anyone is wondering personally I believe in evolution but I don't rule out divine intervention or even planing and execution of the end results of evolution (basically that things change over time but that's probably how god works).

Please Post comments because the poll is largely a meaningless eye catcher. You may change your vote at any time. (I think)

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Re: Evolution or Creationism?
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2009, 01:45:05 PM »
Who created the Creator?

 ???

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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2009, 01:54:30 PM »
Personally, I think that the fact that this film cannot get a release in the USA shows just what a backward country it is. And they have the colossal cheek to claim to be the world leader. Still, it seems their power is being cut down to size by world events. About time.

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Re: Evolution or Creationism?
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2009, 02:10:53 PM »
Personally, I think that the fact that this film cannot get a release in the USA shows just what a backward country it is. And they have the colossal cheek to claim to be the world leader. Still, it seems their power is being cut down to size by world events. About time.

Unless you believe Doctor Who then when did we say that we were masters of the world? What power? Maybe 100 years ago your statement would be valid but... it's 2009. These days England is that little bloke you see  pop up behind the big bloke that started the fight and says "Yeah!". Only to hide in the corner when fighting brakes out.

Who created the Creator?

 ???

His mother & father :P

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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2009, 02:22:21 PM »
At least we can spell "break". As to the other thing, come on! What planet have you been living on lately? Americans are always saying they are the world's "only superpower" and that they think they have a God given right to boss everybody else around. All that "shining beacon on a hill" crap. But all you can do is make fun of "England". As for hiding in the corner, we didn't do that either in Iraq or Afghanistan, or when fighting the Irish terrorists the USA funded in the 1970s 80s and 90s.

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    « Reply #5 on: September 18, 2009, 02:23:16 PM »
    What created Anything one day nothing Exploded there have always have being something Nothing can't explode the creator wasn't created he was here forever.


     
    Things change dogs turn into different kinds of dogs cats turn into different kinds of cats

    but cats don't change into birds


    if a Beagle labrador border collie Poodle black labs great dane  Chihuahua Golden Retriever Siberian Husky
    Rottweilers pitbull dalmation doberman,   and all the other dogs, and cats, and all the different kinds of all the Animals went on the ark it would of sank if they all could of even fitted in the Boat  only two of every kind  but not over the 660 estimated kinds of Dogs and the millions of kinds of animals

    The ark did not look like this
    http://www.beginningingenesis.com/fake%20ark.jpg

    The ark was eprox 450 feet long 150 feet longer than a football field




    More than 50 percent of Americans believe that God created people  according to this cbs poll

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/11/22/opinion/polls/main657083.shtml


     


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    « Reply #6 on: September 18, 2009, 04:01:20 PM »

    The ark was eprox 450 feet long 150 feet longer than a football field


     ::)

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    Re: Evolution or Creationism?
    « Reply #7 on: September 18, 2009, 04:22:32 PM »
    At least we can spell "break". As to the other thing, come on! What planet have you been living on lately? Americans are always saying they are the world's "only superpower" and that they think they have a God given right to boss everybody else around. All that "shining beacon on a hill" crap. But all you can do is make fun of "England". As for hiding in the corner, we didn't do that either in Iraq or Afghanistan, or when fighting the Irish terrorists the USA funded in the 1970s 80s and 90s.


    you go for it salmon trout , we here in northern ireland had to live with the murders and bombers for 30 years

    back to the topic , what was it , o yes , i believe in evolution i have asked a lot of christians to work out when they think by the bible when adam and eve where created and the answer was only in the very high 1000s , but the earth and its animals go back millions of years , the latest animal to be found is 64 million years old

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      « Reply #8 on: September 18, 2009, 04:24:53 PM »
      the bible tells us how big the ark was

      Noah's Ark was huge! If you wrongly imagine the Ark looked like some of those little cartoon boats in children's story books, with a couple of elephants' trunks and giraffes' necks sticking out the top, think again.

      Genesis 6:15 in the Bible tells us the Ark's dimensions were at least 135 meters long (300 cubits), 22.5 meters wide (50 cubits), and 13.5 meters high (30 cubits). That's 450 feet long, 75 feet wide, and 45 feet high! It could have been larger, because several larger-sized cubits were used. But the 45-centimeter (18-inch) cubit is long enough to show the enormous size of the Ark.

      (A cubit was the length of a man's arm from fingertips to elbow.)


      carbon dating and other methods of determening the age of something are wrong
      evulutionist don't have one good inbetween fossil
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      « Reply #9 on: September 18, 2009, 04:28:11 PM »
      Bull. Such a boat built out of the material available (wood) would collapse under its own weight. Do you really believe that BS?

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        « Reply #10 on: September 18, 2009, 04:41:39 PM »
        and these wooding ships were designed by humans

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_world's_largest_wooden_ships

        The dimensions of the Ark are convincing for two reasons: the proportions are like that of a modern cargo ship, and it is about as large as a wooden ship can be built. The cubit gives us a good indication of size.1 With the cubit’s measurement, we know that the Ark must have been at least 450 feet (137 m) long, 75 feet (23 m) wide, and 45 feet (14 m) high. In the Western world, wooden sailing ships never got much longer than about 330 feet (100 m), yet the ancient Greeks built vessels at least this size 2,000 years earlier. China built huge wooden ships in the 1400s that may have been as large as the Ark. The biblical Ark is one of the largest wooden ships of all time—a mid-sized cargo ship by today’s standards.
         

        did you even look up anything to back up your thinking 


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        « Reply #11 on: September 18, 2009, 04:50:44 PM »
        Who created the Creator.
        His mother & father :P

        The creator created everything. Did the creator create his own Mother and Father?  Your reason is circular. 
        No one can answer the question:  Who created the creator?

        We don't know, we cannot know and it does not matter.

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        Re: Evolution or Creationism?
        « Reply #12 on: September 18, 2009, 04:57:58 PM »
        there's no way they could build a boat that size in the time they had

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        Re: Evolution or Creationism?
        « Reply #13 on: September 18, 2009, 05:02:11 PM »

        God is in all of us, how you understand God is a different story
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          « Reply #14 on: September 18, 2009, 05:04:03 PM »
          How Could Noah Build the Ark?
          The Bible does not tell us that Noah and his sons built the Ark by themselves. Noah could have hired skilled laborers or had relatives, such as Methuselah and Lamech, help build the vessel. However, nothing indicates that they could not—or that they did not—build the Ark themselves in the time allotted. The physical strength and mental processes of men in Noah’s day was at least as great (quite likely, even superior) to our own.2 They certainly would have had efficient means for harvesting and cutting timber, as well as for shaping, transporting, and erecting the massive beams and boards required.
          If one or two men today can erect a large house in just 12 weeks, how much more could three or four men do in a few years? Adam’s descendants were making complex musical instruments, forging metal, and building cities—their tools, machines, and techniques were not primitive.

          it's not even a foot a day
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