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    Buying new Windows 10
    « on: August 20, 2017, 08:34:42 AM »
    I have an old pc - Windows Vista - that I want to upgrade to Windows 10 Home version.  On checking on the net for the best genuine buy (which seems to be from MS & just under £100) all I seem to find is product keys (around £20 to £30), presumably for dodgy versions.  I'm not sure if these latter include the whole program or not - doesn't sound right to me.  The one seemingly genuine ad was for the Pro version at around £60, although I would have thought the Pro version would be more expensive than the Home.  Any advice and comments, particularly about the product keys, will be appreciated.

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    Re: Buying new Windows 10
    « Reply #1 on: August 20, 2017, 08:45:46 AM »
    I would only get it thru MS...call them.
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    Re: Buying new Windows 10
    « Reply #2 on: August 20, 2017, 08:49:18 AM »
    P.S. If you are registered at Uni you qualify for a decent discount...
    All you need to qualify is a Uni. valid email address.
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    Re: Buying new Windows 10
    « Reply #3 on: August 20, 2017, 10:02:47 AM »
    You could buy it at numerous legitimate sources, such as Staples, Office Max/Office Depot, Amazon.com, newegg.com, microcenter.com, etc.

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    Re: Buying new Windows 10
    « Reply #4 on: August 20, 2017, 10:15:16 AM »
    I assume he isn't in the States...
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    « Reply #5 on: August 20, 2017, 12:05:54 PM »
    I assume he isn't in the States...
    They have Staples, Office Depot, Newegg and Amazon outside the USA. Only Microcenter does not operate or ship here in the UK, where the OP is based.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0111YEBY4/ref=asc_df_B0111YEBY445188044?smid=A34T8FI0VLC5OJ&tag=hawk-future-21&linkCode=df0&creative=22242&creativeASIN=B0111YEBY4&ascsubtag=trd-943204951-21

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    « Last Edit: August 20, 2017, 01:05:36 PM by Salmon Trout »

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    Re: Buying new Windows 10
    « Reply #6 on: August 20, 2017, 03:21:29 PM »
    just taking a step back before you proceed, have you checked the Vista PC will handle Windows 10?

    it should, but it won't hurt to run the Windows 10 Compatibility utility to find out first.

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    Re: Buying new Windows 10
    « Reply #7 on: August 20, 2017, 04:50:28 PM »
    I doubt it will..
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    Re: Buying new Windows 10
    « Reply #8 on: August 21, 2017, 02:21:32 AM »
    My 2009 Dell laptop went from XP to Windows 10 with no problems.

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    Re: Buying new Windows 10
    « Reply #9 on: August 21, 2017, 05:06:35 AM »
    @silkie,
    what make and model is the PC?
    laptop or desktop?
    you can always check the manufactures website for driver for Windows 10 before you commit.
    also remember to check for 64bit drivers if you plan on upgrading to Win10 64bit.

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    Re: Buying new Windows 10
    « Reply #10 on: August 21, 2017, 04:57:32 PM »
    To put it into perspective, Microsoft set the price of Windows licences, not the retailers.  If a retailer is selling a licence significantly cheaper than other places, either they have decided to sell at a loss or are selling a fake/recycled licence.

    I generally buy from reputable PC component retailers - I see you're in the UK (same as me) - I tend to use places like Scan, Ebuyer, CCL, Novatech, Misco.etc.  Amazon is also technically okay although I'd only get something that comes entirely from Amazon, avoid marketplace or "fulfilled by Amazon" sellers.  As much as I love eBay, I'd never buy any sort of software from it.

    As patio mentioned, if you are in higher education, definitely check what you can get, my university offered "Dreamspark Premium" (now known as Microsoft Imagine) which offers an absolute tonne of different Microsoft software for free.  I got at least 5 Windows licences for various version that all upgraded to Windows 10 for free :P

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      Re: Buying new Windows 10
      « Reply #11 on: August 21, 2017, 05:57:23 PM »
      Thanks for replies.
      Just to answer some points made - I am in the UK and of course I know that genuine versions, with the license key to go with it, can be bought over the counter at lots of reputable stores and online. I will probably end up getting the genuine article.   I am confident that my pc will cope with the new os.  As an oap I am way out of the Uni student category, unfortunately...
      What I would like is some clarification of the license key use in the ads that I referred to - my understanding is that the code they give is needed to activate the program - but what program?  These license ads can't be offering the full Windows 10 program - are these codes needed to ok pirated versions obtained separately?  That would mean that these ads are really illegal?                       

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      Re: Buying new Windows 10
      « Reply #12 on: August 22, 2017, 12:00:55 AM »
      what ads?, can you provide the links?

      but generally, if they are displaying the license key in the ads, that is a big red flag.

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      Re: Buying new Windows 10
      « Reply #13 on: August 22, 2017, 12:36:23 AM »
      If you can provide a Model number for your PC, we could help look into compatibility. For the most part even in the worst case scenario, you can typically use Vista Drivers for hardware devices if necessary, there are some cases where a Vista computer might not work properly with Windows 10.

      *censored* to the issues regarding key reseller websites or ads that offer to sell you keys, you can find a lot of websites that claim to offer Windows 10 Keys for much cheaper than Microsoft sells them. You can also find a LOT of people who recommend the websites, and swear they are legitimate.

      They aren't.

      The reseller websites that do this are able to offer them for so cheap because they aren't legitimate. I've seen a few youtube channels who I otherwise expected to be reasonably competent stand by their claims that key resellers are legitimate, usually with some stupid anecdote "I bought a key a year ago and it still works" as if that proves it's legitimate. Don't believe them, because they have no idea what they are talking about.

      I don't know all the ways reseller sites obtain them, but it seems like one approach is to directly ask MSDN subscribers to generate keys, offering 5-10 dollars for each key. I know this because I have received (and ignored) these requests from a few Key resellers over the last few years.

      The reason that makes it not legitimate is that it violates the MSDN subscription terms. When such a violation is found, not only is the MSDN subscription terminated altogether but all generated product keys attached to that account are blacklisted.
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      Re: Buying new Windows 10
      « Reply #14 on: August 22, 2017, 03:55:09 AM »
      I believe that there have been cases where a Windows update has invalidated an apparently "valid" key obtained from one of those sites.