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Re: Trying to find my URL for one of my sites
« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2009, 06:23:01 PM »
bellsouth/at&t



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Re: Trying to find my URL for one of my sites
« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2009, 06:35:08 PM »
What is the domain name that was registered via a registrar? 

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Re: Trying to find my URL for one of my sites
« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2009, 06:40:02 PM »
I guess it's bellsouth.net
since what comes after the @ in our email address is bellsouth.net
and before the @ I put in my username I picked.



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Re: Trying to find my URL for one of my sites
« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2009, 07:08:44 PM »
I'm not sure how many websites exist now but How Many Websites are there on the Internet? says over 182 million. 

Now, surely you know that the majority of all websites do not use a URL with att.yahoo.etc in it.  They have their own, unique domain names.  How do you think computerhope.com got it's URL?  Is it attached to some other domain, such as att.yahoo.etc?  No, it's only preceded by www.  So, it's a URL in the standard format of a website with it's own domain name, and this means it was registered with a domain name registrar. 

So, once again:

Have you ever actually registered a domain name with a domain name registrar, so that you could have, for example, www.amy.com, not something you create under someone else's URL such as att.my.yahoo.com/ ?

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Re: Trying to find my URL for one of my sites
« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2009, 09:02:11 PM »
This makes it even more confusing. The url for my myspace site which I'm not paying for does have www in the address.
http://www.myspace.com/jttandryanfan

I'm trying to explain, yes my nephew and his dad set everything up for us when we switched from Earthlink dialup internet to Bellsouth DSL. It transferred all our things over to Bellsouth.  Bellsouth sent us the modem, router,  all that stuff. We have an IP address we had to enter in, all that stuff configure the server and everything, ftp, everything was setup. Yes, we registered when we called and signed up, we registered our user id's and passwords. We can also use outlook express to send and recieve emails too.
I'm sorry, I don't know how else to answer the questions. I'm trying as best as I know how. I also see and read that the reason people are leaving out things like www in the urls is so you don't have to type all that in when you go to a website.
For example, another site I use Webkinz which isn't free I can type in just Webkinz in the address bar, or www.webkinz.com and then login with username and password.
I've taken so many classes over the years in computer, my dad was a computer programmer too so that is how we got all setup with things. We learned about static and dynamic sites, everything in classes I've taken. Of course I know I don't remember every little details, I always have to go back over things again all through my whole life due to so many learning disabilities I have, and other health problems getting worse lately too and making everything in life really confusing to me. I've had to relearn so many things over the past year due to getting sick with Hep A, and still having a bit of problems from it.



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Re: Trying to find my URL for one of my sites
« Reply #20 on: July 23, 2009, 12:17:20 AM »
That was bad advice.  You can safely ignore it.
Right, it's not her website, in the true sense of what it means to have a website. It's just free web space where Yahoo allows her to throw in some personal content.  Anybody with a Yahoo account could do the same.

I didn't seriously intend for that to be taken as "advice"; it was a direct answer to the question "So, then which do I give people so they can view my website? Is all I'm trying to find out." Maybe I should have added "Of course you don't want to do this, because your "myYahoo!" pages are personal to you, not a public web site."

Coincidentally my own son (who is 31 too!) asked me how he could let his friends see his iGoogle home page that he had spent so much time crafting, and we came to the same conclusion, that it just isn't possible without them logging in as him, because a personalized home page is just that, personal to each user.
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Re: Trying to find my URL for one of my sites
« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2009, 03:36:16 AM »
This is hopeless.

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This makes it even more confusing. The url for my myspace site which I'm not paying for does have www in the address.
http://www.myspace.com/jttandryanfan
"www" has nothing to do with the domain name. www is actually considered a subdomain of the root domain, but never mind that for now. MySpace own that site, not you. They're just letting you have one page on it. You never actually registered your own domain - myspace.com, computerhope.com, facebook.com, webkinz.com are all domain names. You haven't got your own one.

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we came to the same conclusion, that it just isn't possible without them logging in as him, because a personalized home page is just that, personal to each user.
That is exactly it. Amy, it's your page, and your page only. You can't let anyone else see it unless they're sitting beside you at the computer.

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Re: Trying to find my URL for one of my sites
« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2009, 08:09:39 AM »
That is exactly it. Amy, it's your page, and your page only. You can't let anyone else see it unless they're sitting beside you at the computer.
kpac, are you absolutely sure about this?  I do not believe she would have to give someone her username and password just to view a page she has created.  Think about it.  Why have a web page that others can't view in normal way, by simply pointing their browser to a URL? 

I've used Yahoo GeoCities in the past for a personal web project.  To upload pages or edit pages online via the GeoCities control panel, I, of course, had to logon with my username and password. But, to allow someone else to view the pages, all I needed to do was give them the URL; I did not need to give them my username and password. 

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Re: Trying to find my URL for one of my sites
« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2009, 08:22:36 AM »
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I've used Yahoo GeoCities in the past for a personal web project.
I don't think she means Geocities.

I think she means this page, http://att.my.yahoo.com/, the way you can personalize it the way you want.

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Re: Trying to find my URL for one of my sites
« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2009, 08:40:09 AM »
I don't think she means Geocities.

I think she means this page, http://att.my.yahoo.com/, the way you can personalize it the way you want.
Even so, I doubt she has to give someone her username and password to view what she has created.  I believe many AT&T users have an email address which would be accessible via the same logon.  So, sharing username and password is a no-no.  And, surely, that's not necessary to share a personal web page she has created.

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Re: Trying to find my URL for one of my sites
« Reply #25 on: July 23, 2009, 10:30:36 AM »
surely, that's not necessary to share a personal web page she has created.

It's not a personal web page; it's a personalized home page, which is quite different.

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Re: Trying to find my URL for one of my sites
« Reply #26 on: July 23, 2009, 11:22:35 AM »
It's not a personal web page; it's a personalized home page, which is quite different.

We're talking about myspace.com, right? I just created a MySpace account but I'm not familiar with it yet.  Where would I go on the site to create a personalized home page?

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Re: Trying to find my URL for one of my sites
« Reply #27 on: July 23, 2009, 11:46:24 AM »
Thank you everyone for trying to help with this.
I guess if I have to I'll pay again to get a website.
Seems to work like Geocities, Angelfire, etc.. where you sign in and upload your stuff. Same as on my sister and brother-in-law's website I was working on for them too before having to quit www.astresurfacing.com
Here is what should help explain why it's made me so confused here, it's the same as this on Angelfire-
"Or get more with an Angelfire Elements subscription, starting at just $4.95/Month:
* No Ads & More Space
* Domain Name, POP/IMAP Email & Webmail toolsChoose a Plan"

Which I already have all that with Bellsouth.
Also, if I go to the tutorials and glossary they provide, here is some stuff that should explain why it is all confusing me.
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# Domain: a set of Internet addresses, such as for a web site or email. On the Web, a domain is the part after "www." such as "my-domain.com".
# Email domain: a set of Internet addresses, such as for a web site or email. In email addresses, a domain is the part after the "@", such as "my-domain.com".
# Extension: a file name suffix of the form .xxx, which indicates the file’s format so that users and applications can quickly recognize the type of file.
# Feed: an XML file used to deliver documents or other content using RSS.
# File transfer: the ability to send and receive files between computers.
# Image: a picture that someone has stored in an electronic form, such as files with .JPG, .BMP, or .GIF formats (among many others).
# Java applet: a program written in the Java programming language that can be included in an HTML page. When you view a page that contains an applet, the applet’s code is transferred to your system and executed by the browser.
# Upload: to transfer a file from your computer to a remote computer.
# URL: Universal Resource Locator; specifies the location of a file or web page, such as http://att.yahoo.com.
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Another thing that seems confusing, is I read things like this too about Homepages.
"Place a link to FunTrivia on your homepage, your blog, your work intranet, your myspace page, internet newsgroups, forums and anywhere else you can think of!"

Funtrivia is another site I have an account on and same as the other places out there you can pay too and get extra things and the ads off.




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Re: Trying to find my URL for one of my sites
« Reply #28 on: July 23, 2009, 12:03:02 PM »
Soybean- just noticed your post.
Thought I'd try and help. Have you logged in yet? After doing that, I just go over to things like edit profile and then under there you can also click on customize profile and use one of those themes, or sometimes I just go type in a search for myspace layouts and use just any generator and create it and paste the code it gives and it tells you where to paste it.
I still find it weird why they give us so much as they do give us to do for free. But I guess I wont complain since it's free. Like adding the music to our pages seems a bit weird why they let us do stuff like that. But then I guess they feel it helps promote the artists music somehow since they figure we give all our friends the url for our pages so then they see the music you enjoy.



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Re: Trying to find my URL for one of my sites
« Reply #29 on: July 23, 2009, 12:18:08 PM »
It's not a personal web page; it's a personalized home page, which is quite different.

I think I get the gist of creating your unique MySpace URL, and sharing it does NOT require giving anyone your username and password.  Near the top of the initial myspace page, after logging on, I see a link for "Pick your MySpace URL!"  If I click it, the next page allows me to create my unique MySpace URL.  On that page, it says, "Think of your MySpace URL as your "address on the Internet" -- You can give your URL to anyone so they can find you on MySpace."  I did not go through with that procedure yet but I think it's pretty clear that, once this URL this unique MySpace URL created, it can be shared my merely telling other people about it.  Giving out username and password is not required.