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Apple Served with Search Warrant - Again?
« on: November 20, 2017, 02:47:22 PM »
Does this sound like something we already heard?
Really,  this is a new instance of law enforcement asking Apple to unlock an iPhone to reveal photos, text and other data related to an investigation.

Here is a link:
https://www.cnet.com/news/apple-served-with-search-warrant-over-sutherland-springs-shooters-phone/

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The Texas Rangers found an iPhone SE near the body of mass shooter Devin Patrick Kelley. Now, they want Apple to hand over his iCloud data.

Apple's policy on requests for data is that it "will only provide content in response to a search warrant issued upon a showing of probable cause."

Does this matter to you?  ???

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Re: Apple Served with Search Warrant - Again?
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2017, 08:53:06 PM »
nope.
simple rule, if you don't want your private stuff looked at, don't keep it on a storage medium that's not under your direct control.

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Re: Apple Served with Search Warrant - Again?
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2017, 08:59:40 PM »
26 dead doesn't warrant probable cause ? ?...c'mon Geek.

What side are you on BTW ? ?
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Re: Apple Served with Search Warrant - Again?
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2017, 11:05:46 PM »
26 dead doesn't warrant probable cause ? ?...c'mon Geek.

What side are you on BTW ? ?
Do I even need  to answer? Never would I want to defend a murder
When there has been a mass killing, privacy becomes much less important than the need to uncover co-conspirators.

The curious thin g is that Apple thinks that giving the code up would ruin their reputation. The opposite is true. Protecting criminals would only weaken their reputation.

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Re: Apple Served with Search Warrant - Again?
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2017, 01:12:18 AM »
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Apple thinks that giving the code up would ruin their reputation.

There is no "Code" to give up here. None of the statements by Apple seem to suggest they don't want to cooperate. From the article itself, quoting an Apple spokesperson:

"Our team immediately reached out to the FBI after learning ... that investigators were trying to access a mobile phone. We offered assistance and said we would expedite our response to any legal process they send us."



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Re: Apple Served with Search Warrant - Again?
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2017, 05:08:54 AM »
I believe that all devices like this should have a skeleton key, but one that is unique for every single device to the point that we have the same phone and no 2 are alike so someone cant have a key for an entire model line etc, and that key be so complex that it cant be easily brute forced such as it would take 1000 years to try to brute force crack because you can only enter 1 try every 60 seconds etc, as well as the database that holds all these skeleton keys be heavily controlled and offline so that no hacker could leak out the keys for all these billions of devices, and that key only be able to be entered with actual physical access to said device and not remotely.

That's my feelings on this.


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    Re: Apple Served with Search Warrant - Again?
    « Reply #6 on: November 21, 2017, 06:47:57 AM »
    I don't think it's a matter of privacy vs. law enforcement. I think we can have both.

    Find a judge, get a warrant, and get the data you need.

    Leave data you don't need for some particular pre-specified, pre-warranted crime alone.

    Solve the named crime. (Possibly solve it faster because you're not burdened with extraneous data.)