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    Cloud PC?
    « on: April 26, 2010, 12:25:51 AM »
    Dear Forum,
    I think the future of the PC might be in a cloud application with a small, portable laptop. Can you imagine a netbook size, cheep PC that accesses the internet for all high level programs? Do you know if anyone is working of this?
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    Mike
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    Re: Cloud PC?
    « Reply #1 on: April 26, 2010, 02:56:51 AM »
    Windows 8 is re-scratched into a cloud OS, still in production. Totally different from their previous cr@p, with extra topping.  ;)
    Now they will have 2000% more hack attempts! Will they ever learn? Looks pretty at least and will get more sales, that's the main thing right?
    Can you imagine everyone using cloud computering, you won't even own the games and application, pay to play on a server due to anti-priate protection, others leeching off your processor and bandwidth, etc?!?!!!

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    The movie, Terminator 1, 2, and 3, based on Skynet will come true in 2012 :D
    Skynet is a real company by the way which has already built automatic robotics they lightly based the movies on and if you watched them soon after the cloud internet was in place mankind started up A.I. Skynet to wipe out the worlds biggest enemy... which backfired, what you know us humans! lol heh I just love those movies, my favs!
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    Re: Cloud PC?
    « Reply #2 on: April 26, 2010, 08:51:32 AM »
    Windows 8 is re-scratched into a cloud OS, still in production. Totally different from their previous cr@p, with extra topping.  ;)
    Now they will have 2000% more hack attempts! Will they ever learn? Looks pretty at least and will get more sales, that's the main thing right?
    Can you imagine everyone using cloud computering, you won't even own the games and application, pay to play on a server due to anti-priate protection, others leeching off your processor and bandwidth, etc?!?!!!

    ps.
    The movie, Terminator 1, 2, and 3, based on Skynet will come true in 2012 :D
    Skynet is a real company by the way which has already built automatic robotics they lightly based the movies on and if you watched them soon after the cloud internet was in place mankind started up A.I. Skynet to wipe out the worlds biggest enemy... which backfired, what you know us humans! lol heh I just love those movies, my favs!

    A:) you evidently have no idea what cloud computing is.
    B:) you have no idea what Windows 8 will be like or based on so stop inventing details
    C:) If your going to base a future prediction on a hollywood movie you may as well include Tiberium in your prediction in some way as well.

    Dear Forum,
    I think the future of the PC might be in a cloud application with a small, portable laptop. Can you imagine a netbook size, cheep PC that accesses the internet for all high level programs? Do you know if anyone is working of this?
    Thanks!
    Mike
     ;)

    I think chrome OS is pretty close to that. AFAIK it's pretty much a shell around The chrome browser, and you use things like google apps.
    I was trying to dereference Null Pointers before it was cool.

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    Re: Cloud PC?
    « Reply #3 on: April 26, 2010, 09:12:00 AM »
    I'm currently working on Thunderstorm computing...pretty unstable so far though.
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    « Reply #4 on: April 26, 2010, 09:19:44 AM »
    I'm currently working on Thunderstorm computing...pretty unstable so far though.


    Yeah, it seems to ac-cumulus a lot of charge...

    I don't think I've ever packed so many puns into one sentence before.
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    « Reply #5 on: April 26, 2010, 09:20:18 AM »

    Yeah, it seems to ac-cumulus a lot of charge...
    Ouch  ::)

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    « Reply #6 on: April 26, 2010, 09:34:09 AM »

    Yeah, it seems to ac-cumulus a lot of charge...

    I don't think I've ever packed so many puns into one sentence before.
    I bet using it will be a real "Shock" compared to using other systems
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    « Reply #7 on: April 26, 2010, 11:27:32 AM »
    BC_Programmer - I was having a joke about it, not being too serious, but why don't you look up Windows 8 before questioning if it's a cloud OS...

    I do know the basic of what cloud computering is and it's great for research. Taking idle processes from varies computers and using them together is a great idea, speeds up performance and works at a high controled level, but releasing it to everyone I believe would be easily tampered with. Think for a second about Botnet or my far fetch Skynet example, the worlds computers are someones finger tips, tell me someone wouldn't get power hungry. Application no longer on your own PC is a separate issue which was also mentioned for ages ago for cloud networking as a anti-priate protection feature that couldn't be messed with, secure so there would be no reverve enginnering, etc.

    Windows 8 is based on Cloud computering. Just look it up, it's writen all over it! Google 'Windows 8 Cloud' for example or read the news?

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    The post on the NDTV Profit news channel site clearly states that according to the sources within Microsoft,the next Operating System will be cloud based. Rajan Anandan, MD of Microsoft India also added that “All new products from here on will be offered over the cloud, as well as on-premise. That’s a core strategy that we have adopted now” 


    We have heard so much about Windows 7 and how Microsoft hopes to reconcile business users and consumers currently suffering with - or refusing to adopt - Vista.

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    Microsoft is working on Windows 8 - and it will be heavily based on the cloud, whatever Steve Ballmer may have said in recent announcements, says Nicholas Kolakowski

    Windows 8 could be with us as early as 2011 although Microsoft is officially claiming 2012 as more likely.

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    When Windows 8 finally hits the street in 2012, I’m betting (and this is total conjecture on my part) that it’ll be more cloud than desktop.

    Saying that Microsoft has leaked a lot of details about their interest in cloud OS for Windows 8.
    For those that already think they have Win8, that's a fake Windows 7 being customised, don't get it confused. It's not offical out yet.
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    Re: Cloud PC?
    « Reply #8 on: April 26, 2010, 12:32:47 PM »
    Windows 8 is based on Cloud computering. Just look it up, it's writen all over it! Google 'Windows 8 Cloud' for example or read the news?
     

    I did a google.

    almost all the links were people that were pretty much analyzing every single press release and knowledge base article for information on windows 8. none of them had a clue what they were talking about and were pulling "facts" out of their but and making assumptions.

    So I decided to try to restrict the search to people who actually knew what they were talking about (namely, I searched site:blogs.msdn.com "Windows 8".

    Here is one hit that really drives home the skewed nature of both intended features as well as release schedules:

    http://blogs.msdn.com/johan/archive/2008/04/01/did-you-know-windows-9-will-be-voice-controlled-only.aspx

    1st: he says windows 9 will be voice controlled <only>.

    2nd: he says "From what I've heard the planned release date is April 1st 2009, exactly one year from now."

    None of the official-looking sites about windows 8 were actually microsoft endorsed- this basiclaly means they are rumour mills that pull facts straight out of thin air.

    IF you can find a reference from a site that actually knows what they are talking about and aren't operating on conjecture (for example, an MS statement or MS employee actually saying it's going to be cloud-based) then I'll be more apt to believe you. but even then, windows 9 was supposed to be a completely voice controlled OS, and released a year ago.
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    « Reply #9 on: April 26, 2010, 01:01:27 PM »
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    almost all the links were people that were pretty much analyzing every single press release and knowledge base article for information on windows 8. none of them had a clue what they were talking about and were pulling "facts" out of their but and making assumptions.
    That's because you searched for "cloud computing" whereas azzaboi searched for "cloud computering". :P

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    « Reply #10 on: April 26, 2010, 01:12:09 PM »
    Any modern OS can do cloud computing...
    It actually has nothing to do with the OS itself...
    Do some homework.
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    « Reply #11 on: April 26, 2010, 01:16:53 PM »
    Although it isn't in any dictionary, I kind of like the word computering.

    Example: I'm computering now.

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    « Reply #12 on: April 26, 2010, 01:23:41 PM »
    Although it isn't in any dictionary, I kind of like the word computering.

    Example: I'm computering now.
    No no, you're "computerizing". Haven't you been teachered properly?
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    « Reply #13 on: April 26, 2010, 08:12:52 PM »
    Sry 4 me bad engish  ;D
    Computering, heh, I automatically new words all the time when touch typing quickly, need my very own dictionary.

    I was interested that news channels, yes also Microsoft Employees, online sources, and the underground net all point to Windows 8 being Cloud based. There's even a Microsoft research group dedicated to cloud computing. I guess that's a lot of assumptions?

    I guess my underground information leaks can be rather over the top at times? The Microsoft ex-employee who was over-excited and leak details a while back while developing it basically said it would make you rethink the current cr@p your using, Windows 7 will be rubbish compared to it, Vista is already binned, XP will be wiped. Codenamed: Windows.next.

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    Yes as you said, most information so far is speculation.

    So, Mayan prophecy of doom and destruction, or just another version of Windows? Stay tuned and we'll find.
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    « Reply #14 on: April 26, 2010, 09:54:29 PM »
    I was interested that news channels, yes also Microsoft Employees, online sources, and the underground net all point to Windows 8 being Cloud based. There's even a Microsoft research group dedicated to cloud computing. I guess that's a lot of assumptions?
    Yes. because none of the ones that might have the facts say it's cloud based. No MS employee, either.

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    I guess my underground information leaks can be rather over the top at times? The Microsoft ex-employee who was over-excited and leak details a while back while developing it basically said it would make you rethink the current cr@p your using, Windows 7 will be rubbish compared to it, Vista is already binned, XP will be wiped. Codenamed: Windows.next.
    He didn't say anything about cloud computing. you, and many other people, are simple assuming that is what he means, when it probably isn't. For all we know it could be the intended "Voice Control only" interface that was planned for windows 9 (which was planned for release in 2009). He could just mean that all the windows backgrounds will have velociraptors.


    And it wasn't by any means "underground". an "underground" information leak would be if somebody hacked into the MS servers and was able to acquire code and or spec sheets or design documents. Not something said on a MS employee's official MS blog.

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    So, Mayan prophecy of doom and destruction, or just another version of Windows? Stay tuned and we'll find.

    in 2098 people will think the world is going to end when they find an ancient DOS machine and it tells them that 2100 is an invalid date. FULL STORY here yeah, that's totally a reliable source. It must be true, it's on the internet. :P

    And windows 8 will either be the in-development Midori or the in-development Singularity products (the former beign a commercial re-implementation of the latter and therefore more likely.

    It's important to note that Wikipedia has articles on both- and not a single citation is from a reputable source, it's all blogs and news articles.

    From what I can see, I see no suggestion that it will be based, in whole or even on part, on a premise of "cloud computing" running a process across multiple PCs; however, we can already do that, and it's been done for years through the use of Distributed COM. Mostly, it seems to be the true "Vista done right" one of the original goals for Vista was to make it completely .NET based- this didn't pan out due to compatibility concerns and development time.

    Considering that Vista Promised this, and more, it's not unreasonable to make the logical leap that all of this will not be delivered as stated.

    it's a completely and utter waste of time to theorize or even research unreleased products; since all the information you can find consists entirely of half-truths based themselves on observations by reporters who  have very little true tech experience. It's a dilution of the true facts with both assumptions and outright lies to sell magazines/newspapers.
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