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Deny

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Video Card help
« on: June 26, 2007, 03:21:32 PM »
Hello I have a hp pavilion a350e with a mother board ASUS A7N8X-LA and a psu of 400 watts. I recently bought a Leadtek Winfast A400 Geforce 6800 gt AGP and put it my motherboard. I connected the everything and the power to video card also but there seem to be no signal from the moniter to the video card. The fan is working on the video card but nothing comes out. What could be the problem?

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    Re: Video Card help
    « Reply #1 on: June 26, 2007, 05:16:16 PM »
    Did you uninstall your old graphics drivers? If you didn't then your computer would think that it is still using the old graphics card instead of the newer one.

    Deny

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    Re: Video Card help
    « Reply #2 on: June 26, 2007, 10:09:20 PM »
    Yeap i did uninstall it from the add remove programs

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      Re: Video Card help
      « Reply #3 on: June 26, 2007, 10:23:01 PM »
      Hello I have a hp pavilion a350e with a mother board ASUS A7N8X-LA and a psu of 400 watts. I recently bought a Leadtek Winfast A400 Geforce 6800 gt AGP and put it my motherboard. I connected the everything and the power to video card also but there seem to be no signal from the moniter to the video card. The fan is working on the video card but nothing comes out. What could be the problem?
      A BIOS setting may be forcing output on the onboard video.
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      XFX 8600GT XXX Edition
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      Seagate Barracuda 320gB SATA
      Raidmax Ninja 918 (520W ATXV2.0 PSU)
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      Deny

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      Re: Video Card help
      « Reply #4 on: June 27, 2007, 11:53:14 PM »
      My mother board doesn't have a onboard video card how can this be?

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      Re: Video Card help
      « Reply #5 on: June 28, 2007, 04:13:05 PM »
      According to This  it does...
      " Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist should have his head examined. "

      Deny

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      Re: Video Card help
      « Reply #6 on: June 28, 2007, 11:44:47 PM »
      hmm so how do i disable it? do i have to go into the bios setup or from windows  ???

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        Re: Video Card help
        « Reply #7 on: June 29, 2007, 01:44:53 AM »
        disable the onboard in the bios 1st,then  right underneath that  enable the pci  slot for video   that  should do it.....

        Revised *
         Disable the onboard video in BIOS.
        Set primary video to AGP in BIOS.       " I hope I'm not way off here"   :-[

         These steps apply to most newer BIOSes.

        With monitor connected to on-board video:

        1. Enter ROM BIOS setup.

        2. Go to Integrated Peripherals

        3. Change Initiate Display First to AGP instead of PCI or Onboard.

        4. Reboot with monitor connected to AGP card



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        Re: Video Card help
        « Reply #8 on: June 29, 2007, 01:52:59 AM »
        enable the pci slot for video

        But it's an AGP video card, not PCI


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          Re: Video Card help
          « Reply #9 on: June 29, 2007, 01:56:03 AM »
          i just woke up, don't you still need to enable the slot ??  ut ohhhh 

          PLEASE  correct my post if I screwed this up *  thanks
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          Re: Video Card help
          « Reply #10 on: June 29, 2007, 02:50:54 AM »
          i just woke up, don't you still need to enable the slot ??  ut ohhhh 

          I think you do actually

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            Re: Video Card help
            « Reply #11 on: June 29, 2007, 02:58:43 AM »
            honestly, I don't know much on those  AGP's <<  I've only had the PCI-E myself,  I kinda had it screwed up....  then  googled  some more relevant  agp-info  and revised it......

            thanks for waking me up*
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            Re: Video Card help
            « Reply #12 on: June 29, 2007, 03:01:03 AM »
            wake up and smell the coffee  :)


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              Re: Video Card help
              « Reply #13 on: June 29, 2007, 03:12:41 AM »
              Just woke up.

              HD system root file(Kernel) file missing.
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              Re: Video Card help
              « Reply #14 on: June 29, 2007, 03:30:16 AM »
              what is the exact message you are getting? Does this mean you can see stuff on the monitor?

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                Re: Video Card help
                « Reply #15 on: June 29, 2007, 03:37:14 AM »
                Dont be so nasty Dude. Msg that my HD is not load OS at all.
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                Re: Video Card help
                « Reply #16 on: June 29, 2007, 03:44:37 AM »
                Dont be so nasty Dude. Msg that my HD is not load OS at all.

                This is a thread about Deny's video card. (See title "Video Card Help".) It is the wrong place for your question. It is not a chat room. You should not add your question to somebody elses thread. You should start a new one. Then you might get some answers.


                Deny

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                Re: Video Card help
                « Reply #17 on: July 02, 2007, 03:15:34 AM »
                Alright let me update my story I recently bought a geforce 6800 gt from ebay and bought a psu of 350 watts so it said in the advertisement but when i recieved it said 400 max power output on the label. So i go ahead and unscrew my old 250 watt psu and put this new one in and i put the video card in and there is no signal or nothing in my moniter. I did uninstall all the drivers and in the bios setup i put it to agp for the video card and there is no on-board video i search and nothing. Well so after using a little i smelled something burning. When i feel my cpu its very hot which is unusual. Could it be that the psu is damaged or its giving to much energy to my cpu and not enought to the video card? Oh and the on-board lan got screwed or burned... What do you guys think is the problem?

                contrex

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                Re: Video Card help
                « Reply #18 on: July 02, 2007, 03:32:29 AM »
                If you were in England I'd say that bonfire night came early this year...  :(

                Was the cpu fan going round after the new psu was installed and you powered up?

                How did you see the bios setup screen if there was no signal on your monitor?

                Deny

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                Re: Video Card help
                « Reply #19 on: July 02, 2007, 03:41:00 AM »
                Yeah the fan was on and still it was burning hot. I put back my geforce fx 5600 agp back and my 250 watts psu and the cpu is cool again and the no burning smell ^^. Could it be possible that the psu is to strong for my mother board?

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                Re: Video Card help
                « Reply #20 on: July 02, 2007, 03:45:15 AM »
                I put back my geforce fx 5600 agp back as it was in the first place could it be possible that the psu is to strong for my mother board?

                No, a 400 watt psu is better than a 300w psu. The motherboard only takes as much power as it needs. Did you check that all the plugs and connectors are properly inserted?

                I do know that with Dell PSUs and motherboards, if you don't use a genuine Dell PSU you will fry the board, but I didn't think HP was like that.

                Is the PC completely dead now?


                Deny

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                Re: Video Card help
                « Reply #21 on: July 02, 2007, 03:50:01 AM »
                Yeah the fan was on and still it was burning hot. I put back my geforce fx 5600 agp back and my 250 watts psu and the cpu is cool again and the no burning smell ^^.(last replay modified it)
                And yeah i did connected all the connectors and used one seperate for the video card.
                Hmm nop my cpu is good and running again also I don't know if you heard about the hp bios update 3.12 that screws the bios settings and also your computer... Well I thought that updating the bios would help with the new video card but it just made it worst and it didn't want to turn on. Well so i ordered a new bios chip and today its working but the on-board Lan got screwed. I am thinking in trying the new video card with my 250 watts psu even though the video card needs 300 watts.

                contrex

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                Re: Video Card help
                « Reply #22 on: July 02, 2007, 03:52:53 AM »
                maybe I should change what I said. A good 400 W psu is better than a good 300 W psu. A cheap 400W psu is worse than a good 300W psu. What brands are your new and old psus?

                Deny

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                Re: Video Card help
                « Reply #23 on: July 02, 2007, 03:55:12 AM »
                the 400 w psu is a power king brand and it was about $20 the old one which is 250 watts came with the computer hp so i am guessing its from the company hp

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                Re: Video Card help
                « Reply #24 on: July 02, 2007, 04:01:12 AM »
                the 400 w psu is a power king brand and it was about $20 the old one which is 250 watts came with the computer hp so i am guessing its from the company hp

                if that's 20 US dollars, then that PSU is what I would call an el-cheapo model. Quality ones cost upwards of $50.  Cheap PSUs are a waste of money. I am not BSing you here.

                Deny

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                Re: Video Card help
                « Reply #25 on: July 02, 2007, 04:09:04 AM »
                Hmm so it could be that the cheap psu wasn't supplying electricity to the video card... and it was kinda burning my cpu... Hmm I spended about $200 usd so far and don't want to buy another psu and find out it wasn't the psu the problem  :(... Do you think maybe the mother board is not compatible with the video card or the the agp slot isn't compatible or something else that could be the problem?

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                Re: Video Card help
                « Reply #26 on: July 02, 2007, 04:24:58 AM »
                Well I think the 6800 GT needs a 1.5v AGP slot, and the Asus A7N8X-LA board has those according to a Google search, in fact the makers say "only use 1.5v AGP cards on this board" so i don't think that would be the problem.

                You did go in the BIOS and disable the on board video?



                 

                Deny

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                Re: Video Card help
                « Reply #27 on: July 02, 2007, 04:39:41 AM »
                I went to bios settings but didn't find anything about disabling a on-board video card and on the back of the cpu there is no onboard video card to connect to the moniter. On product specifications it says :
                Onboard graphics memory - None





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                Re: Video Card help
                « Reply #28 on: July 02, 2007, 04:50:10 AM »
                The back of your motherboard doesn't look like this?

                HP and Compaq Desktop PCs -  Motherboard Specifications, A7N8X-LA

                at

                http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c00006476&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=&product=372031




                1 - Mouse
                2 - Parallel
                3 - IEEE 1394 FireWire
                4 - Local Area Network
                5 - Line-In
                6 - Line-Out
                7 - Microphone
                8 - USB 2.0
                9 - VGA
                10 - Serial
                11 - Keyboard

                Puzzlingly, if you have no onboard video, here is an HP page telling how to add an add-on card to the Pavilion a350e and other HP PCs with the Intel 810 or 815 onboard video chipset.

                http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=buh06273&lc=en&cc=ca&product=384327&dlc=en

                I quote:

                Quote
                Before beginning to install a video card, reinstall the i810 and i815 video drivers and make sure they function. This will ensure that all i810 and i815 video driver files can be located, removed, and disabled, before installation of the new video card drivers is performed.

                Dam1an

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                Re: Video Card help
                « Reply #29 on: July 02, 2007, 05:03:20 AM »
                Do one thing for me.  Look and see if there's a switch on the back of your new PSU to change the voltage.  A lot of PSU's have a manual switch in the back that converts it to either 110 or 223 volts.  If it's set to 220 and you have it plugged into 110 you won't get much more than a power light and rarely the bios, but nothing more.  Other way around and you get this nice popping sound and some smoke.

                Also, if possible, try using the new components in a different rig and see what happens.  I'm a big advocate of hot-swapping parts to known good setups to troubleshoot.

                If its the same mobo and you had a video card in the AGP slot before you put the new one in, it's not the onboard video setting in the bios.  Was the old video card maybe a PCI slot card?

                Deny

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                Re: Video Card help
                « Reply #30 on: July 02, 2007, 01:15:13 PM »
                Maybe other similiar mother boards have a on-board video card but this one had a black plastic covering the vga onboard plug in




                And Dam1an the new psu was on 115v.
                When i first bought the computer it had a agp geforce fx 5600 install in it.

                Deny

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                Re: Video Card help
                « Reply #31 on: July 02, 2007, 03:04:38 PM »
                I've tried the new video card with the old 250 watts psu but it doesn't have enough power for the mobo and the new video card which requires 300 watts... hmm maybe the video card is not working...

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                Re: Video Card help
                « Reply #32 on: July 02, 2007, 03:17:14 PM »
                Sounds like a video card problem to me, but I'd try placing it in a buddy's computer to test it first if I were you.  Video cards are expensive :P  Wanna be sure.

                Deny

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                Re: Video Card help
                « Reply #33 on: July 02, 2007, 04:15:18 PM »
                hmmmm i am getting kinda tired of all this problems  >:( I should get a new comp or something. I checked the bios settings and also notice that the cpu temp was at 60 C/138 F which is very hot... its a 4 year old pc... hmm should i just get a pci-express mobo and forget this whole thing

                Deny

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                Re: Video Card help
                « Reply #34 on: July 02, 2007, 05:07:58 PM »
                Hmm I have some good news  :) I plug the new video card geforce 6800 gt in a dell dimension 8100 with a psu 330 watts and it worked! So the video card is not the problem... The only problem is that the dell dimension has a 4x agp slot which is not good cuase i want 8x. I was planning in removing the psu of the dell dimension and putting it in my hp pavilion a350e. You guys think this might damage something or it won't work ^^?
                « Last Edit: July 02, 2007, 05:20:39 PM by Deny »

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                Re: Video Card help
                « Reply #35 on: July 03, 2007, 12:48:29 AM »
                Sounds like a video card problem to me, but I'd try placing it in a buddy's computer to test it first if I were you.  Video cards are expensive :P  Wanna be sure.

                What about the "buddy's" computer? Motherboards are expensive too!!!!


                contrex

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                Re: Video Card help
                « Reply #36 on: July 03, 2007, 12:55:57 AM »
                I was planning in removing the psu of the dell dimension and putting it in my hp pavilion a350e. You guys think this might damage something or it won't work ^^?


                It's good for you that you asked!!! NEVER, never, never, never mix Dell power supplies and (any) other maker's motherboards!!! Or the other way around - NEVER mix Dell motherboards with ordinary, standard power supplies. In either of these scenarios you will destroy the hardware and the power supply.

                Dell deliberately wire up their PSUs and motherboards differently from everyone else, but they use standard power connectors, and they don't warn you. The first you'll know is when you press the power button and nothing happens except a burning smell.


                Deny

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                Re: Video Card help
                « Reply #37 on: July 03, 2007, 01:12:33 PM »
                I came to a the conclusion that the cheap psu i bought is not cutting it even though it says 400W output... I ordered a antec 350 watts basiq and will try it with that psu. If that doesn't work I will have to put burn my pc

                Deny

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                Re: Video Card help
                « Reply #38 on: July 10, 2007, 01:26:17 PM »
                Hmm so I got the Antec psu 350 watts and installed in my cpu. It worked fine so i uninstalled my old video card and plug in the geforce 6800 gt and still no signal to the moniter. I think the video card is not compatible to my mother board or what else could it be...?

                contrex

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                Re: Video Card help
                « Reply #39 on: July 10, 2007, 01:31:27 PM »
                Hmm so I got the Antec psu 350 watts and installed in my cpu. It worked fine so i uninstalled my old video card and plug in the geforce 6800 gt and still no signal to the moniter. I think the video card is not compatible to my mother board or what else could it be...?

                some video cards have a 4 pin 12 volt connector for a special power lead which they need because of the power consumption. Is your card one of these? Has the PSU got such a lead?

                Deny

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                Re: Video Card help
                « Reply #40 on: July 10, 2007, 01:37:49 PM »
                yeap it does i've tried connecting it with a 4-pin power connectore directly from the psu and still no response  :(

                contrex

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                Re: Video Card help
                « Reply #41 on: July 10, 2007, 01:43:53 PM »
                6800 gt does not work with all mobo chipsets. Google for "6800 gt incompatibility"

                Deny

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                Re: Video Card help
                « Reply #42 on: July 10, 2007, 02:06:19 PM »
                ahh that sucks i spended like $200 + to upgrade this pc  i guess changing the mobo is not worth it. I think i would be better off buying a new pc...

                Deny

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                Re: Video Card help
                « Reply #43 on: July 10, 2007, 02:44:34 PM »
                Hmmm thinking about it i think i am going to buy a new barebone system but i've got no idea which one or how to look for one that will be compatible with my old hardware