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Re: Changing from one Pentium II to another.
« Reply #30 on: May 14, 2010, 10:57:26 AM »
Here is the manual for the computer I have been talking about changing the P2 in. If I am reading correctly, and I am sure someone here will tell me different, I can make the change to the 450MHZ P2. I'll have to read over the manual again to comprehend it all, but that is my take on compatibility.   

Looks like it supports P-II processors up to 550Mhz (maybe faster, the diagram on page 3-4 labels some jumpers as "reserved for CPUs in the future".

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    Re: Changing from one Pentium II to another.
    « Reply #31 on: May 14, 2010, 04:19:13 PM »
    Looks like it supports P-II processors up to 550Mhz (maybe faster, the diagram on page 3-4 labels some jumpers as "reserved for CPUs in the future".




    Ok. I did a quick read of the manual again and if I read this correctly based on what P2 is used the jumpers need to be set for that processor. Am I understanding that right?

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    Re: Changing from one Pentium II to another.
    « Reply #32 on: May 14, 2010, 04:31:50 PM »
    Ok. I did a quick read of the manual again and if I read this correctly based on what P2 is used the jumpers need to be set for that processor. Am I understanding that right?
    Leave jumper in auto position for 100MHz FSB.  You can also control this in the BIOS, p.4-5 Bootup System Speed, toggles between 100 & 66.

    Since this one has the 440BX chipset and can be configured for either 66MHz or 100MHz.  Look for a PII with FSB (Front Side Bus) of 100MHz.  Multipliers are fixed, so 450MHz would be 4.5.  The fastest PII is 450MHz, they never made a 550.  They did make a PIII-400, that's where the overlap began.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_II
    Clockrate: 266 - 450 MHz
        * 66 MHz FSB : 266, 300, 333 MHz
        * 100 MHz FSB: 350, 400, 450 MHz

    It's possible that a PIII will function, too.  They came in both 100MHz & 133MHz
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_III
    Katmai:  100 MHz FSB: 450, 500, 550, 600 MHz
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slotket

    I'm trying to find the link that shows all the possibilities.
    Here it is:  http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Pentium-II/TYPE-Desktop%20Pentium%20II.html

    JP100 sets the bus speed.
    I suspect JP3 doesn't do anything, because bus multiplier is fixed inside the cpu.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front-side_bus
    « Last Edit: May 14, 2010, 05:04:04 PM by Computer_Commando »

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    Re: Changing from one Pentium II to another.
    « Reply #33 on: May 14, 2010, 05:51:51 PM »
    This might just work for you, it worked for him and for me:

    http://www.psychowire.com/mainboards/slocket.html

    http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Pentium-III/Intel-Pentium%20III%20650%20-%20RB80526PY650256%20%28BX80526F650256%20-%20BX80526F650256E%29.html

    I used it for a while until I got a 2nd one, different manuf & a 700 instead of 650.  I overclock my 700 to 933 by increasing the bus speed to 133 from 100.  I got an oversize fan for it and it's been stable for over 5 years.  My Asus supports overclocking, your mobo does not.

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      Re: Changing from one Pentium II to another.
      « Reply #34 on: May 14, 2010, 06:04:54 PM »
      Leave jumper in auto position for 100MHz FSB.  You can also control this in the BIOS, p.4-5 Bootup System Speed, toggles between 100 & 66.

      Since this one has the 440BX chipset and can be configured for either 66MHz or 100MHz.  Look for a PII with FSB (Front Side Bus) of 100MHz.  Multipliers are fixed, so 450MHz would be 4.5.  The fastest PII is 450MHz, they never made a 550.  They did make a PIII-400, that's where the overlap began.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_II
      Clockrate: 266 - 450 MHz
          * 66 MHz FSB : 266, 300, 333 MHz
          * 100 MHz FSB: 350, 400, 450 MHz

      It's possible that a PIII will function, too.  They came in both 100MHz & 133MHz
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_III
      Katmai:  100 MHz FSB: 450, 500, 550, 600 MHz
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slotket

      I'm trying to find the link that shows all the possibilities.
      Here it is:  http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Pentium-II/TYPE-Desktop%20Pentium%20II.html

      JP100 sets the bus speed.
      I suspect JP3 doesn't do anything, because bus multiplier is fixed inside the cpu.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front-side_bus



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        Re: Changing from one Pentium II to another.
        « Reply #35 on: May 14, 2010, 06:16:55 PM »
        This might just work for you, it worked for him and for me:

        http://www.psychowire.com/mainboards/slocket.html

        http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Pentium-III/Intel-Pentium%20III%20650%20-%20RB80526PY650256%20%28BX80526F650256%20-%20BX80526F650256E%29.html

        I used it for a while until I got a 2nd one, different manuf & a 700 instead of 650.  I overclock my 700 to 933 by increasing the bus speed to 133 from 100.  I got an oversize fan for it and it's been stable for over 5 years.  My Asus supports overclocking, your mobo does not.

        I read both links. The psychowire looks like something I could do, but won't because I can't justify buying anything else in case other changes need to be made, and the second link, well lets just say I don't need to spend that much. Remember, I am economic stressed at the moment, but have prospects in the fire. Besides, my daughter says she'll buy a new one next year if I can't do anything with the one I'm currently trying to upgrade.

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        Re: Changing from one Pentium II to another.
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          Re: Changing from one Pentium II to another.
          « Reply #38 on: May 15, 2010, 10:11:44 AM »
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            Re: Changing from one Pentium II to another.
            « Reply #39 on: May 17, 2010, 08:22:59 PM »
            I've done that on old dells without any problems. I'd just try it. If what you have is 300mhz you don't have a lot to lose. I've probably tossed 30 0r 40 of those things in the last year.