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    CRT Monitor Install
    « on: November 29, 2008, 09:44:00 AM »
    I've been given a PC that's supposed to have Win XP.  I connected a monitor to it and turn the PC on.  The only thing on the monitor screen is lines.  My guess is that I need to install a driver for the monitor but how could I do that when I can't see if Win XP is working or not?  All this is new to me.  I never had problems with monitors before.  How can you help me?     ???  Thanks!

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    Re: CRT Monitor Install
    « Reply #1 on: November 29, 2008, 10:32:23 AM »
    Most monitors require no drivers so i would try another one to test...
    It's hard to say what exactly is installed on that machine as it was just given to you.
    They may have simply wiped everything off it before passing it on.
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      « Reply #2 on: December 08, 2008, 09:17:16 AM »
      I thank you for your inputs and pardon the delay.  I was waiting to try a different monitor and, sure enough, this other one worked fine.

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      Re: CRT Monitor Install
      « Reply #3 on: December 08, 2008, 09:18:21 AM »
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        « Reply #4 on: December 08, 2008, 10:07:36 AM »
        the problem is probably the xp installation.  when you install xp its only setup up to see the monitor you attached to it.  If your using a LCD in replace of a CRT your going to have some issues.  XP sense hardware changes keep that in mind.
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        Re: CRT Monitor Install
        « Reply #5 on: December 08, 2008, 01:47:57 PM »
        the problem is probably the xp installation.  when you install xp its only setup up to see the monitor you attached to it.  If your using a LCD in replace of a CRT your going to have some issues.  XP sense hardware changes keep that in mind.


        Totally false.

        the only thing the monitor "drivers" do is specify maximum screen resolutions and refresh rates; and DPMS makes the drivers obsolete anyway because that information can be discovered dynamically.

        If you were to switch output from D-SUB to DVI, then there might be issues.
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          « Reply #6 on: December 09, 2008, 03:47:19 PM »
          well I had this problem for a while I was using a crt then I moved to an lcd worked for a while then nothing showed.
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          Re: CRT Monitor Install
          « Reply #7 on: December 09, 2008, 04:19:30 PM »
          well I had this problem for a while I was using a crt then I moved to an lcd worked for a while then nothing showed.

          it stopped working likely with a "signal out of range" or something similar when windows booted because the resolution was, you know, out of range.

          This type of problem wouldn't occur at the POST, however.
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            « Reply #8 on: December 09, 2008, 04:25:28 PM »
            no like it froze up when I was using it then it wouldnt show anything.
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            Re: CRT Monitor Install
            « Reply #9 on: December 09, 2008, 10:15:01 PM »
            Squall.....I don't know why that might of happened......but changing from CRT to LCD is the exact same as changing mouses or keyboards........Except, without any driver install.

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              « Reply #10 on: December 10, 2008, 08:32:27 AM »
              i cant explain it ether like last night but thats todally differnt.  I was running xp I thought it looked for changes in hardware?
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              Re: CRT Monitor Install
              « Reply #11 on: December 10, 2008, 08:46:17 AM »
              Are you asking me a question? ???

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                « Reply #12 on: December 11, 2008, 02:30:23 PM »
                in a certain sense to it
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                Re: CRT Monitor Install
                « Reply #13 on: December 11, 2008, 07:06:14 PM »
                Well......either you're asking me about your hardware, or I just don't fully understand.

                Anyways, does it work at all?

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                  « Reply #14 on: December 11, 2008, 07:25:19 PM »
                  Not sure I have it connected to a diffenrt one at the time
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                  Re: CRT Monitor Install
                  « Reply #15 on: December 11, 2008, 07:39:24 PM »
                  Interesting.......

                  If it works on another computer, but not on your computer, I don't know what to make of it.
                  My point is switching to a different type of monitor is no different than changing keyboards.

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                    « Reply #16 on: December 11, 2008, 07:40:38 PM »
                    well i also did a reformat too when I connected a lcd
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                    Re: CRT Monitor Install
                    « Reply #17 on: December 11, 2008, 08:08:26 PM »
                    I have switched/replaced many monitors and have never used a driver.  In fact, I've never even seen a monitor driver as far as I can recall.
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                      « Reply #18 on: December 11, 2008, 08:10:55 PM »
                      I never ether but I all ways made sure to do a repair when I changed them
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                      Re: CRT Monitor Install
                      « Reply #19 on: December 11, 2008, 08:18:05 PM »
                      I have switched/replaced many monitors and have never used a driver.  In fact, I've never even seen a monitor driver as far as I can recall.

                      what the manufacturers call a monitor "driver" is just a INF file that specifies the resolution/refresh rates and so forth the monitor can accept (as well as showing the proper name in device manager).

                      basically the whole idea of monitor drivers was overriden by display Data technology(DDC) where the display reports it's specifications to the video card; and, assuming the video card supports DDC (everything after about 1990-ish has the basic version) windows will use that information to limit the settings provided by the display settings page; well, if "only show modes my monitor supports" or whatever the checkbox is is selected.


                      On the other hand; windows only examines the DDC entries when it first boots (AFAIK); so changing monitors while windows is running will leave the new plugged in monitor running at the limitations of the previous one, at least until windows is restarted.
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                        « Reply #20 on: December 11, 2008, 08:20:13 PM »
                        yes however I did a cold boot since I had to take it with me at the time.
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                        Re: CRT Monitor Install
                        « Reply #21 on: December 12, 2008, 08:19:34 AM »
                        For something that was resolved in reply #3 this thread has taken on a life of it's own.... ::)
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                        « Reply #22 on: December 12, 2008, 01:47:28 PM »
                        Considering certain parties who shall go unnamed...are you surprised?
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                        « Reply #23 on: December 12, 2008, 09:56:20 PM »
                        Not at all...i'm just an observer.
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                        Re: CRT Monitor Install
                        « Reply #24 on: December 13, 2008, 03:27:26 AM »
                        Thanks for this useless discussion Squall....

                        I never ether but I all ways made sure to do a repair when I changed them
                        You repair install your Operating System whenever you change Monitors?

                        I think I have just found the source of all your problems.

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                        « Reply #25 on: December 13, 2008, 09:55:12 AM »


                        Repair install should apparently be done in the following circumstances:

                        1. Monitor change
                        2. keyboard change
                        3. Mouse change
                        4. Diaper change
                        5. counting change

                        ...
                        I was trying to dereference Null Pointers before it was cool.

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                        « Reply #26 on: December 13, 2008, 12:08:49 PM »
                        That's good to know...
                        I never realised it needed to be done when counting change.
                        You learn something new everyday.

                        Thanx BC !
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                        « Reply #27 on: December 13, 2008, 03:20:20 PM »
                        the list goes on for quite some time. It also covers speaker changes and computer room light-bulb changes. However changes to clothes only require a repair install when performed in the visual range of the computers USB ports (it often traumatizes the poor machine beyond repair). It doesn't apply if you change brands of toothpaste or turn over a new leaf.
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                        « Reply #28 on: December 13, 2008, 06:22:26 PM »
                        It doesn't apply if you change brands of toothpaste or turn over a new leaf.
                        Ah, well that saves me some time.

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                        « Reply #29 on: December 13, 2008, 06:55:28 PM »
                        the list goes on for quite some time. It also covers speaker changes and computer room light-bulb changes. However changes to clothes only require a repair install when performed in the visual range of the computers USB ports (it often traumatizes the poor machine beyond repair). It doesn't apply if you change brands of toothpaste or turn over a new leaf.
                        Didn't you leave one choice out ? ?
                        Vote for Obama = voye for change....
                        Should i re-install ? ?
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                        « Reply #30 on: December 13, 2008, 07:04:39 PM »
                        that's a good question, and it really depends on the ratio of seniors in your neighborhood. The more there are, the more likely your living near a motor home park or similar establishment; following that line of thought we can assume you could have a old folk infestation in the rafters and walls. They'd chew away at the wood, but they haven't any teeth, so you'll just hear soft moans from your walls.

                        when your sleeping, the old folks will come out and use your computer for on-line shopping and disclose their credit card number for all to see. However, they rely heavily on cookies to remember passwords(heck they rely on relatives to remember their last name sometimes); thus the requirement for a repair install and deleting of the cookies. without access to online shopping, the seniors will become confused, and fixated on your tool shed. Care should be taken to sharpen your tools in the shed, as they often start fighting each other randomly. This helps you financially since you could sell tickets to your "Senior Scuffle" games, which only lasts until the police arrive and break up the party, at which point you can claim ignorance on the whole issue.
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                          « Reply #31 on: December 17, 2008, 03:50:51 PM »
                          this is before I started doing this on a usual basis.
                          Windows 7 RC Tester.  Working on it.  Your monitor says etchasketch on the side!

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                          « Reply #32 on: December 17, 2008, 07:33:13 PM »
                          "Woom".....
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                          « Reply #33 on: December 18, 2008, 11:20:43 AM »
                          that's a good question, and it really depends on the ratio of seniors in your neighborhood. The more there are, the more likely your living near a motor home park or similar establishment; following that line of thought we can assume you could have a old folk infestation in the rafters and walls. They'd chew away at the wood, but they haven't any teeth, so you'll just hear soft moans from your walls.

                          when your sleeping, the old folks will come out and use your computer for on-line shopping and disclose their credit card number for all to see. However, they rely heavily on cookies to remember passwords(heck they rely on relatives to remember their last name sometimes); thus the requirement for a repair install and deleting of the cookies. without access to online shopping, the seniors will become confused, and fixated on your tool shed. Care should be taken to sharpen your tools in the shed, as they often start fighting each other randomly. This helps you financially since you could sell tickets to your "Senior Scuffle" games, which only lasts until the police arrive and break up the party, at which point you can claim ignorance on the whole issue.

                          quoted for humour. I bolded my favourite part.

                          Sometimes; I can't believe I thought of this stuff...


                          And now, for another gut buster...

                          this is before I started doing this on a usual basis.

                          Ahhh, you must mean before you started going out every night dropping a quarter in the middle of every crosswalk you pass. I understand your pain; I used to do it once in a while, but eventually the urge got so strong, I wasn't just dropping them on crosswalks, I was also dropping them when purposely jaywalking, or even in the middle of parking lots, or near children.

                          my advice? Get help. I did, and look at me now! Why, I'm only dropping nickels at crosswalks, at it feels great to know I've cut back to 20% of my usual coin dropping expenses. Now I can afford shoes- Unfortunately though, I'm worried that with shoes I might go out more often, cross more streets and be more tempted to resume my usual quarter dropping  behaviour. Which is why I think I'll leave my change purse at home...

                          I was trying to dereference Null Pointers before it was cool.

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                          « Reply #34 on: December 18, 2008, 01:24:37 PM »
                          Get cheap flip-flops...especially if you are in a cold climate....
                          This drastically reduced my spur of the moment meanderings here.

                          Also switch currencies ....some foreign coins aren't even worth bending over to pick up which in the long run will reduce your bottom line. Yet the drop satisfaction and subsequent hover and watch the pickup feeling is still the same.
                          Best of Luck.
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                          « Reply #35 on: December 18, 2008, 08:06:44 PM »
                          Some of squall's posts are just open invitations for completely off-topic rants that can still be justified in the context of the thread due to his ambiguity...
                          I was trying to dereference Null Pointers before it was cool.

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                          « Reply #36 on: December 18, 2008, 08:30:53 PM »
                          I think in that context you've performed admirally...

                          I just try my best to keep up.

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                            « Reply #37 on: December 26, 2008, 04:05:29 PM »
                            no you take advantage of it thats why your able to get away with it.
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