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    « on: October 22, 2016, 07:39:20 AM »
    have desktop w10 64 bit.in power settings i now do not have sleep settings the only one i can switch for a set time is the monitor.so i can shut down or hibernate.i use to be able to set it for say 20 mins and it would sleep which was fine for me but i cannot find this in power settings.

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    Re: sleep
    « Reply #1 on: October 22, 2016, 09:02:51 AM »
    Control Panel/Personalise...
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      « Reply #2 on: October 24, 2016, 08:00:45 AM »
      what is this?

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      « Reply #3 on: October 24, 2016, 08:05:13 AM »
      He is telling you how to get to the power settings.

      Right click your start button, lower left corner, and find the control panel. Look for the Hardware and Sound link. In it you will find the power options you want to change.
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        Re: sleep
        « Reply #4 on: October 25, 2016, 02:33:39 AM »
        Right click Start > Power options > Choose what the Power buttons do > Change settings that are currently unavailable > Under Shutdown settings - Sleep, tick "Show in power menu"

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          « Reply #5 on: October 27, 2016, 03:37:51 AM »
          thanks but again after that all the options i have are;turn on fast startup,hibernate or lock.no mention of sleep.

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            Re: sleep
            « Reply #6 on: October 27, 2016, 06:40:18 AM »
            I am not sure but I have read it somewhere that in Win 10 sleep function has been disabled. Can the senior members kindly throw some light on this issue? Just curious here. Thanks

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            Re: sleep
            « Reply #7 on: October 27, 2016, 09:54:17 AM »
            OK. Here is some additional information.
            From CH Archives:
            http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/s/sleep.htm
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            Sleep is a state of low-power inactivity commonly found on many computers and peripherals today. See our Stand by definition for further information and related links on this term.
            That then directs to:
            http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/s/standby.htm
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            Stand By

            Standby Alternatively referred to as sleep mode, Standby or Stand by is a mode the computer, monitor, or other device enters when idle for too long. This mode helps conserve power when a computer or computer device is not in use without having to sacrifice the time it would take to turn off and on the computer. When in Stand by, the computer or monitor has a solid or flashing amber (or other color) light, indicating that there is still power but the computer is in Standby mode.
            The main resewn for this is to conserve power and extend the life of computer components. Fro most users, the power savings are  not significant. Put another way, you don't really need it.  :)


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            Re: sleep
            « Reply #8 on: October 27, 2016, 01:35:28 PM »
            I am not sure but I have read it somewhere that in Win 10 sleep function has been disabled. Can the senior members kindly throw some light on this issue? Just curious here. Thanks
            That's not true.  To access sleep settings, go to Settings, System, and select Power & sleep.  That's where you can change or set sleep settings.

            Sleep settings can also be accessed via Control Panel. 

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            Re: sleep
            « Reply #9 on: October 27, 2016, 02:09:47 PM »
            The Sleep option isn't available if the Firmware cannot be accessed or doesn't support one of the S1/S2/S3 power states or if a driver doesn't support it.
            I was trying to dereference Null Pointers before it was cool.

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            Re: sleep
            « Reply #10 on: October 27, 2016, 03:26:19 PM »
            The Sleep option isn't available ... or if a driver doesn't support it.
            This is confirmed elsewhere. One of many links on this point:
            http://www.digitalcitizen.life/how-add-hibernate-power-options-available-windows-8-81
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            One of the changes related to power options in Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 is that the Hibernate option is not available by default on the Power menu. In order to use this feature, you have to activate it manually. That's why, in this tutorial, we will share step-by-step information on how to enable the Hibernate option in Windows 8.1 and Windows 10, so that it is displayed in the Power menu. Here's how it is done:
            Another issue is correct drivers for the Video and other things.

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            Re: sleep
            « Reply #11 on: October 27, 2016, 03:35:36 PM »
            This is confirmed elsewhere. One of many links on this point:
            http://www.digitalcitizen.life/how-add-hibernate-power-options-available-windows-8-81Another issue is correct drivers for the Video and other things.
            Don't know why you posted that link.  It's not about sleep mode, it's about hibernation.  It says hibernation is not, by default, present in Windows 10, but it can be enabled.  But, again, this discussion is not about hibernation, it's about sleep.

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            Re: sleep
            « Reply #12 on: October 27, 2016, 05:29:39 PM »
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            again, this discussion is not about hibernation, it's about sleep.
            Yes. It is common to use the terms as if equal.
            Bears hibernate.
            Dogs sleep.
            Computers do both. Sometimes. Maybe
            http://michaelbluejay.com/electricity/computers-sleep.html
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            Hibernate on Mac OS ("Safe Sleep")
                 Apple calls Hibernation "Safe Sleep"...
                 Apple doesn't see fit to let the user choose Safe Sleep on their computers.  Safe Sleep happens on laptops only if it's sleeping and the battery level drops too low, and even then only on PowerBooks made after October 2005.  You can override that behavior and get your Mac (laptop or desktop) to Safe Sleep immediately on demand with software like Deep Sleep, SmartSleep, or  SuspendNow (or see the hacks at Mac Simple Life or MacWorld).
            On CH "Sleep" has three meanings. Or more.
            The end result is that Sleep and Hibernation do almost the same thing. Sort of.  :)

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            Re: sleep
            « Reply #13 on: October 27, 2016, 05:36:19 PM »
            They are not equal at all, in my view.  Sleep is a low power state from which the computer can quickly be awoken.  Hibernation is a fully powered down state and startup from hibernation requires significantly more time than sleep; startup time may be similar to a normal startup (startup from normal shutdown). 

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            Re: sleep
            « Reply #14 on: October 27, 2016, 05:52:03 PM »
            The best option for Windows power saving features is off...
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            Re: sleep
            « Reply #15 on: October 27, 2016, 07:10:29 PM »
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            Yes. It is common to use the terms as if equal.
            Bears hibernate.
            Dogs sleep.
            The two are not equivalent in any way. They have completely different definitions both when it comes to Animals as well as when it comes to computers (As defined in the ACPI specification!). People getting confused between them doesn't suddenly make the terms interchangable.
            I was trying to dereference Null Pointers before it was cool.

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            Re: sleep
            « Reply #16 on: October 27, 2016, 09:31:39 PM »
            ACPI specification

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Configuration_and_Power_Interface
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            Intel, Microsoft and Toshiba originally developed the standard, while HP and Phoenix also participated later. In October 2013, the original developers of the ACPI standard agreed to transfer all assets to the UEFI Forum, in which all future development will take place.[3] The latest version of the standard is "Revision 6.1", which was published by the UEFI Forum in March 2016.[4]
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            G1, Sleeping: Divided into four states, S1 through S4:

                S1, Power on Suspend (POS): Processor caches are flushed, and the CPU(s) stops executing instructions. The power to the CPU(s) and RAM is maintained. Devices that do not indicate they must remain on may be powered off.
                S2: CPU powered off. Dirty cache is flushed to RAM.
                S3, commonly referred to as Standby, Sleep, or Suspend to RAM (STR): RAM remains powered.
                S4, Hibernation or Suspend to Disk: All content of the main memory is saved to non-volatile memory such as a hard drive, and the system is powered down.
            The above shows Hibernation to be a subset of Sleep. It is the fourth state of Sleep.
            Recent article from MS:
            https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/drivers/bringup/overview-of-windows-support-for-acpi-5-0
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            Note Windows supports a subset of functionality defined in the ACPI 5.0 specification. Windows does not have an explicit check against higher revisions of the firmware. Windows will support firmware that conforms to higher revisions of the ACPI specification if this firmware contains the necessary support, as described in this design guide.
            I did not see a reference thee to hibernation.
            But elsewhere there are links that say Win 10 has it maybe.
            http://www.techrepublic.com/article/investigating-sleep-states-in-windows-10/
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            Sleep states
            When Windows enters sleep mode, it may appear that the system simply goes into a low power state and remains that way. However, the process is a bit more complex. The system actually goes through several levels of Sleep. These levels, or more specifically, power states, are defined by the Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) specification. All told, the ACPI spec lists six states, which are numbered S0 through S5. We're mainly concerned about the Sleep states, but to keep everything in context, let's look at them all.
            So there are five levels of sleep?

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              Re: sleep
              « Reply #17 on: October 28, 2016, 06:54:01 AM »
              They are not equal at all, in my view.  Sleep is a low power state from which the computer can quickly be awoken.  Hibernation is a fully powered down state and startup from hibernation requires significantly more time than sleep; startup time may be similar to a normal startup (startup from normal shutdown).
              That looks a logical explanation. So does that mean that the sleep mode consumes less energy to that of the hibernation mode?

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              Re: sleep
              « Reply #18 on: October 28, 2016, 07:20:48 AM »
              That looks a logical explanation. So does that mean that the sleep mode consumes less energy to that of the hibernation mode?
              No, it's the opposite.  As I said in my previous post, hibernation is a fully powered down state.  In other words, you can unplug the computer, after it's gone into hibernation, and not lose any of your last work session (that you saved when the computer went into hibernation) when you restore power.   In contrast, sleep (sometimes also called Standby) mode does require some power.  If you unplug a computer in sleep mode, you will lose whatever apps/programs/windows you had open when it went to sleep.  For example, if you had a web browser open with 10 tabs open and a word processing program/app open when the computer went to sleep and you pulled the plug on it, you'd lose your work session; it would not be restored upon restoring power and starting your computer again.  But, with hibernation, you would not lose your work session; it would be restored the next time your turn on your computer.   

              Note: hibernation does momentarily require more power when it is saving a session, compared to going into to sleep mode.  Sleep mode occurs immediately when it is invoked.  Hibernation takes a minute or two or longer, depending on your hardware specs and system configuration, because it saves a complete image of your work session to the hard drive. 

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              Re: sleep
              « Reply #19 on: October 28, 2016, 07:31:42 AM »
              So there are five levels of sleep?
              But, computer users have control over sleep and hibernation.   That's two levels.  So, from a practical perspective, we have two levels, not five.