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How many songs do you have in your music library?

None
14 (8.2%)
1 to 500
58 (33.9%)
501 to 1,000
18 (10.5%)
1,001 to 2,000
23 (13.5%)
2,001 to 5,000
14 (8.2%)
5,001 to 10,000
22 (12.9%)
10,001 to 20,000
17 (9.9%)
20,001 to 30,000
2 (1.2%)
30,001 to 50,000
0 (0%)
Over 50,001
3 (1.8%)

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Re: December monthly poll
« Reply #30 on: December 17, 2008, 04:36:06 AM »
Winamp says 8771...... Thats 22 Days, 2 hours, 37 minutes and 6 seconds in 38.40GB

Kind of a huge collection I never really utilize though ;D

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    Re: December monthly poll
    « Reply #31 on: December 18, 2008, 08:10:46 AM »
    I think it would have been good to add a
    10,000 to 20,000 songs
    category, and then an
    over 20,000 songs
    group. There are probably a few people with more than 50,000.

    At some level, a person goes over what he can spend the time listening to—ever—and what he can spend the time nicely cataloguing, especially removing the unwanted tracks from albums.  :P

    Not to mention that by the time a person ever really got on top of an extra-monstrous collection, enough years would have passed that his taste in music would likely have changed.   ;D

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    Re: December monthly poll
    « Reply #32 on: December 18, 2008, 11:12:37 AM »
    I think it would have been good to add a
    10,000 to 20,000 songs
    category, and then an
    over 20,000 songs
    group. There are probably a few people with more than 50,000.

    At some level, a person goes over what he can spend the time listening to—ever—and what he can spend the time nicely cataloguing, especially removing the unwanted tracks from albums.  :P

    Not to mention that by the time a person ever really got on top of an extra-monstrous collection, enough years would have passed that his taste in music would likely have changed.   ;D

    Taste in music never changes; only a persons tendency to gravitate towards trends...
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      Re: December monthly poll
      « Reply #33 on: December 18, 2008, 11:52:22 AM »
      Taste changes. At least two elements I've noticed:

      — Simple verbal messages become less interesting. If a love song's lyrics are, say, vindictive (Nat King Cole's Dance, Ballerina, and hundreds more) or vacuous (staying with Nat King Cole, The Sand and the Sea), then tolerance diminishes with time. Of course, the really extreme lyrics of many wild and crazy songs (Louie Louie) are cherished forever.

      — Basic "dance stomp" rhythm is maybe less in synch with quieter testosterone levels. The gut-kickstart music we enjoyed in fast cars when we were 17 is a cool memory, but a less desirable companion, when we are 60.

      Teenagers like exuberance. Youth is all about abundant energy—as biologists surmise, extra energy that would support a family, or impress a would-be mate that there is enough to go around and more. All of that is in our music. I don't think music is trendy; not in the way that, say, clothing fashions are trendy. Music is more of a blood-consciousness, or spirit- or soul-consciousness. In downtown Vancouver, there is a street guitarist whose Stairway to Heaven has haunted Granville Street for years and years. He could play anything, but he plays Stairway to Heaven—slowly, repeatedly, as though forever: and it becomes the consciousness of the street.

      But our tastes change. The memories remain, and the whimsies and the desires. I still love to listen to live blues, but I don't do it nearly as often. And now silence is one of my favourite musical genres. No, I would not listen to the Everly Brothers sing 'Bye, 'Bye, Love a few hundred times. It's not a trend. I'd just be bored.

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      Re: December monthly poll
      « Reply #34 on: December 18, 2008, 12:09:38 PM »
      I still listen to the same music I did 10 years ago; just more often now, even.

      But ten years isn't quite enough to waive your point.

      So really; it's a matter of scale. "tolerance dimishes with time" for example; how much time are we talking here? If it's more then ten years (my guess is 40-50?) then I obviously have no counter for it. Although I have to say, I've listened to Queen's Headlong over 4 thousand times, and I have yet to get tired of it.

      But I guess it's just a matter of time  ;D
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      Re: December monthly poll
      « Reply #35 on: December 18, 2008, 12:15:20 PM »
      If you think music is not a trend, just look at MTV. I very much doubt that the R&B, rap and kiddie-pop they play on there is in tune with anyone's emotions. If it is, we've got a whole generation of psychologically very messed up kiddies. Well, you know, you might have a point!

      I'm sure they could make those kids listen to car engine sounds and still be certain of a large audience. A lot of music is profit driven. Artists mend their ways to be more in accordance with the current spirit of times (IE: Dolly Parton going from country to pop in the 80's) otherwise they'll lose out on record deals because some other sucker will gladly do it for them.

      The only real music 'taste' that exists is that of the individual who bothers to look into what there is to offer and constantly broadens his/her horizon. Not someone who listens to the radio all day or goes to a club to hear the latest remixed songs. To the latter, his or her 'taste' will change according to every whim and fart the record companies produce. They spoon feed it to the masses because of a lack of individuality on many a listener's side.

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      No, I would not listen to the Everly Brothers sing 'Bye, 'Bye, Love a few hundred times. It's not a trend. I'd just be bored.

      So you're bored of all Country, Rockabilly and Rock & Roll songs? You see, 'taste' is not defined by a single song along. It is defined by what kind of genre and sounds you can tolerate and enjoy.





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      Re: December monthly poll
      « Reply #36 on: December 18, 2008, 12:21:22 PM »
      that's the type of thing I was trying to think of.

      Amen.
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        Re: December monthly poll
        « Reply #37 on: December 18, 2008, 01:11:23 PM »
        Hi, Raptor,

        No, I was talking about music. The music industry is an industry, and what you say applies to the music industry. I was talking about music.

        In other words, keeping in line with your thoughts about individualism, my opinion is that those people who enjoy music as individuals are likely to find their preferences changing over a course of years.

        Like lots of things. I sat in a café with a long-time friend a few years ago, and we watched a really fantastic car go prowling down the street. "You know," my friend said, "not so many years ago, I'd have given anything to OWN that car, or one with that much charisma. But now I find myself actually preferring to not own it, and just to just watch it drive by."

        I think we call it "getting older". It is just as much fun. But it is different. At first we say, "Well, I don't listen to that as much as I used to." That's all.

        When you're 30, parties are a lot of fun. Maybe you'll meet someone. And certainly you'll be in some lively conversation, and you might be repeating parts of it to your friends next week.

        But at 50 or 60, these things have largely been said and heard, and it really doesn't matter what Julie said or what John thought. It's all right, but it means less because you've been there and done that—a hundred times or a thousand times. So you move on.

        Different music speaks to us. I guess it must have been 30 years ago that I gave up TV, because I didn't like endlessly hearing the hegemony any more. I didn't even know the word "hegemony" then! But I was responding to a new taste—which was a distaste—for what I was hearing. As you said, the industry was certainly right there. I was learning all about the oligarchy I lived in, without knowing that word either.

        I loved music. Mine went from TV to radio to computer, with advertising disappearing along the way. My computer systems show very, very few advertisements. I don't have flash or any messenger/chat services. The computer is just a world library for me, with very little motion. (My systems are the diametrical opposite of, for example, MSN. And my news source is Aljazeera.)

        But you are right in suggesting that the music of our culture might be infused with hegemonic marketing values—it definitely is. I used to enjoy watching Friends when I saw TV—but with time I just saw, more and more, the insidious values: "Here are your beliefs for today." "This is good and this is bad." "Think like the cool guy." "Look like the pretty girl." So television melted away, eventually becoming pretty loathsome.

        Leonard Cohen, Gordon Lightfoot, Paul Simon—they all lived within the giant industrial machinery. And yet, they were/are artists too. "Nothing you can say is not ultimately subversive—even 'good morning' carries the intention of influencing the way others think."

        What surprises me, really, is that I have not gravitated more toward so-called classical music. I enjoy it as much (and as little) as I ever did. I suppose I still enjoy the same musical genres, but that's hard to say because I have always loved so much music, of so many genres.

        Trends; no. I distrusted trends when I was probably about 10. I think I was born iconoclastic. I love individuals, even when I disagree with them. In music, you are with multitudes of other people, and you are also alone. It depends on the music, and it depends on you. I have often wondered about the man playing Stairway to Heaven on the sidewalk in the city core. It is exquisitely beautiful. He's played it there for years. I've talked with him sometimes, but he is as tough and remote as the sidewalk. He doesn't seem to play the guitar. He just sits there, a rough-looking character; tough as nails. The music just drips from his guitar-strings, like rain falls from the sky.

        The music industry tried to own the music. But nobody owns music. Music is like a girl. You can play music, and you can sing music, and you can listen to music, and you can love music.

        But you can never own music. Music owns you.

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        Re: December monthly poll
        « Reply #38 on: December 18, 2008, 01:41:54 PM »
        Au contrare'...the Music Industry DOES own music......
        Show me anything good off of the current Rolling Stone charts or (insert your source here) that involves true talent.

        Take your time.
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        Re: December monthly poll
        « Reply #39 on: December 18, 2008, 02:55:22 PM »
        There's only one thing I can say, really; I'll get back to you on that in 50 years.

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        Re: December monthly poll
        « Reply #40 on: December 18, 2008, 04:59:46 PM »
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        I think it would have been good to add a
        10,000 to 20,000 songs
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        over 20,000 songs
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        Done. Users who've already voted can change your vote.
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        Re: December monthly poll
        « Reply #41 on: December 18, 2008, 07:13:07 PM »
        nooo now im not the last one anymore *crys and downloads more music lol

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        Re: December monthly poll
        « Reply #42 on: December 18, 2008, 08:45:03 PM »
        If you've never listened to about an hour of Hank Williams Sr. then you haven't lived at all...
        Just another example.
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        Re: December monthly poll
        « Reply #43 on: December 19, 2008, 03:01:42 AM »
        Au contrare'...the Music Industry DOES own music......
        Show me anything good off of the current Rolling Stone charts or (insert your source here) that involves true talent.

        Take your time.
        I don't know about anyone else, but I've always been quite partial to The Smiths, Franz Ferdinand, and Cat Power.  I personally think they've got some talent and they're all on Rolling Stone.  I'm currently going over the Top 100 Singles of 2008 and there's actually some good stuff on here.  Yes, most of it is pure crap, but there are at least ten good bands/artists on the list.  And I'm quite surprised to see The Black Keys, Vampire Weekend, The Rapture, Kings of Leon, and White Denim on the list...it's not really the kind of music I expect to see getting media coverage.  I guess I'm a bit sheltered when it comes to the mainstream music world.  About 20% of the music I listen to was recorded on a 4-track in someone's garage, so I find it odd that some of the indie music I listen to would be in a popular music magazine.  Of course, people have been saying that indie is becoming the new mainstream; I hope it's just a fluke.

        If you've never listened to about an hour of Hank Williams Sr. then you haven't lived at all...
        Just another example.
        Not my cup o' tea.  I did like listening to his grandson for awhile, though, but it eventually got old.  It's the type of music I can only enjoy the first few times, then it loses his charm.  Ooh, but Waylon Jennings' son Mason is fantastic.  This is almost related to your comment...
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        Re: December monthly poll
        « Reply #44 on: December 19, 2008, 10:26:05 AM »
        I've never grown tired of Queen Or Skynyrd... Like I say, I could listen to almost any of their songs over and over and over and over and over and I think you get the point *over*.
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