programming lang

[Rob Pomeroy]

Well procedural is mostly do this do that blah blah blah.

OO is all about objects.  X does this, X does that, X relates to Y in this way, etc.

[unlovedwarrior]

oh kool thanks

[Neil]

Procedural is easier to understand what's going on... OO is easier to make "windows" applications, meaning it has buttons and scroll bars and things. But it's rarely used for games.

[unlovedwarrior]

i love this forum.... i learn new stuff daily

[johnchain]

Why is procedural seen as easier. Object Orientated programs are basically designed for simplicity.

Create and object->make it do something.

I think it is simpler in many cases. And I am not sure, but I think all OO languages are high level languages.

Learn C for linux and just in general. Good place to start and know how your computer works at the same time. They call it the "high low-level" language. Since it can touch parts of your hardware while being easy to read and understand.

[Rob Pomeroy]

while being easy to read and understand.

Can you read and understand this?  

#include <stdio.h>

main(t,_,a)
char *a;
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+1 ):0<t?main ( 2, 2 , "%s"):*a=='/'||main(0,main(-61,*a, "!ek;dc \
i@bK'(q)-[w]*%n+r3#l,{}:\nuwloca-O;m .vpbks,fxntdCeghiry"),a+1);}

Compile and run if you're curious.  You'll be surprised at the results.

[panboy]

Rob if your going to post Code , at least try to format it into Brain Usable Segments.

I could Go trough that and tell you what it would do.... But its a Mess why would you write it like that?

[ghostdog74]

it's for the purpose of code obfuscation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obfuscated_code

[panboy]

i kinda thought so.

But why would one use Obfuscated Code to show someone how complicated it is?

it doesn't show it's Real Difficulty

thats kinda like posting the contents of a compiled EXE and saying this is what OO looks like

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[Neil]

@John Chain, try making a chess game in OO. It's hard enough in procedural

They are both designed for different needs.

[Rob Pomeroy]

To be honest, I would have thought that a chess game would be the perfect candidate for OO code.  The elements of chess lend themselves readily to description as objects.  I would make an exception to my preference for procedural coding.

[ghostdog74]

i kinda thought so.
But why would one use Obfuscated Code to show someone how complicated it is?

like the wiki says, it has its uses.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obfuscated_code#Uses_for_obfuscation

[Neil]

How would OO be easier? What about the AI?

[Rob Pomeroy]

class brain {

  brain
  {
    iq = 100;
    inebriation = 1;
    confidence = 10;
  }

  drink
  {
    this.inebriation++;
    this.iq -= 10;
    this.confidence++;
  }

  think
  {
    if (this.inebriation > 3 || this.iq < 50)
    {
      result = rand(0, 2000000);
    }

    // etc...
  }

}

[unlovedwarrior]

im so confused