GPU nvidia quadro fx 4500 or 7900 'hacked' ... ?

[mike8787]

Hi there,
I have recently bought Nvidia quadro fx 4500, but my mate told me it is probably just geforce 7900 gtx 'hacked'.
He claims that you can do that by using Rivatuner and softQuadro to hack the bios.

However I'd like to determine which card do I have then? Sticker on the card says quadro also windows recognizes it as quadro, some more info for you what I could read from the card itself :
Numbers on the card:
what i think is serial: CN-0HF299-38561-65O-006O
Another numbers I could find:
900-50348-0100-000 G

Bios version: 5.70.02.17.A4
Rev A02

Mic: E-G012-05-375(B)


My mate he checked it with maya and he's telling me that when he was trying to do hardware rendering, the result was not as it should be. Exactly he was trying to add transparency on particles ( sprites ) they was not transparent in the render, not even in the viewport. Normal hardware rendering when he was trying to render objects using maya hardware rendering, results was apropriate to expectations.

Also I tried 3d mark 2005 on this card and result was: 7896 points.

So if you guys out there have any idea how I can determine which card is that please let me know.

Thanks a lot!!!

Mike

[GX1_Man]

Track should be along shortly.  

[mike8787]

Let us hope

I serched for some of his posts to the other people and I'm looking at the google as we speak...
That's just so he won't slaughter me  

[2k_dummy]

If you have debug on your computer. go to http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000258.htm and scroll down to method three. Read carefully and follow directions.

[mike8787]

Hi, I have tried that, but it is not showing up any useful info. Just a bunch of characters which not even randomly tells me what kind of gpu i have.

Anyway, thanks very much for the post.

Let's keep trying

[Track]

Hi there,
I have recently bought Nvidia quadro fx 4500, but my mate told me it is probably just geforce 7900 gtx 'hacked'.
He claims that you can do that by using Rivatuner and softQuadro to hack the bios.

However I'd like to determine which card do I have then? Sticker on the card says quadro also windows recognizes it as quadro, some more info for you what I could read from the card itself :
Numbers on the card:
what i think is serial: CN-0HF299-38561-65O-006O
Another numbers I could find:
900-50348-0100-000 G

Bios version: 5.70.02.17.A4
Rev A02

Mic: E-G012-05-375(B)


My mate he checked it with maya and he's telling me that when he was trying to do hardware rendering, the result was not as it should be. Exactly he was trying to add transparency on particles ( sprites ) they was not transparent in the render, not even in the viewport. Normal hardware rendering when he was trying to render objects using maya hardware rendering, results was apropriate to expectations.

Also I tried 3d mark 2005 on this card and result was: 7896 points.

So if you guys out there have any idea how I can determine which card is that please let me know.

Thanks a lot!!!

Mike

Yes, its possible that ur Quadro 4500 is a BIOS hacked 7800 GTX. The 7800 GTX and Quadro 4500 have the same G70 core. The 7900 GTX has the G71, wich is built on the 90nm process and thus can overclock higher than the G70 wich is built on the 110nm process.

The thing u have to understand is this - the 7800 GTX and the Quadro 4500 are the SAME EXACT card.
They have the same core and near the same clock speeds, the only thing that is different are the names of the cards - the way that the PC sees them.

If u have a 7800 GTX u can hack it's BIOS (wich is the thing that tells the card how to operate), esentially making it a Quadro 4500. Since u changed the BIOS, u changed the card and the PC will now see the once 7800 GTX, as a Quadro 4500.

So u may ask, what is the difference? Simple put, the drivers.
Why do u think that the Quadro 4500 costs a few times more than the 7800 GTX when they have the same specs? It is because the drivers for the Quadro series are better than the drivers for the Geforce series (for certain 3D applications, not games). Esencially, ur paying for the drivers, when u buy a Quadro (the software, not the hardware).

So this means that if u use the Quadro drivers on the Quadro 4500 (or the 7800 GTX after it has been hacked) it should work the same as any other Quadro 4500, no matter if it USED to be a 7800 GTX, because its not anymore.

*Note: If u really care abt knowing wether ur card used to be a 7800 GTX or not, check the ammount of memory and the clock speeds. If it has 256MB of RAM, it used to be a 7800 GTX 256MB. If it has a core clock of 550Mhz, it used to be a 7800 GTX 512MB.
If it has 512MB of RAM and a 450Mhz core, it has always been a Quadro 4500.

[mike8787]

well,well, well
THANKS a lot for reply, I feel much more better now
I was really worried that card may be underperforming in some more demanding tasks.

Someone told me that if I would want to make SLI from one true and one 'false' fx 4500 it would damage the card and maybe even motherboard, do you know if this is true?

aslo I was unable to find out what is my core speed , and I have 512mb version
i have tried 3d mark, sisoft sandra, and usual properties in winxp, i'm trying google now but not too much luck, any advice??

Thanks a lot mate,
Mike

[mike8787]

ok so I found it in 3d mark on the second try....
its 512 and core speed is showing:
Description   NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500    
Manufacturer   NVIDIA    
Total Local Video Memory   512 MB      
Total Local Texture Memory   512 MB      
Total AGP Memory   256 MB      
Driver File   nv4_disp.dll    
Driver Version   9.1.3.6    
Driver Date   7-12-2006    
Driver WHQL Certified   true    
Max Texture Width   4096 px    
Max Texture Height   4096 px    
 Max User Clipping Planes   6      
Max Active Hardware Lights   8      
Max Texture Blending Stages   8      
Fixed Function Textures In Single Pass   8      
Vertex Shader Version   3.0    
Pixel Shader Version   3.0    
Max Vertex Blend Matrices   0      
Max Texture Coordinates   8      
VGA Memory Clock   1.1 GHz      
VGA Core Clock   468.0 MHz    

so it should be true quadro right?

Mike

[Track]

ok so I found it in 3d mark on the second try....
its 512 and core speed is showing:
Description   NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500    
Manufacturer   NVIDIA    
Total Local Video Memory   512 MB      
Total Local Texture Memory   512 MB      
Total AGP Memory   256 MB      
Driver File   nv4_disp.dll    
Driver Version   9.1.3.6    
Driver Date   7-12-2006    
Driver WHQL Certified   true    
Max Texture Width   4096 px    
Max Texture Height   4096 px    
 Max User Clipping Planes   6      
Max Active Hardware Lights   8      
Max Texture Blending Stages   8      
Fixed Function Textures In Single Pass   8      
Vertex Shader Version   3.0    
Pixel Shader Version   3.0    
Max Vertex Blend Matrices   0      
Max Texture Coordinates   8      
VGA Memory Clock   1.1 GHz      
VGA Core Clock   468.0 MHz    

so it should be true quadro right?

Mike
 

It sure is.  

[mike8787]

thanks for your help